Why is BP taking all the blame?

Dixie said:
Compared to 60-FUCKING-MILLION gallons and RISING! So far, everything you have posted is not even in the same realistic ballpark! Nevertheless, the RESPONSE was almost immediate, and the cleanup began before anyone started pointing fingers or casting blame. Let's be clear, fuckwit, no one is mad at Obama because oil is spewing into the gulf at a rate of a million gallons per day, they are mad because he still hasn't done anything but TALK! In the words of James Carville... WE NEED SOME ACTION NOW, WE'RE DYING DOWN HERE!

Why has he not mobilized FEMA????
Why has he not lifted the Jones Act???
Why has he not suspended EPA red tape???
Why has he not declared a Federal disaster???
Why don't we have the booms???
Why aren't the Dutch and Saudis being consulted???

WHEN IS ANY OF THIS GOING TO START HAPPENING????
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS PRESIDENT TO ACT???
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What about the Amoco Cadiz? 1.6 million barrels of oil was dumped into the English Channel off the coast of Brittany. I doubt that anybody in the US has even heard of it.

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tom prendergast said:
What about the Amoco Cadiz? 1.6 million barrels of oil was dumped into the English Channel off the coast of Brittany. I doubt that anybody in the US has even heard of it.

Amoco Cadiz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Get over yourself Tom. No matter how loud you rail, or how much of a tizzy fit you have, we aren't getting the same anti-Brit rhetoric they are feeding to you in your press and saying it's coming from us.

At this point we couldn't care less about Britain and only mention it because it happens to be the first part of the company name that is behind this disaster.

You are running yourself ragged trying to make this a Britain vs USA thing and it's now just pathetic.

Go take a valium and chill out.
 
tom prendergast said:
What about the Amoco Cadiz? 1.6 million barrels of oil was dumped into the English Channel off the coast of Brittany. I doubt that anybody in the US has even heard of it.

Amoco Cadiz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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What part of 1.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY are you not understanding about this disaster? Look... I can save all you pinheads some time scouring Wikipedia for "similar" examples... THERE ARE NONE! So let's just stop this silliness! Okay?
 
Dixie said:
What part of 1.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY are you not understanding about this disaster? Look... I can save all you pinheads some time scouring Wikipedia for "similar" examples... THERE ARE NONE! So let's just stop this silliness! Okay?
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Dont forget about what naturally seeps into the oceans....

Ohh, and about how Europe can fit into Texas!
 
Smarter Than All Y'All said:
The drill baby drill converts to environmentalism couldn't think of a way to pin that one on Obama.
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What is most astonishing to me in all this, is how the left apparently thought conservatives were non-environmental because they want to drill for domestic oil! The word Conservative has "conservation" in its root! Most of us are avid conservationists, we are hunters and fishermen, and outdoor sportsmen... We don't spend Saturday mornings sipping a latte at Starbucks, blogging on our left wing websites!

One of the huge political miscalculations the left is going to make, is to believe the right is not concerned with the environment. All thinking conservatives would do well to just tune you out until November, let you bury yourself with this sort of rhetoric, then after you get your clocks cleaned, maybe we can move forward.
 
Dixie said:
What part of 1.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY are you not understanding about this disaster? Look... I can save all you pinheads some time scouring Wikipedia for "similar" examples... THERE ARE NONE! So let's just stop this silliness! Okay?
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Like it would matter even if there were. This is happening now; its magnitude has never before happened.

Tom began this thread bemoaning the imaginary ghost "why is BP taking all the blame" and falsely claiming that American's are blaming the British!

BP is liable...period; it was their company, their drill operation. That does not mean that anyone who aided in BP's cutting corners is not liable as well.
 
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Ice Dancer said:
Like it would matter even if there were. This is happening now; its magnitude has never before happened.

Tom began this thread bemoaning the imaginary ghost "why is BP taking all the blame" and falsely claiming that American's are blaming the British!

