These Parents Are Willing to Pay Up to $15,000 to Get Their Kids Into High School
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T. A. Gardner
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Regardless, the end result is what I describe. Mediocrity is promoted beyond its level of competence by corruption and bribery in effect.
The public school was the best funded school district in Texas. We had a. Phd. teaching our Chemistry classes. We had a Phd. Teaching Biology also. He said our equipment was better than the Chemistry lab at Rice. Our town had 4 or 5 major Petrochemical plants in our school district.
cawacko
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I’m not saying you can’t hold that view, but to me it’s very cynical. You can go to jail for bribing people. This is about paying for help to navigate the process.
One can say it's like SAT courses, private sports lessons and other things people with money do to help their kids and that it's not fair some have more money than others. At the same time, most of these people competing for admissions to these uber expensive elite schools have money.
T. A. Gardner
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Rich celebrities have gone to jail for doing this.
Varsity Blues scandal - Wikipedia
Lori Loughlin divorce: Husband blames her for college admissions scandal
Mossimo Giannulli reportedly couldn’t overcome his belief that Loughlin was ‘driving that bus’ in getting their daughters fraudulently admitted to USC.
www.mercurynews.com
Celebrities and the Rich were paying colleges to do things like give their kids admission to sports programs they never participated in, had others taking SAT tests for the kids to get the appropriate scores, and the like. They weren't simply rich and doing things like having their kids tutored and such, but actively seeking fraudulent means and bribery to get their kids in.
cawacko
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The “Varsity Blues” cases were outright fraud and bribery. People were falsifying records, faking athletic credentials, and paying off school officials. That was also about college, not high school.Rich celebrities have gone to jail for doing this.
Varsity Blues scandal - Wikipedia
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Lori Loughlin divorce: Husband blames her for college admissions scandal
Mossimo Giannulli reportedly couldn’t overcome his belief that Loughlin was ‘driving that bus’ in getting their daughters fraudulently admitted to USC.
Celebrities and the Rich were paying colleges to do things like give their kids admission to sports programs they never participated in, had others taking SAT tests for the kids to get the appropriate scores, and the like. They weren't simply rich and doing things like having their kids tutored and such, but actively seeking fraudulent means and bribery to get their kids in.
What we’re talking about here is totally different. Hiring a consultant to help with high school applications is legal and not totally uncommon in a small number of cities.
Nothing personal, but I don’t know “cawacko,” I know I’m cynical, but you seem incredibly naive
cawacko
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You’re in the Phoenix area, right? I was looking up top private schools.Rich celebrities have gone to jail for doing this.
Varsity Blues scandal - Wikipedia
Lori Loughlin divorce: Husband blames her for college admissions scandal
Mossimo Giannulli reportedly couldn’t overcome his belief that Loughlin was ‘driving that bus’ in getting their daughters fraudulently admitted to USC.
Celebrities and the Rich were paying colleges to do things like give their kids admission to sports programs they never participated in, had others taking SAT tests for the kids to get the appropriate scores, and the like. They weren't simply rich and doing things like having their kids tutored and such, but actively seeking fraudulent means and bribery to get their kids in.
Phoenix Country Day is $35K, Brophy Prep is $18K, Xavier Prep is $23K, Arizona Cultural Academy is $13K, Bella Vista is $18K, Rancho Solano is $26K, and Paradise Valley is $16K.
No wonder so many Californians move there. I’m guessing there isn’t much of a market for consultants at those prices. You usually see that when schools cost much more.
cawacko
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Naive how? You’re essentially arguing the whole private school ecosystem in these major cities is corrupt and consultants like the folks in the article are just openly flaunting the law.
While you are at it, you can pay $6k to coach your daughter into a sorority.
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And there is a logical reason for it. These schools are looking to educate the next generation of successful people. Being successful is partly being smart, but it also having family connections. These schools want a mix of the smartest people, and the best family connections.
You are paying the consultant to explain all this to you. That is where the $15k is going.
Can a $6,000 coach get you into your dream sorority?
At the start of her sophomore year at Florida State University, Kasey Hines felt increasingly dejected. During “rush,” a one-to-two-week gantlet of events and conversations for potential new sorority sisters, she fell into depression. Hines had always imagined Greek life as part of the...
The ability to pay tuition promotes what you call mediocrity. A reminder, almost none of these students have earned their tuition payments. It was just given to them. Because the schools give preferential treatment to students who can pay their tuition. that is a major leg up... No corruption or bribery needed.
And there is a logical reason for it. These schools are looking to educate the next generation of successful people. Being successful is partly being smart, but it also having family connections. These schools want a mix of the smartest people, and the best family connections.
You are not getting what is going on. The $15k is not going to the school, or anyone in the school. It is going to advise the parents on how to convince the school to accept their children. The tuition going to the school is $10k to $100k a year. Donations made to the school should probably be done before your child is born.
