Florida plans to become first state to eliminate all childhood vaccine mandates

I haven't seen any evidence for either of those positions.



Alright, so your argument is that hospitals and counties engaged in a scam by giving their doctors and medical examiners respectively specific guide to simply hard-code- "Covid-19" in the cause of death section of the death certificate, but you do mention they were following the CDC's guidance- so was the CDC the true perpetrator and the hospitals and counties were... co-conspirators? I admit that I'm not sure what to believe in all of this, but I definitely think what they did is wrong. I'm just not sure if they saw it that way. I will note that a journalist I knew briefly who used to work exclusively as a medical journalist wrote the following article regarding Canadian care homes:

Since I don't agree that biological viruses exist, I clearly disagree with her on some things she brings up in the article, but others, such as bureaucrats developing "extremely broad definitions of novel-coronavirus infections and outbreaks" I think we can both agree with.

She also does an interview with James Corbett on her article here (I haven't yet seen it):
"I don't agree that biological viruses exist."

You fucking crackhead idiot.

To be nicer, viruses are microscopic infectious agents made of genetic material (DNA or RNA) encased in a protein shell, sometimes with a lipid envelope.

Stop spreading misinformation, you deranged conspiracy theorist.
 
Science is not a 'study' or 'method'.

You've defined what you believe science is in another post. As I said in that post, I may be able to work with that.

No study is 'scientific'.

From duckduckgo search assist:
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A study is considered scientific if it systematically collects and evaluates data using the scientific method, which includes formulating a testable hypothesis, conducting experiments, and analyzing results to draw conclusions. It must also be based on empirical evidence and be capable of being replicated by others.
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Sources:


No method is 'scientific'.

We may need to agree to disagree on that one. You can check out the link on the scientific method above if you'd like an idea as to why.
 
You are being dishonest. You know that the topic is "contract killing."
It wasn't originally. I get into the details of how things moved from abortion to contract killing in post #825.
A contract killing is arranging for a murder by another party (the killer). The arrangement is the contract. The killer might be paid for his services, or some other means may be used to compensate the killer for his services. The contractor (the one that hires the killer) and the contractee (the killer) come to some agreement, and the killer dispatches the victim as agreed.

The contractor makes the decision to kill. The killer provides the service. The victim gets no say in the matter.

What about a contract killing is unclear to you?

My dispute wasn't with the definition of contract killing, but the fact that I'd been responding to a post concerning abortions with anonymoose and IBD asked me out of the blue why I supported contract killings, which I don't. I initially thought that "contract killing" was his exotic way of labelling abortions, but I later realized that he'd actually switched the subject of the conversation I'd been having with anonymoose.
 
I now know that you'd wish to talk about that, yes. However, I'm still not sure if you agree to define the term as Wikipedia does. In case you'd like to see Wikipedia's definition, it's here:
Wikipedia does not define any word (except 'Wikipedia').

I decided to ask ChatGPT whether Wikipedia defines words. This was its response:
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Wikipedia does not define words in the same way a dictionary like Merriam-Webster or Oxford English Dictionary does.


Instead:


  • Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so it provides detailed explanations and contextual information about topics, including concepts, events, people, and sometimes even words — but in a more descriptive and encyclopedic way.
  • Dictionaries give concise definitions of words, their meanings, pronunciation, part of speech, etymology, etc.



Example:​


Word: Democracy


  • Dictionary (definition):
    A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
  • Wikipedia (encyclopedia article):
    Might include:
    • The definition
    • The history of democracy
    • Types of democracies
    • Examples of democratic governments
    • Philosophical and political theories about democracy



Summary:​


  • If you're looking for a definition, go to a dictionary.
  • If you want detailed context, history, and broader understanding, Wikipedia is a great source.
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In other words, Wikipedia tends to go beyond simple definitions of words. Conversely, it only has entries that its creators consider to be worth the trouble. Again from ChatGPT:
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Does Wikipedia give definitions for words?

ChatGPT said:​

Yes, Wikipedia often gives definitions for words, but that’s not its primary purpose.

Here's how it works:

✅ What Wikipedia​

  • Most Wikipedia articles begin with a definition-like sentence.
  • For example, the article on "Photosynthesis" starts with:

    Photosynthesis is a process used by plants and other organisms to convert light energy into chemical energy...
    That’s essentially a definition, followed by more detail.

❌ What Wikipedia doesn't do:​

  • It doesn’t list multiple meanings of a word (like a dictionary does).
  • It doesn’t cover every word, especially if the word isn’t notable enough to warrant a full article.
  • It doesn’t provide grammar info like part of speech, pronunciation, or syllables.

Summary:​

  • Yes, Wikipedia gives a definition-like introduction to a topic.
  • But it’s more of an encyclopedia entry, not a formal dictionary definition.
If you're looking for brief, precise meanings or multiple definitions, use a dictionary. If you want a deeper explanation, Wikipedia is helpful.
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So you didn't know what a set and a subset is. You had to look them up.

No, I knew what a set and a subset were. "Proper subset", on the other hand, had me wondering. It suggested there might be improper subsets. Could that a mathematical term too? I didn't know. I decided it would be best to look up "Proper subset" to be sure I wasn't missing something.

