California lawmakers wanted to get tough on data centers. Here’s what survived

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Are people talking about data centers where you live? They’re what make AI, cloud computing, and streaming possible but they also use a lot of land, water, and energy.

Politically, at the national level, Democrats usually emphasize environmental costs and Republicans focus on economic benefits. Locally though, that sometimes flips.



California lawmakers wanted to get tough on data centers. Here’s what survived


California lawmakers started the year signaling they were ready to get tough on data centers, aiming to protect the environment and electricity ratepayers. Nine months later, they have little to show for it.

Of four data center bills in play, two never made it out of the Legislature, including one that would have required data centers to publicize their power use and another that would have provided incentives for them to use more clean energy.

Two others are on Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk, but in substantially reduced form. One mandates disclosure of water use by data center operators, although now in a way that may elude public access. Another originally aimed to protect energy customers from shouldering infrastructure costs driven by data centers but now merely lets regulators figure out if that is happening.


Data centers have the seemingly mundane job of storing and transmitting the contents of the internet. But the drab, largely windowless facilities are becoming a growing public policy concern. At least one is involved every time you watch a TikTok video or shop on Amazon.

In recent years, demand for artificial intelligence, and especially new general purpose systems like ChatGPT, caused such server farms to multiply. That means more water to cool semiconductors used to train and deploy AI models and more power plants and transmission lines, leaving state regulators increasingly concerned about stress on reservoirs and potentially higher power bills for residential customers.

Those concerns are not confined to California; communities and regulators in several states have made moves toward transparency requirements or efficiency standards. Michigan in 2024 enacted a law to require water use disclosure and the mayor of St. Louis enacted new rules earlier this month.

California is home to one of the largest concentrations of existing data centers in the world, and more projects are on the way. Pacific Gas and Electric Co., the largest power supplier in the state, reported this spring that it saw a 40 percent jump in data center hookup requests. In July, the California Public Utilities Commission voted to streamline data center project applications.

Protecting your electric bill

One of the bills now with the governor, Senate Bill 57, authorizes the state public utility commission to assess whether data center loads shift costs to other customers like renters and homeowners.


Initially that bill from Democratic Sen. Steve Padilla of Chula Vista sought protections like those recently approved in Oregon and Ohio to ensure data center costs aren’t passed on to households.

But amendments by the Assembly Appropriations Committee in late August changed the bill to eliminate a special pay structure for data centers. A requirement that the commission assess how data centers shift costs to ratepayers was also reduced to an authorization, effectively granting the utility commission authority that it already had. Commission officials told CalMatters they’re using that power.

The changes soured at least one early backer on the bill. The Utility Reform Network supported the proposal initially for its protections of small businesses and residential ratepayers. The group still thinks the governor should sign it into law to track the impact of data centers, but “unfortunately lobbyists for data centers successfully gutted the bill,” said TURN director of race, equity, and legislative policy Adria Tinnin. “It doesn’t allow us to do anything to actually protect ratepayers from the impacts of data centers.”

PG&E initially opposed the bill, but retracted opposition after changes last month. In August, with support from the California Public Utilities Commission, PG&E adopted a rule that requires new customers for large projects — two-thirds of which are data centers — to cover initial costs of transmission lines instead of passing those costs on to ratepayers.

Big Tech-backed organizations such as the Data Center Coalition and the Silicon Valley Leadership Group continue to oppose the bill. They say the state public utility commission already assesses prospective projects.

Tapping in to water metrics

If signed into law, Assembly Bill 93 will require data center operators to share with their water supplier how much water they estimate they will consume when they apply for or renew a business license or permit. It also directs state agencies to develop water use efficiency guidelines and best practices for data centers, and for businesses to self-certify that they comply with them. It was written by Diane Papan, a Democrat from San Mateo and chair of the Assembly committee on water, parks, and wildlife. An environmental group last year sued the Bay Area city of Pittsburg over a data center development, citing water concerns. A community group also raised the issue in relation to a data center near the Salton Sea.

The same Big Tech groups that are fighting the consumer cost bill are also opposed to the water legislation, saying sharing water use data could divulge trade secrets and harm the competitive edge of businesses.

