Generals know that what Trump is doing is wrong. "It is also illegal for Donald Trump to order U.S. Troops against Americans in American Cities.
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A Johnson news conference negates the laws? WOW, you are weird. And Johnson is the biggest hypocrite in politics. He claims all this deep religion and then lies to the cameras over and over. You are blind to the truth. You probably think Portland is burning down.
Fox said their station systematically lies. You cannot understand that. How sad that you are so deeply conned.
Dutch Uncle
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So, you can’t refute Speaker Johnson’s proof.
You could have have just said so, Nordy.
Poor Nordy.
鬼百合
One day we will wake to his obituary :-)
Can undocumented immigrants get 'free health care' or Medicaid?
GOP says Dems want free health care for immigrants here illegally. Dems say that's not at all what they're demanding.
www.usatoday.com
House Speaker Mike Johnson, a Louisiana Republican, told CNBC on the morning of the Oct. 1 shutdown that Democrats "want to restore taxpayer funded benefits, American taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens."
"We're not doing that," he added.
But that's not what Democrats are demanding at all.
Democrats say they're fighting to restore Medicaid benefits that were cut in President Donald Trump's "Big Beautiful" tax and budget bill, which he signed into law in July.
The morning after the shutdown began, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, told MSNBC that Democrats are not in any way asking for health care for people in the country without legal status.
"It's a total, absolute [expletive] lie," he said.
Do 'illegal' immigrants get free health care?
Undocumented immigrants are largely ineligible for federal health benefits, said Leo Cuello, research professor at Georgetown University's McCourt School of Public Policy.They don't qualify for comprehensive Medicaid coverage, Medicare or the Children's Health Insurance Program. And they can't purchase federally subsidized health plans on exchanges backed by the Affordable Care Act.
There are immigrants on Medicaid in the United States. So-called "noncitizen enrollees" in Medicaid accounted for 6% of the total, according to KFF, a nonprofit that conducts research and polling on health policy.
Not being a citizen isn't the same as residing in the United States illegally; there are many ways to live here as a legal resident, without full U.S. citizenship. This is where the political argument gets messy.
Medicaid is a joint federal-state program. The new GOP tax and spending law tightens up access to Medicaid benefits in several ways including by prohibiting an individual from being enrolled in multiple state plans; ensuring deceased individuals don't remain enrolled; and by instituting more frequent eligibility screening.
All told, the new law leaves 10 million more Americans uninsured, Cuello said, by rolling back a Medicaid expansion and making changes to the Affordable Care Act marketplace. An additional 4 million people may no longer be able to afford insurance on the Affordable Care Act exchanges when tax credits expire at the end of the year.
But the law also quietly excluded from Medicaid eligibility certain classes of lawful immigrants who previously might have qualified for benefits.
Who is considered a legal immigrant?
The Trump administration and many Republicans have taken the view this year that certain immigrants once considered "legal" should no longer be.For example, the Department of Homeland Security this year canceled humanitarian parole under the Biden-era Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans program, or CHNV. DHS also revoked the Temporary Protected Status of some Venezuelans, Haitians and others, though the revocations are tied up in federal court.
In March, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service's list of so-called "qualified aliens" who were eligible for Medicaid coverage included only lawful immigrants: legal permanent residents, refugees, people granted asylum, people granted humanitarian parole including Ukrainians and Afghans, certain Cubans and Haitians and certain victims of human trafficking and domestic violence, among others.
Even among the "qualified aliens," several groups were required to wait five to seven years after their arrival in the United States before they could become eligible, according to an April 2025 report by Congressional Research Service.
The new law restricts eligibility only to U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents, i.e. green card holders and certain Cuban and Haitian immigrants.
"Refugees, victims of trafficking, victims of domestic violence, people here for humanitarian reasons and people granted political asylum are all groups who today are in Medicaid and tomorrow will not be," Cuello said.
The law also restricts payments to states for medical assistance – including emergency care – furnished to anyone who isn't a citizen or lawful permanent resident. In 1986, Congress passed a law requiring that anyone in need of emergency care receive it, regardless of who they are or their ability to pay.
"Currently the federal government pays a share of those costs," Cuello said. "This law says the federal government will reduce how much money it is paying."
Democrats want to reverse many of the health care-related provisions included in the new act to keep more Americans, and some lawful immigrants, eligible for Medicaid. They say the shutdown is over preserving healthcare access, and there is no proposal to provide free health care to people living in the country illegally.
The Schumer shutdown to continue illegals’ health care benefits has failed.
October 1, 2025
Democrats and their Fake News allies want you to believe it’s all a lie that Democrats shut down the government over free healthcare for illegal aliens.
Except that’s exactly what happened. As Vice President JD Vance said, “It’s not something that we made up. It’s not a talking point. It is in the text of the bill that they initially gave to us to reopen the government.”
As the White House makes clear in a new memo, Democrats’ unserious proposal takes extraordinary efforts to accommodate illegal aliens while repealing reforms that strengthen healthcare for American citizens.
FACT: Democrats Shut Down Government Over Free Healthcare for Illegals
The White HouseOctober 1, 2025
Democrats and their Fake News allies want you to believe it’s all a lie that Democrats shut down the government over free healthcare for illegal aliens.
Except that’s exactly what happened. As Vice President JD Vance said, “It’s not something that we made up. It’s not a talking point. It is in the text of the bill that they initially gave to us to reopen the government.”