You are paying the consultant to explain all this to you. That is where the $15k is going.
What a sad statement on Texas. Rice is a university with graduate students in chemistry and chemical engineering. And according to you, high schools have better equipment than these graduate students are given access to.
Matt Dillon
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That's K-12, what the-?
You can get coaching on getting your child into pre-school.
Matt Dillon
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Would not need it. That's a bit of a racket there.
TOP
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No consultants here... If you want your girls to go here , you can get in... No.
Idea why though when you've got one of the top ranked schools in Ohio less than a mile away....
Absurd tuition.... But they do get to eat lunch on china and regular silverware...lol Tuition & Tuition Assistance - Columbus School for Girls | A Premier all-girls school https://share.google/Q4I3OCOrVfmOkPJUO
Idea why though when you've got one of the top ranked schools in Ohio less than a mile away....
Absurd tuition.... But they do get to eat lunch on china and regular silverware...lol Tuition & Tuition Assistance - Columbus School for Girls | A Premier all-girls school https://share.google/Q4I3OCOrVfmOkPJUO
Freddy Figbottom
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parasites.
cawacko
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I'm sorry for continuing to respond to this, this isn't out of malice but true intrigue. In San Francisco, outside of Lowell, we don't have the elite merit based public schools a place like NYC does. So everyone sends their kids to private school. At least within my circle of acquaintances, where you're going to send your kid to school comes up a lot in discussions including are you using a consultant or anything else to try and help.
Being SF, it's not uncommon to hear a fair amount of anti-Trump rhetoric in these types of conversations as well. But never have I heard anyone say Barron Trump went to private school.
Where does that come from? My wife often asks how my brain works. I'm asking you the same question here.
Easy now, never implied “the whole private school ecosystem” anything, rather that It occurs, and occurs often enough to recognize it as a reality, be it a private school or country club, money talks, especially in an era where values are less appreciated but the day
Similar to your optimism with NIL two years ago, and seen where that has taken what used to be known as college football, what do you imagine Texas’s payroll is today
You better save your energy for toddy’s game, I see USC is a two and half to three point favorite. As your favorite Bruins showed, those MidWest teams often don’t do well when they have to travel west, just like the old Rose Bowl games.
cawacko
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I’m not attacking you, just curious what you’re basing that on. I’ve played and know members at LACC, Cypress, MPCC, and SFGC. Those are about as elite as it gets in California. I’ve heard stories of a few super rich folks trying to skip the years long waitlists and buy their way in and getting turned down. Those clubs are full of rich people already, so money doesn’t impress them. If you’ve actually seen someone pull it off, I’d love to hear it.
As for private high schools, you have far more candidates than spaces available. Most of the people applying have money. It’s not about taking anyone who can afford it.
I told you I wasn't confident about the Illinois game. Today is a really really big game, both for our season and our 2026 recruiting class. Like you said, it's hard to travel cross country and play as Penn State showed last week.
Basing it on today’s realities, again, not saying it is common, but it surely happens.
You can not tell me if someone looking for an invitation knows another on the board of some Club and that someone has exerting influence, a little “encouragement,” as a donation to a charity or beneficial business deal, wouldn’t be out of the question. Can see a similar situation for some schools
To deny such hints at your naivety, which isn’t a bad thing, as I said, I’m cynical by nature, and the world needs optimists
T. A. Gardner
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While you are at it, you can pay $6k to coach your daughter into a sorority.
Can a $6,000 coach get you into your dream sorority?
At the start of her sophomore year at Florida State University, Kasey Hines felt increasingly dejected. During “rush,” a one-to-two-week gantlet of events and conversations for potential new sorority sisters, she fell into depression. Hines had always imagined Greek life as part of the...
The ability to pay tuition promotes what you call mediocrity. A reminder, almost none of these students have earned their tuition payments. It was just given to them. Because the schools give preferential treatment to students who can pay their tuition. that is a major leg up... No corruption or bribery needed.
No. It's when the ability to get a school to ignore their own admission standards in favor of a huge bribe or "contribution" that's the problem.
Yea, the school is a for profit organization. The parents are connected so that brings status to the school. The school can tolerate a relative handful of privileged mediocre students. Everybody directly involved wins, society as a whole loses.
It's all the same. The end result is the same. How you get there, and what it costs, may vary. It is corruption and bribery in one form or another.
You are paying the "consultant" to grease the rails and get your kid into some particular school.
It's far more important that the teacher / professor knows their shit inside and out and can convey that to the students, particularly gradual (no, I didn't misspell that) students, than it is that the school have cutting edge 'stuff' and technology.
A great teacher / professor with crap for teaching tools will outperform a crap teacher / professor with great teaching tools every time.