Data center water use is a concern in part because many of the facilities are located in drier areas and can consume hundreds of thousands of gallons of water a day. From Southern California to San Jose in the Bay Area, roughly 17 data center projects planned in California as of May are in areas where water stress is high or extremely high, according to reporting by Bloomberg.

A Stanford University study released in April found that Los Angeles and Northern California rank among some of the most popular locations in the U.S. for future data center projects, alongside drought-stricken areas fighting over the fast-draining Colorado River like Phoenix and Las Vegas.

Water concerns have been a key reason behind recent opposition to data centers in Arizona, Georgia, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia, said University of Virginia assistant professor Lauren Bridges, who tracks local and state data center regulation across the U.S. “Because we don’t have any information from the industry about specific site usage, it makes it almost impossible to know what’s going on and how it might impact them,” she said.


 
Nuclear power plants would solve this problem, but don't hold your breath on any getting built. Solar and wind are NOT the future of electrical generation.
 
Nuclear power plants would solve this problem, but don't hold your breath on any getting built. Solar and wind are NOT the future of electrical generation.

As Terry lives in the past with the same line on almost every single new technology that gets discussed on this forum, being bad and unworkable, the world moves on and keeps improving. That is outside the US under Trump which is moving back to fossil fuel dependance, which will greatly harm the US with increasing energy needs.


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Are people talking about data centers where you live? They’re what make AI, cloud computing, and streaming possible but they also use a lot of land, water, and energy.

Politically, at the national level, Democrats usually emphasize environmental costs and Republicans focus on economic benefits. Locally though, that sometimes flips.



California lawmakers wanted to get tough on data centers. Here’s what survived


California lawmakers started the year signaling they were ready to get tough on data centers, aiming to protect the environment and electricity ratepayers. Nine months later, they have little to show for it.

Of four data center bills in play, two never made it out of the Legislature, including one that would have required data centers to publicize their power use and another that would have provided incentives for them to use more clean energy.

Two others are on Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk, but in substantially reduced form. One mandates disclosure of water use by data center operators, although now in a way that may elude public access. Another originally aimed to protect energy customers from shouldering infrastructure costs driven by data centers but now merely lets regulators figure out if that is happening.


Data centers have the seemingly mundane job of storing and transmitting the contents of the internet. But the drab, largely windowless facilities are becoming a growing public policy concern. At least one is involved every time you watch a TikTok video or shop on Amazon.

In recent years, demand for artificial intelligence, and especially new general purpose systems like ChatGPT, caused such server farms to multiply. That means more water to cool semiconductors used to train and deploy AI models and more power plants and transmission lines, leaving state regulators increasingly concerned about stress on reservoirs and potentially higher power bills for residential customers.

Those concerns are not confined to California; communities and regulators in several states have made moves toward transparency requirements or efficiency standards. Michigan in 2024 enacted a law to require water use disclosure and the mayor of St. Louis enacted new rules earlier this month.

California is home to one of the largest concentrations of existing data centers in the world, and more projects are on the way. Pacific Gas and Electric Co., the largest power supplier in the state, reported this spring that it saw a 40 percent jump in data center hookup requests. In July, the California Public Utilities Commission voted to streamline data center project applications.

Protecting your electric bill

One of the bills now with the governor, Senate Bill 57, authorizes the state public utility commission to assess whether data center loads shift costs to other customers like renters and homeowners.


Initially that bill from Democratic Sen. Steve Padilla of Chula Vista sought protections like those recently approved in Oregon and Ohio to ensure data center costs aren’t passed on to households.

But amendments by the Assembly Appropriations Committee in late August changed the bill to eliminate a special pay structure for data centers. A requirement that the commission assess how data centers shift costs to ratepayers was also reduced to an authorization, effectively granting the utility commission authority that it already had. Commission officials told CalMatters they’re using that power.

The changes soured at least one early backer on the bill. The Utility Reform Network supported the proposal initially for its protections of small businesses and residential ratepayers. The group still thinks the governor should sign it into law to track the impact of data centers, but “unfortunately lobbyists for data centers successfully gutted the bill,” said TURN director of race, equity, and legislative policy Adria Tinnin. “It doesn’t allow us to do anything to actually protect ratepayers from the impacts of data centers.”