As the White House makes clear in a new memo, Democrats’ unserious proposal takes extraordinary efforts to accommodate illegal aliens while repealing reforms that strengthen healthcare for American citizens.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would result in nearly $200 billion spent on healthcare for illegal immigrants and other non-citizens over the next decade — enough to fund the entire Children’s Health Insurance Program.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would once again allow those improperly granted asylum and parole under Biden’s open borders scheme to receive Medicaid.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would require Medicaid to pay more for emergency care provided to illegal aliens than it does for American patients who are disabled, elderly, or children.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would allow California to continue exploiting a loophole to fund Medicaid for illegal aliens.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would reinstate a special Obamacare subsidy for non-citizens — for which low-income American citizens are not eligible.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would repeal a generational $50 billion investment in rural healthcare.
- FACT: Democrats’ proposal would take Health Savings Accounts away from ten million American https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles...overnment-over-free-healthcare-for-illegals/l
Dutch Uncle
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All MAGAts are evil, lying scum who worship the Dark Lord's Orange Jesus.Can undocumented immigrants get 'free health care' or Medicaid?
GOP says Dems want free health care for immigrants here illegally. Dems say that's not at all what they're demanding.www.usatoday.com
House Speaker Mike Johnson, a Louisiana Republican, told CNBC on the morning of the Oct. 1 shutdown that Democrats "want to restore taxpayer funded benefits, American taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens."
"We're not doing that," he added.
But that's not what Democrats are demanding at all.
Democrats say they're fighting to restore Medicaid benefits that were cut in President Donald Trump's "Big Beautiful" tax and budget bill, which he signed into law in July.
The morning after the shutdown began, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, told MSNBC that Democrats are not in any way asking for health care for people in the country without legal status.
"It's a total, absolute [expletive] lie," he said.
Do 'illegal' immigrants get free health care?
Undocumented immigrants are largely ineligible for federal health benefits, said Leo Cuello, research professor at Georgetown University's McCourt School of Public Policy.
They don't qualify for comprehensive Medicaid coverage, Medicare or the Children's Health Insurance Program. And they can't purchase federally subsidized health plans on exchanges backed by the Affordable Care Act.
There are immigrants on Medicaid in the United States. So-called "noncitizen enrollees" in Medicaid accounted for 6% of the total, according to KFF, a nonprofit that conducts research and polling on health policy.
Not being a citizen isn't the same as residing in the United States illegally; there are many ways to live here as a legal resident, without full U.S. citizenship. This is where the political argument gets messy.
Medicaid is a joint federal-state program. The new GOP tax and spending law tightens up access to Medicaid benefits in several ways including by prohibiting an individual from being enrolled in multiple state plans; ensuring deceased individuals don't remain enrolled; and by instituting more frequent eligibility screening.
All told, the new law leaves 10 million more Americans uninsured, Cuello said, by rolling back a Medicaid expansion and making changes to the Affordable Care Act marketplace. An additional 4 million people may no longer be able to afford insurance on the Affordable Care Act exchanges when tax credits expire at the end of the year.
But the law also quietly excluded from Medicaid eligibility certain classes of lawful immigrants who previously might have qualified for benefits.
Who is considered a legal immigrant?
The Trump administration and many Republicans have taken the view this year that certain immigrants once considered "legal" should no longer be.
For example, the Department of Homeland Security this year canceled humanitarian parole under the Biden-era Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans program, or CHNV. DHS also revoked the Temporary Protected Status of some Venezuelans, Haitians and others, though the revocations are tied up in federal court.
In March, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service's list of so-called "qualified aliens" who were eligible for Medicaid coverage included only lawful immigrants: legal permanent residents, refugees, people granted asylum, people granted humanitarian parole including Ukrainians and Afghans, certain Cubans and Haitians and certain victims of human trafficking and domestic violence, among others.
Even among the "qualified aliens," several groups were required to wait five to seven years after their arrival in the United States before they could become eligible, according to an April 2025 report by Congressional Research Service.
The new law restricts eligibility only to U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents, i.e. green card holders and certain Cuban and Haitian immigrants.
"Refugees, victims of trafficking, victims of domestic violence, people here for humanitarian reasons and people granted political asylum are all groups who today are in Medicaid and tomorrow will not be," Cuello said.
The law also restricts payments to states for medical assistance – including emergency care – furnished to anyone who isn't a citizen or lawful permanent resident. In 1986, Congress passed a law requiring that anyone in need of emergency care receive it, regardless of who they are or their ability to pay.
"Currently the federal government pays a share of those costs," Cuello said. "This law says the federal government will reduce how much money it is paying."
Democrats want to reverse many of the health care-related provisions included in the new act to keep more Americans, and some lawful immigrants, eligible for Medicaid. They say the shutdown is over preserving healthcare access, and there is no proposal to provide free health care to people living in the country illegally.
Dutch Uncle
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Why does Trump think this will earn him the Nobel Peace Prize?
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Where does it say ILLEGALS are getting it?
Dutch Uncle
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Never expect a rational answer from a MAGAt. Especially a JPP MAGAt since they are unable to do so. Some because they were born that way, others because they became damaged along the way.
@Earl is among the damaged.
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Earl is a very sad case
Dutch Uncle
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Sad but true. Not the way I want to go, all bitter and evil.
Matt Dillon
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I wonder if the locals around guno know how much he loathes them?
Is he a mob snitch and got relocated to NC? What's the fuckin' deal with that, hmm?
Obviously a yankee fucking peckerneck.
Cause he is a narcissistWhy does Trump think this will earn him the Nobel Peace Prize?
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
Poor peckerwoodI wonder if the locals around guno know how much he loathes them?
Is he a mob snitch and got relocated to NC? What's the fuckin' deal with that, hmm?
Obviously a yankee fucking peckerneck.
Crepitus
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Kegsbreath is just as vindictive and petty as his orange idol.