Why is BP taking all the blame?

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That's it Tom, ignore the facts that show you were being an idiot when dismissing domestic concerns that citizens have from other regions in our country. And do this by ignoring the question I posed about your own country...

You were ones of the ones who last year was the most vocal about drilling anywhere and everywhere, so it's a bit rich for you to now bitch about the consequences of deepwater drilling. We have had many oil spills and accidents in UK waters, so we know all about it thanks.

 

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Yes, only after I pointed out that he was wrong did he say that he was exaggerating.

So you are suggesting that he's lying about it being hyperbole?

You know Tom, perhaps if you didn't have such a tiny lil' pin-head the subtle usage of speech might not need so much clarification...and yes, I could "tell" he was purposefully exaggerating without asking him.

 

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So you are suggesting that he's lying about it being hyperbole?

You know Tom, perhaps if you didn't have such a tiny lil' pin-head the subtle usage of speech might not need so much clarification...and yes, I could "tell" he was purposefully exaggerating without asking him.

I can see this is fantastically important to you, so I'll let you have the last word.

 

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You were ones of the ones who last year was the most vocal about drilling anywhere and everywhere, so it's a bit rich for you to now bitch about the consequences of deepwater drilling. We have had many oil spills and accidents in UK waters, so we know all about it thanks.

First of all that's BS about my being the "most" vocal about deep-water drilling! I supported domestic drilling period! Further, it is becoming more and more apparent that specific safety standards were not followed.

As to "bitching" about this I have hardly done so. I do however take a defensive stand against a boorish dolt who spouts that not living in the region is akin to not being affected by the disaster...

I do not like the fact that our president uses BP as the scapegoat to deflect his administrations own failings in the lead up to and after math of this disaster. That has been most of the extent of my "bitching". You on the other hand whine about something that most American's have not even done: to blame the British!

Now that you understand some of the ways all American's are economically affected, understand that we as a nation are emotionally affected by what has befallen our countrymen in the Gulf...would you not be just as much so?

As to your own domestic spills? WTF does that have to do with what we are dealing with NOW?

 

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I can see this is fantastically important to you, so I'll let you have the last word.

Smartest thing you've managed all day.

 

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I wonder how "outraged" these newly-minted environmentalsts on the right would've been had a similiar accident occurred 2 years ago.

Where are your posts blaming the president for this one?

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For that matter, can you show how you howled with righteous indignation when this happened?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/25/news/companies/SCOTUS_exxon/index.htm?cnn=yes

 

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I wonder how "outraged" these newly-minted environmentalsts on the right would've been had a similiar accident occurred 2 years ago.

Where are your posts blaming the president for this one?

2008 New Orleans oil spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These eco-cons are an amazing new phenomenon, last year there was thread after thread urging that the drilling bans be lifted. I don't remember any of them expressing much concern over potential oil spills, yet now they all seem to have turned into rabid environmentalists.

 

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I wonder how "outraged" these newly-minted environmentalsts on the right would've been had a similiar accident occurred 2 years ago.

Where are your posts blaming the president for this one?

2008 New Orleans oil spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Really? I mean, you are REALLY going to try and compare a thimble full of oil to what amounts to an Exxon Valdez every 5 days? 460k gallons of oil are "similar" to 60,000,000 gallons of oil, HOW exactly???

The Great Oil Spill of 2008 was obviously handled so well that no one even heard about it! In fact, reading your link, it appears someone was immediately on top of things, because clean up and containment efforts began the next day, the booms were in place within less than 18 hrs.. Currently, we are still waiting for THIS president to do something besides hold meetings and blame BP.

 

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The comparative amount of oil spilled is what triggered this remarkable mass conversion that made rabid enviro-warriors out of the drill baby drill crowd overnight?

Now I get it!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060731-lebanon-oil.html

 

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Really? I mean, you are REALLY going to try and compare a thimble full of oil to what amounts to an Exxon Valdez every 5 days? 460k gallons of oil are "similar" to 60,000,000 gallons of oil, HOW exactly???

The Great Oil Spill of 2008 was obviously handled so well that no one even heard about it! In fact, reading your link, it appears someone was immediately on top of things, because clean up and containment efforts began the next day, the booms were in place within less than 18 hrs.. Currently, we are still waiting for THIS president to do something besides hold meetings and blame BP.

Great job Dix! There ya go sucking all the wind from the sail of troll who's only use seems to be for posters like Tom using it to spring-board a fallacious rant from.

 

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You were ones of the ones who last year was the most vocal about drilling anywhere and everywhere, so it's a bit rich for you to now bitch about the consequences of deepwater drilling. We have had many oil spills and accidents in UK waters, so we know all about it thanks.

Tom it's shitty brit petro spilling not the responsible American companies.

 

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Great job Dix! There ya go sucking all the wind from the sail of troll who's only use seems to be for posters like Tom using it to spring-board a fallacious rant from.

If you weren't so determined to pick a fight and throw your rubbish over the fence, you might realise that myself and Dixie are mostly in agreement. I must say that this latter day eco-warrior persona of yours is most mystifying.

