There’s an absolute sea of people waiting outside State Farm Arena in Arizona for Charlie Kirk’s memorial

Matt Dillon said:
Link to the 4000? That seems unrealistically high, IMO. :dunno:
As a matter of fact I've seen Charlie Kirk prove it was 4 and only 4 in whatever year he said that in up to that point, and I saw it yesterday.
That thousands things has got to be bullshit.
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True, that number is from GVA, gunviolencearchive.org. And uses a less strict criteria than the FBI who cuts the numbers through motive rather than just numbers. If we go by just the FBI reported shootings you get the below chart, which will still show that "in a row" is a massive exaggeration:

YearActive Shooter IncidentsNotes
201827Steady pre-pandemic levels.
201930Slight uptick.
202040Pandemic-related increase.
202161Peak year amid social stressors.
202250Decline from 2021.
202348Continued slight decrease.
20242450% drop from 2023; downward trend noted.
2025~10–15 (YTD est.)Preliminary; on pace for low 20s, per ongoing FBI tracking.
Total (2018–2024)~23070% rise from 2015–2019 baseline, but recent years show stabilization/decline.
 
Damocles said:
True, that number is from GVA, gunviolencearchive.org. And uses a less strict criteria than the FBI who cuts the numbers through motive rather than just numbers. If we go by just the FBI reported shootings you get the below chart, which will still show that "in a row" is a massive exaggeration:

YearActive Shooter IncidentsNotes
201827Steady pre-pandemic levels.
201930Slight uptick.
202040Pandemic-related increase.
202161Peak year amid social stressors.
202250Decline from 2021.
202348Continued slight decrease.
20242450% drop from 2023; downward trend noted.
2025~10–15 (YTD est.)Preliminary; on pace for low 20s, per ongoing FBI tracking.
Total (2018–2024)~23070% rise from 2015–2019 baseline, but recent years show stabilization/decline.
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You could have said 4K was fake AF, you know.
 
They killed Charlie Kirk, now they get the gay guy that will bitchsmack them with reality.
iykyk
Not ideal, but the current situation.
It won't be Tucker or Candace or Ben, no. It's gonna be the gay guy.
 
Matt Dillon said:
You could have said 4K was fake AF, you know.
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Meh, I was using the numbers I had found. Then realized the dataset needed some inspection when you asked the question. The response time was quick because I had also noticed that number seemed massive. FBI numbers do not report each instance of multiple murder events, GVA does not exaggerate, it just counts family annihilators right along with terrorist acts. I suspect the actual number is higher than the FBI numbers, as some states do not report their crimes to the FBI.
 
Damocles said:
Meh, I was using the numbers I had found. Then realized the dataset needed some inspection when you asked the question. The response time was quick because I had also noticed that number seemed massive. FBI numbers do not report each instance of multiple murder events, GVA does not exaggerate, it just counts family annihilators right along with terrorist acts. I suspect the actual number is higher than the FBI numbers, as some states do not report their crimes to the FBI.
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The problem is in the finding, because many things are suppressed.
Especially if they go through Google or Facebook servers. Filtered, if you will.
My uh.."Google-Fu" is strong.
(I know how to work the computers and keywords n stuff) I learned that in college when Babelfish and Google were absolute ass.
I know how to step right through their bullshit. Proved it the other day with my friend's Alexa. I can get what I want out of that stuff if it's there.
 
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