Unfortunately, nothing in logic or mathematics is defined by a search engine result.

I personally think you can learn a lot by searching for information online. I also noted that IBD certainly didn't say that the definition of a proper subset I quoted was mistaken.
 
Many words have more than one definition.
I think you mean to say that many words have more than one meaning.

No, I meant what I said. But your assertion got me thinking about something I've thought about for a while- are the words meaning and definition interchangeable? I asked ChatGPT. Here's what it told me:
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are meaning and definition interchangeable terms?

ChatGPT said:​

Great question! While "meaning" and "definition" are related, they are not always interchangeable. Here's the difference:

🔹 Definition


  • A definition is a precise explanation of a word or concept, usually found in a dictionary.

  • It's often formal, fixed, and used to clarify how a term is used in language.
Example:

  • Definition of "apple": A round fruit with red, green, or yellow skin and firm white flesh.

🔹 Meaning


  • Meaning is broader. It includes the definition, but also includes context, connotation, emotion, and interpretation.

  • It's how we understand or experience a word, phrase, or concept.
Example:

  • The word "home" might have the definition: A place where one lives.

  • But its meaning could also include feelings of safety, warmth, family, or nostalgia—things not captured in the definition alone.

✅ Summary​

TermPrecise?Contextual?Includes Emotion?Example
DefinitionYesNoNo"Cat" = a small domesticated feline
MeaningSometimesYesOften"Cat" could also mean independence, cuteness, mystery

🔁 When they can be used interchangeably:​


  • In some simple or academic contexts, especially when discussing single words, "meaning" and "definition" may be used interchangeably.

    • E.g., "What's the meaning of 'resilient'?" → You're really asking for the definition.
But overall, "meaning" is broader than definition.
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Here's what ChatGPT said when I asked it if words could have more than one definition. Note how ChatGPT brought up meaning as well, which lends credence to my belief that definitions and meanings are closely related if not always interchangeable:
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Do some words have more than one definition?

ChatGPT said:​

Yes, absolutely! Many words have multiple definitions depending on their context. This is especially true for polysemous words—words that have more than one related meaning.

Examples of Words with Multiple Definitions:

1.​

  • Financial Institution: A place where money is kept or managed.
  • Edge of a River: The land alongside a body of water.
  • To Rely On: "He’s banking on his skills to win the race."

2.​

  • Group of Things: "I have a set of keys."
  • Action (to put something down): "She set the book on the table."
  • Ready/Prepared: "The stage is set for the performance."

3.​

  • Tree's Outer Layer: "The tree’s bark is rough."
  • Sound a Dog Makes: "The dog barked loudly."

4.​

  • Brightness: "The room is full of light."
  • Not Heavy: "The box is light enough to carry."
  • To Illuminate: "Please light the candle."

5.​

  • Musical Tone: "The singer’s pitch was off."
  • To Throw: "He pitched the ball over the fence."
  • Sales Presentation: "The salesperson gave a pitch for the product."

Why does this happen?​

Words can develop multiple meanings over time due to:

  1. Metaphorical Uses: A word might take on additional meanings by being used in a metaphorical sense.
  2. Borrowed Contexts: A word might shift or adapt its meaning as it’s used in different fields or regions (e.g., legal, technological, or colloquial).
  3. Evolution of Language: The meaning of a word can change as societies, cultures, or technologies evolve.

How Do We Know Which Meaning to Use?​

It’s all about context! When reading or listening, the surrounding words or the situation often provide clues to the intended meaning.

For example, if someone says, "He banked the shot," you’d likely understand "bank" to mean "to hit something off the side of the goal post or a surface" in sports, not "financial institution."
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What I like about dictionaries is that they focus on common definitions for words,
Dictionaries do not define words.

Agreed. They do, however, provide common definitions for words, at least according to ChatGPT:
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Do dictionaries provide common definitions for words?

ChatGPT said:​

Yes — that’s a good way to put it.

Dictionaries provide common definitions (or descriptions) of how words are most often used. They don’t give every possible meaning, but they usually cover:

  • Primary/common meanings (the sense most people think of first).
  • Secondary meanings (other established uses).
  • Specialized or technical meanings (for particular fields, if relevant).
In short: dictionaries aim to give you the shared, widely understood meanings of a word so people can communicate more clearly.
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Used properly, dictionaries can be quite helpful in helping to ensure that people mean the same thing when talking about a word.
Dictionaries can be quite helpful in ensuring that people can communicate through proper word usage.

Looks like we agree here.

Dictionaries are no more constrained than you or I.

They are though. You and I can define any word any way we like. Dictionaries, on the other hand, must focus on the most common definitions for words. While it can be nice to be able to define words any way we like if we're just communicating with ourselves, it becomes a real problem if we're communicating with others who don't share our personal definitions for said words. This is why dictionaries can be quite helpful in avoiding this type of situation.
 
Here's the first definition of science from The American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition:
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The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.
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Do you agree with that definition for the purpose of our discussion?
I do not. None of this is science. I don't see "falsifiable" mentioned anywhere, nor do I see anything about models that predict nature. I would never agree to this definition.

Alright, how would -you- define science?
 
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