BP is libable...period; it was their company, their drill operation. That does not mean that anyone who aided in BP's cutting corners is not liable as well.
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Well you have to cut Tom some slack, he is British, and most Brits have pensions heavily dependent on BP stock. This is why someone who has fully supported every pinhead idea ever proposed here, is now taking on his own monster over their demonizing of BP. It illustrates how pinhead principles always take a backseat to the pinhead's own bacon.
 
Dixie said:
What part of 1.7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY are you not understanding about this disaster? Look... I can save all you pinheads some time scouring Wikipedia for "similar" examples... THERE ARE NONE! So let's just stop this silliness! Okay?
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1.6 million barrels was dumped into the sea from the Amoco Cadiz all at once, whereas the Gulf oil spill was leaking around 50,000 barrels a day but has now been reduced to less than 20,000 per day. The Persian Gulf oil spill of 1991 resulted in 11,000,000 barrels being released to the environment. A barrel is equivalent to 42 US gallons.
 
Dixie said:
Well you have to cut Tom some slack, he is British, and most Brits have pensions heavily dependent on BP stock. This is why someone who has fully supported every pinhead idea ever proposed here, is now taking on his own monster over their demonizing of BP. It illustrates how pinhead principles always take a backseat to the pinhead's own bacon.
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Agreed that the monster has come back to bite socialist ideologues; many of whom love to make money off of capitalism all the while trying to make it out to be evil. I don't even have a problem with Tom bemoaning the focused attack that the Obama admin is doing to BP, in order to scapegoat them, to cover their own malfeasance in this disaster. It's his false hysteria that American's are blaming "the" British that I am addressing.
 
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Smarter Than All Y'All said:
Pipelines under the Guadalupe Oil Field in California's San Luis Obispo County leaked diluent, which is a petroleum product used to facilitate oil extraction for decades before a Unocal employee reported it in 1994.

Chronic, long-term leaks are more common and less noticeable than large, sudden releases and acute exposure to spilled chemicals, and they don't get attention from politically-motivated drill baby drill converts to environmentalism desperate to cover their tracks.

The actual amount of diluent released into the environment at Guadalupe will never be known, but estimates put it at somewhere between 8.5 and 20 million gallons.

Apparently that amount didn't exceed Dix's Outrage Threshold.
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lol...didn't get yours eithers...you were told this by your left wing blog sites, you didn't know about this until you were told about it from left wingers...

nice try
 
Dixie said:
What is most astonishing to me in all this, is how the left apparently thought conservatives were non-environmental because they want to drill for domestic oil! The word Conservative has "conservation" in its root! Most of us are avid conservationists, we are hunters and fishermen, and outdoor sportsmen... We don't spend Saturday mornings sipping a latte at Starbucks, blogging on our left wing websites!

One of the huge political miscalculations the left is going to make, is to believe the right is not concerned with the environment. All thinking conservatives would do well to just tune you out until November, let you bury yourself with this sort of rhetoric, then after you get your clocks cleaned, maybe we can move forward.
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most conservatives are still for drilling....in fact, so is OBAMA and other liberals, even on this site....but don't expect the uber libtards here to admit it...oh no, its only republicans
 
Dixie said:
Well you have to cut Tom some slack, he is British, and most Brits have pensions heavily dependent on BP stock. This is why someone who has fully supported every pinhead idea ever proposed here, is now taking on his own monster over their demonizing of BP. It illustrates how pinhead principles always take a backseat to the pinhead's own bacon.
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To deny the anti-British rhetoric on display both here and elsewhere is just incredible, if you think this is some kind of delusion on my part then you obviously don't read any of the British media. What we most object to is the vicious castigating of one company whilst ignoring all the others, you said yourself that it will probably lead to much greater regulation and maybe the ending of offshore drilling. That's up to the American people but they should know what the consequences of that are likely to be. I also find the sudden conversion of so many neo-cons to eco-cons quite incredible, most live either in landlocked or west coast states so why the fuck they even care is totally beyond me.
 
