T. A. Gardner
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And OJ is looking for the real killers...
Floyd did the fentanyl himself. Chaven just exacerbated the problem with that by his actions.
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Floyd did the fentanyl himself. Chaven just exacerbated the problem with that by his actions.
BartenderElite
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You were ABSOLUTELY moving the goalposts. Because the original discussion was about propping Floyd up as a "hero."
You pivoted to the usual "the left is more violent" stuff, w/ the comparison that many have repeated since last week of how the right reacted to Kirk's tragic killing, and how the left reacted w/ the BLM riots.
THAT is what rational people call an entirely different discussion.
T. A. Gardner
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Part of that hero status is how people reacted to him being elevated to one.
The Left is more violent. That doesn't absolve the Right of their violence.
BartenderElite
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I almost added a prediction of how you might do some mental gymnastics to make it seem like the same discussion.
It isn't. It was a goalpost move.
BartenderElite
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As I said in subsequent posts - he's a symbol. It's intellectually dishonest to suggest that he's a "hero" to the left the way that Kirk is a hero to the right.
Are there statutes to Floyd?
BartenderElite
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There are - but I still see those as symbolic.
If you go back throughout the history of people protesting for civil rights, I think people were held up that had less than admirable lives - but who served as symbols to the movement simply because of what had happened to them.
I'm not saying no one might have seen him as a hero - but I don't think that's a mainstream POV or discussion. He didn't inspire w/ his words or the way he lived his life. But in the minds of those who protested, he was yet another victim of senseless brutality from authority.
I still see it as hero worship. Thing are symbolic for a reason.
It is intellectually dishonest to suggest Floyd isn't a hero on the left. Symbols have meaning.
BartenderElite
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We'll just have to disagree on this one.
A hero is someone whose ideas or actions inspire people. Floyd is a symbol because of what happened to him - and that's it. No one is propping his life up like conservatives and others rightfully prop Kirk's life up. Kirk lived his LIFE in an inspiring way. That isn't what people are talking about when they talk about Floyd.
And I'm not disparaging the guy, but he obviously had flaws and it's equally obvious that no one talks about how he spoke or lived his life.
Agreed, but why demand statues of Civil War generals or Christopher Columbus be taken down.
True. One guy was a person who believed in talking to the other side. The other was a life long piece of shit who literally stuck a gun in the stomach of a pregnant woman and demanded she give him her money. No comparison AT ALL.
T. A. Gardner
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More like Floyd did fentanyl, then committed felonies / crimes that brought the police. He then resisted the police and they responded and as a result, he died.
This was 90% Floyd's fault and maybe 10% the police's. Floyd chose to do illegal and potentially deadly drugs. He chose to try and pass counterfeit money. He chose to shoplift / rob the store when they wouldn't take his funny money. The police arriving to arrest him is due entirely to his actions. That the police handled the situation badly afterwards is secondary to all of Floyd's fuck ups and crimes that created the situation in the first place.
IBDaMann
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Yes he was. His death was blamed on the nearest white guy when, in fact, Floyd died of a heart attack that he caused himself while attacking cops for no reason other than he was a violent shit.
George Floyd was a shit who was deified for being a drug-abusing, violent black man. Charlie Kirk was assassinated over words spoken calmly in peace. The difference dwarfs the Grand Canyon.
FTFY. Floyd was a hero for the left. The left loves any excuse to riot in violence.
It was about black supremacy. The laws aren't supposed to apply to blacks. Blacks aren't supposed to respect the cops. Blacks aren't supposed to be held accountable for their actions and decisions; that's for everyone else.
IBDaMann
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Actually, Floyd dies of cardiac arrest from years of drug-abuse damage that was self-inflicted to his heart, that caused his heart to fail when he loaded up on fentanyl, norfentanyl and lots of caffeine, and then decided to become belligerent woth the cops. All that triggered a heart attack which could not be helped by rushing an ambulance to the scene (as they tried).
Floyd killed himself.
For words. Nobody on the left has been able to produce any hateful rhetoric from Charlie Kirk except for taking tightly cropped snippets totally out of context.
Shame on you for totally lying about a guy who was assassinated.
IBDaMann
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That's the point, genius. There's no comparison. The left heralds violence and shit. The left assassinates peaceful people on the right. Are you seeing the bigger picture here?
IBDaMann
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There is nothing about this that is preventing Floyd from breathing. Floyd stopped breathing because of the heart attack he brought upon himself.
Boelter was a progressive Democrat who supported Walz. He shot other Democrats because he thought he was helping Walz get Klobuchar's seat in the Senate.
Please, show me a conservative coup attempt.
Oh, I see now you’re assigned percentages to it. Are you sure it’s not 89/11%? 85/15?
Yep, he was no angel. He was also murdered by the cops. Assign a probability to that.