To Hell With Charlie Kirk

Cypress said:
The big three miracles that are tenets in the atheist belief system are that something can come from nothing, that order and organization can randomly come from chaos, and that life can come from non-life.
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They're a weird bunch which is usually why they are 20something white males in the US.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
He thinks he's God for creating life by stretching out his hand over his wife's belly and saying "Let there be life!"
This conversation gets weirder and weirder. LOL

Agreed. As the AI answer pointed out, it seems human beings are a long way from creating life from scratch.
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I seriously ever doubt we will ever have a definitive explanation for how irreducibly complex cellular biology can just emerge from inanimate chemical matter.
 
Cypress said:
You've never heard of the gospel accounts and the letters of Paul?
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I don't tend to believe something just because it was written down somewhere. Also: Paul never met Jesus in the flesh and only experienced a "vision". Lots of people experience "visions".

Cypress said:
The death and alleged resurrection of Jesus is one of the most thoroughly attested events of the first century.
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So why isn't everyone a Christian if it is so well documented?


Cypress said:
We have accounts from Jews (Mark, Matthew, Paul, John) and gentiles (Luke), as well as indirect references to other witnesses.
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LOL.
 
Cypress said:
There is sufficient written testimonial evidence from the first century that a historical Jesus of Nazareth was executed, and that the apostles genuinely believed they saw him again after the crucifixion. The question is how to explain that.

Two billion people on the planet believe that is enough evidence to believe in life after death. It's not blind faith, it's belief based on the ubiquitous documentary evidence.

You don't have to agree with their conclusion.
But you can't say they are not using evidence and deductive inference. You definitely can't say it's based on blind faith.
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Yep. I never said there was not an apocalyptic Jew named Jesus that was crucified. The question being, which Christians claim, is that he was the son of God and was resurrected on the third day, which of course defies all laws of science. There are 4 resurrection narratives and they all differ.

No, two billion people don’t have EVIDENCE, because there is none. They have FAITH. There is not only NOT ubiquitous documentary evidence, there is ubiquitous NO documentary evidence. But, go ahead and provide that credible documentation. I’m interested in seeing it.
 
Cypress said:
That is life coming from life. No one has declared that to be a mystery.

The mystery is how life can come from non-life. We aren't even remotely close to understanding that, even though we have been conducting experiments in laboratory conditions for 80 years.
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Yep, sure is. Just like my parents created my life. That’s pretty much how it works.

I don’t know how life initiated on this planet. That has nothing to do with proof of the Christian god.

You’re kinda getting off track there.
 
Cypress said:
The big three miracles that are tenets in the atheist belief system are that something can come from nothing, that order and organization can randomly come from chaos, and that life can come from non-life.
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Nope. None of the above. Who the fuck is telling you all these lies?
 
Cypress said:
You've never heard of the gospel accounts and the letters of Paul?

The death and alleged resurrection of Jesus is one of the most thoroughly attested events of the first century. We have accounts from Jews (Mark, Matthew, Paul, John) and gentiles (Luke), as well as indirect references to other witnesses.
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Yep, I sure have. Paul is the one who hijacked the teachings of Jesus and concocted, or at least promoted, a bunch of shit Jesus never said.

You have no fucking idea who wrote those gospels. They never met Jesus, heard Jesus, saw Jesus or knew Jesus, much less witness a resurrection.They merely passed on some stories they had heard. And not very accurately, either.

Hos about those Mormon tablets?
 
gmark77 said:
I don't tend to believe something just because it was written down somewhere. Also: Paul never met Jesus in the flesh and only experienced a "vision". Lots of people experience "visions".



So why isn't everyone a Christian if it is so well documented?




LOL.
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Which explains why you never got past the rock collecting stage of your "Geochem PhD". LOL
 
domer76 said:
There you go again with another lie.

Are you MAGAT in disguise?
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Not a lie, domer76, as your posts on this thread and elsewhere prove. You think you can create life. You have no clue about the origin of the Universe but you "know" it wasn't supernatural* force. You have no clue how life began from inanimate matter but you "know" it wasn't a supernatural force.

I'm not a MAGAt. It's easy to spot them because they resort to name-calling and labeling others liars as an emotional rather than a logical response. They are sad and hateful people.


*https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supernatural
of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe
 
domer76 said:
Nope. None of the above. Who the fuck is telling you all these lies?
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No one has to tell me. These miracles are the basic tenets of the atheist belief system.

On the other hand, if you want to claim you simply don't know how the universe began, don't know how the universe was finely tuned, don't know where the physical laws come from and why they exist, and don't know how life comes from non-life, then you are not an atheist. You are an agnostic.
 
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