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Smarter Than All Y'All said:
Would it be impolite to point out that "Conservative" also has "con" in it?
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CON is not a word, it is a preposition. The only way it can apply to Conservative, is through it's prepositional meaning; "to con-serve." Did you have a point, or did you just want to show us your illiteracy?

BTW, I am a Republican appalled by the hypocrisy of the teabagtards who were all for drill baby drill until 4/20/10.
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You're not republican, you are a liar, just like most other Liberals. And OH BY THE WAY, the people who coined the phrase "Drill, Baby, Drill!" are still ALL FOR IT! Not a damn thing has changed with regard to our opinions about drilling for domestic oil! If anything, this disaster illustrates the need for more drilling in remote areas, where the economic impact of such disasters is minimal by comparison. The Southern Gulf Coast is ruined for years! All the fishing, all the tourism, all the restaurants, hotels, businesses related to tourism... all ruined by this. And NOTHING continues to be the response from President Barrack Obama and the Federal Government!

You can run around repeating "Drill Baby Drill" from now until November, but it's not going to save you on this, you are preaching to your own stupid masses. Obama should have acted swiftly to mobilize FEMA and declare a national disaster, but he didn't take this seriously... he partied! People are going to remember THAT in November. The regulators from the Federal Government FAILED to do their jobs! This was not a matter of not having sufficient regulation or oversight, it was Federal Authority demonstrating how inept it is in doing even the most simple of tasks! So you go right ahead down this delusional path of trying to politicize this disaster and spin it in favor of liberalism, and I'll watch while you get your ass handed to you in November!

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tom prendergast said:
To deny the anti-British rhetoric on display both here and elsewhere is just incredible, if you think this is some kind of delusion on my part then you obviously don't read any of the British media. What we most object to is the vicious castigating of one company whilst ignoring all the others, you said yourself that it will probably lead to much greater regulation and maybe the ending of offshore drilling. That's up to the American people but they should know what the consequences of that are likely to be. I also find the sudden conversion of so many neo-cons to eco-cons quite incredible, most live either in landlocked or west coast states so why the fuck they even care is totally beyond me.
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We are not obligated to read the British media's spin on a phantom attack of Britain. Topspins stupidity does not equate to anti British sentiment. Though I remember many threads by Low showing topspin style stupidity directed at American’s

BP ran the show of their drill! They made the decisions, they cut the corners. Right now they are the face of the disaster. When the investigation is finished and other entities and or individuals can be shown as liable, they to will bear their share of responsibility.

The Gulf is part of our nation, don't be such a ninny! I already showed you in part how our nation is affected economically.

You do not have to be a rabid environmentalist to have a negative view of the damage done. Supporting drilling does not equate to supporting companies who cut corners or the officials who aid them in doing so.

Your intellectual dishonesty is showing again.
 
Ice Dancer said:
I was one of the "most" vocal here? BS, I was as vocal as any proponent of domestic drilling...period. But even if I were, That does not equal- I support a company cutting corners on safety or government officials allowing them to do so.

This is happening in my country. This is the topic under discussion. Your constant attempts to distract with the "it's happening here and here and here" as a valid argument is silly!
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So if it happened off the Canadian West Coast you wouldn't give a shit because it is not in your country, despite it being a damn sight nearer than the Gulf of Mexico.
 
tom prendergast said:
To deny the anti-British rhetoric on display both here and elsewhere is just incredible, if you think this is some kind of delusion on my part then you obviously don't read any of the British media. What we most object to is the vicious castigating of one company whilst ignoring all the others, you said yourself that it will probably lead to much greater regulation and maybe the ending of offshore drilling. That's up to the American people but they should know what the consequences of that are likely to be. I also find the sudden conversion of so many neo-cons to eco-cons quite incredible, most live either in landlocked or west coast states so why the fuck they even care is totally beyond me.
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We don't read the British media. That's kind of like signing up to get your head bashed in voluntarily. Just doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
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