 

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Tom it's shitty brit petro spilling not the responsible American companies.

Well as least the Okie from Myskogie has let the cat out of the bag.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE"]YouTube- Americans are NOT stupid - WITH SUBTITLES[/ame]

 

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If you weren't so determined to pick a fight and throw your rubbish over the fence, you might realise that myself and Dixie are mostly in agreement. I must say that this latter day eco-warrior persona of yours is most mystifying.

Eco warrier? You are sucha petty drama queen. One does not have to be an eco warrior to note the enviromental damage done by BP. One does not have to an eco warrior to face the facts that both greed (BP execs) and corrupt government officials, have consprerd to cause the greatest industrial disaster to date. Your hypocrisy is what should be looked at under a magnifying glass Tom.

 

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If you weren't so determined to pick a fight and throw your rubbish over the fence, you might realise that myself and Dixie are mostly in agreement. I must say that this latter day eco-warrior persona of yours is most mystifying.

Eco warrior? You are such a petty drama queen. One does not have to be an eco warrior to note the enviromental damage done by BP. One does not have to be an eco warrior to face the facts that both greed (BP execs) and corrupt government officials, have conspired to cause the greatest industrial disaster to date. Your hypocrisy is what should be looked at under a magnifying glass Tom.

 

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Hypocrites won't pay a penny more for petrol to fund safety initiatives or spill-mitigation mechanisms.

They expect the oil company to assume all the risk, forfeit their profits, and underwrite a limitless compensation program - so long as the oil company in question is British.....

Occidental got off scot free from the Piper Alpha disaster, Union Carbide paid derisory compensation for Bhopal, Exxon took over 20 years to pay for the Exxon Valdez but these eco-cons want BP to pony up unlimited compensation. Anadarko, BP's partner has refused to pay any compensation as have Transocean, indeed Anadarko has just paid out a dividend.

The very same people who were shrieking that they should drill anywhere and everywhere last year have turned into greens, what a bunch of fucking hypocrites!

 

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Dec. 7, 2004, Unalaska, Aleutian Islands, Alaska: A major storm pushed the M/V Selendang Ayu up onto a rocky shore, breaking it in two. 337,000 gallons of oil were released, most of which was driven onto the shoreline of Makushin and Skan Bays.

Aug.-Sept. 2005, New Orleans, Louisiana: The US Coast Guard estimates that more than 7 million gallons of oil were spilled during Hurricane Katrina from pipelines, storage tanks and industrial plants.

June 19, 2006, Calcasieu River, Louisiana: 71,000 barrels of oil were released from a tank at the CITGO Refinery on the Calcasieu River during a violent rain storm.

July 25, 2008, New Orleans, Louisiana: A 61-foot barge, carrying 419,000 gallons of oil collides with a 600-foot tanker in the Mississippi River near New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands of gallons leak from the barge, causing a halt to all river traffic while cleanup efforts commence to limit the environmental fallout on local wildlife.

Jan. 23, 2010, Port Arthur, Texas: The oil tanker Eagle Otome and a barge collide in the Sabine-Neches Waterway, causing the release of 462,000 gallons of crude oil.

No doubt Dixie can provide links to his posts reacting to these spills....

Compared to 60-FUCKING-MILLION gallons and RISING! So far, everything you have posted is not even in the same realistic ballpark! Nevertheless, the RESPONSE was almost immediate, and the cleanup began before anyone started pointing fingers or casting blame. Let's be clear, fuckwit, no one is mad at Obama because oil is spewing into the gulf at a rate of a million gallons per day, they are mad because he still hasn't done anything but TALK! In the words of James Carville... WE NEED SOME ACTION NOW, WE'RE DYING DOWN HERE!

Why has he not mobilized FEMA????
Why has he not lifted the Jones Act???
Why has he not suspended EPA red tape???
Why has he not declared a Federal disaster???
Why don't we have the booms???
Why aren't the Dutch and Saudis being consulted???

WHEN IS ANY OF THIS GOING TO START HAPPENING????
WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS PRESIDENT TO ACT???

 

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Eco warrior? You are sucha petty drama queen. One does not have to be an eco warrior to note the enviromental damage done by BP. One does not have to an eco warrior to face the facts that both greed (BP execs) and corrupt government officials, have consprerd to cause the greatest industrial disaster to date. Your hypocrisy is what should be looked at under a magnifying glass Tom.

You were one of the most vocal on here calling for unlimited drilling, I don't remember you having any concerns then? You are also truly myopic as well, as Bhopal is a million times worse than this and is still ongoing. Obviously pelicans are more important to you than poor Indians.

 

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You were one of the most vocal on here calling for unlimited drilling, I don't remember you having any concerns then? You are also truly myopic as well, as Bhopal is a million times worse than this and is still ongoing.

I was one of the "most" vocal here? BS, I was as vocal as any proponent of domestic drilling...period. But even if I were, That does not equal- I support a company cutting corners on safety or government officials allowing them to do so.

This is happening in my country. This is the topic under discussion. Your constant attempts to distract with the "it's happening here and here and here" as a valid argument is silly!