PG&E initially opposed the bill, but retracted opposition after changes last month. In August, with support from the California Public Utilities Commission, PG&E adopted a rule that requires new customers for large projects — two-thirds of which are data centers — to cover initial costs of transmission lines instead of passing those costs on to ratepayers.

Big Tech-backed organizations such as the Data Center Coalition and the Silicon Valley Leadership Group continue to oppose the bill. They say the state public utility commission already assesses prospective projects.

Tapping in to water metrics

If signed into law, Assembly Bill 93 will require data center operators to share with their water supplier how much water they estimate they will consume when they apply for or renew a business license or permit. It also directs state agencies to develop water use efficiency guidelines and best practices for data centers, and for businesses to self-certify that they comply with them. It was written by Diane Papan, a Democrat from San Mateo and chair of the Assembly committee on water, parks, and wildlife. An environmental group last year sued the Bay Area city of Pittsburg over a data center development, citing water concerns. A community group also raised the issue in relation to a data center near the Salton Sea.

The same Big Tech groups that are fighting the consumer cost bill are also opposed to the water legislation, saying sharing water use data could divulge trade secrets and harm the competitive edge of businesses.

Data center water use is a concern in part because many of the facilities are located in drier areas and can consume hundreds of thousands of gallons of water a day. From Southern California to San Jose in the Bay Area, roughly 17 data center projects planned in California as of May are in areas where water stress is high or extremely high, according to reporting by Bloomberg.

A Stanford University study released in April found that Los Angeles and Northern California rank among some of the most popular locations in the U.S. for future data center projects, alongside drought-stricken areas fighting over the fast-draining Colorado River like Phoenix and Las Vegas.

Water concerns have been a key reason behind recent opposition to data centers in Arizona, Georgia, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia, said University of Virginia assistant professor Lauren Bridges, who tracks local and state data center regulation across the U.S. “Because we don’t have any information from the industry about specific site usage, it makes it almost impossible to know what’s going on and how it might impact them,” she said.


To add to your bewilderment, upstate New York is beginning massive tech production developments. I briefly, real briefly, looked at the environmental impact study for a 100 billion dollar chip plant and it is over 200 pages long and includes preparation for the relocation of a bat colony plus development of new wetlands
 
To add to your bewilderment, upstate New York is beginning massive tech production developments. I briefly, real briefly, looked at the environmental impact study for a 100 billion dollar chip plant and it is over 200 pages long and includes preparation for the relocation of a bat colony plus development of new wetlands
That’s a great example. Big tech projects have always been complex, but the layers of regulation today make them even more so. On one hand they drive innovation and create jobs. On the other, they involve lengthy approval processes that cover everything from relocating bat colonies to developing new wetlands like you said. It’s progress and bureaucracy all at once.
 
That’s a great example. Big tech projects have always been complex, but the layers of regulation today make them even more so. On one hand they drive innovation and create jobs. On the other, they involve lengthy approval processes that cover everything from relocating bat colonies to developing new wetlands like you said. It’s progress and bureaucracy all at once.
You dissing the bats?

You also forgot the endless lawsuits filed by some entity that felt they were slighted and overlooked, them bats weren’t defending themselves. But if it is possible in New York, where building regulations are endless, it is attainable anywhere
 
You dissing the bats?

You also forgot the endless lawsuits filed by some entity that felt they were slighted and overlooked, them bats weren’t defending themselves. But if it is possible in New York, where building regulations are endless, it is attainable anywhere
Ha! No disrespect to bats, they probably have better lawyers than the developers.

I was curious how people feel about this in terms of the growth and the economic trade offs that come with it.
 
Ha! No disrespect to bats, they probably have better lawyers than the developers.

I was curious how people feel about this in terms of the growth and the economic trade offs that come with it.
Only know what I read, not my community, but most seem to be in favor, jobs, and Micron has properly followed all the required steps, have had a year delay with public hearings and addressing concerns.

Actually a good location for Micron, the infamous snow provides the necessary water, there is a nuclear plant nearby, rail and road are there, and upstate is known for its colleges and universities. The area could use it, can’t rely on small businesses and the tourist dollars
 
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