Liberalism Without Illusions

Into the Night said:
I actually have, but repeating it is tiresome.

Now, for some odd reason, he thinks you are me. :laugh:

If you look at LeftNut's posts, you will find that he basically just posts random shit from a set list (updated when he hears someone use a phrase). It's like he rolls the dice to determine what to post next.

He can't remember what happened just twenty seconds ago.
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It's that i used the word fallacy. I really don't know why he doesn't hear it continuously from everyone he meets and reverberating in his head.
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LichGold said:
It's that i used the word fallacy. I really don't know why he doesn't hear it continuously from everyone he meets and reverberating in his head.
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He does hear it quite often, but not everyone learned logic. It's really not taught well in schools, and finding good books on the topic on your own can be quite difficult, even despite the number of programmers out there. Most of the logic illiteracy centers around set logic, not usually represented well in programming languages. I have found a fair number of programmers that don't even understand combinatoral logic. Many can't code their way out of a wet paper bag. Even AI can do a better job then they can do themselves.

Schools do a bit better job on mathematics, but it's really only basic stuff. There are a lot of people around that have no idea of even trigonometry, probability math, or statistical math. Casinos make a lot of money out of such people. Such are also susceptible to any random number quoted by the government as 'data'...something that governments do constantly. Like Las Vegas, they know they can take advantage of the mathematical illiteracy out there.

The word 'fallacy' DOES ring in their head. You can tell this because of the string of insults and mimicry whenever I call them on one that can last for months (insults without an argument is just a void, therefore a fallacy).

In the War Zone, you will find a thread called the Monthly Contest, which I run (though I havern't run it lately). I've explained the background to some fallacies in there. Occasionally, I also explain one when I call some idiot on it, but of course they deny it all. Such explanations are usually for others watching the thread and are willing to learn. As you can imagine, here on JPP, it's not that many.

So usually I just call them on the fallacy without further explanation. It's terse because I have to be so repetitive. You will often see me use a couple of acronyms:

LIF: Lame Inversion Fallacy. This is just an inversion fallacy that is particularly lame. Usually it forms when someone tries (badly) to mimic. It's the argument technique of a little child (around 3-5 yrs). The inversion fallacy itself is also called Projection. It is blaming their own problems upon another, effectively inverting the rolls. A LIF occurs when one simply trades words like an old Dr Psycho game to conduct the fallacy. I find this tends to occur more when I call them on an inversion fallacy in the first place, and they begin using this childish technique. (A->B = B->A)

RQAA: Repetitive Question Already Answered. This is exactly what it is. It often occurs when the answer is not liked by this type of idiot and they continually ask the question over and over. It's also a childish technique, similar to asking the other parent when the first one says No. The difference is they keep asking the SAME parent, trying to wear them down. You will find some users here particularly prone to this practice. It's a form of a repetition fallacy. (?A->A->A->A->A->A->A->A->A->...)

You seem willing to learn this stuff, so I will explain for you more often.
 
LichGold said:
It's literally completely avoided unless you join a debate team. Argumentum ad populum is the entire k-12 curriculum.
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There's a lot of truth to this these days. The K-12 curriculum in many States has been hijacked by Democrats to be indoctrination centers instead.
It's even worse in the SDTC.

Too many high school graduates are functionally illiterate.
 
Into the Night said:
There's a lot of truth to this these days. The K-12 curriculum in many States has been hijacked by Democrats to be indoctrination centers instead.
It's even worse in the SDTC.

Too many high school graduates are functionally illiterate.
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There's really not much reason to study spelling. You only need a basic understanding and ai can do all the coming with the nonsense. It free's up a lot of your mind for critical thinking. Im not so much into the indoctrination rhetoric. It's basically the only way to teach in a school setting. Negatively reinforced argumentum ad populum. It's believed that teaching you how to recognise and understand lies also teaches you how to avoid memorizing the nonsense they need you to memorise in order to get grades on standardized testing. If you know it's a heap of horse shit, you're not going to commit it to memory and it's going to fk with their stats. Every single word is just a reified argumentum ad populum fallacy of what it's meant to represent. We learn best when we're embarrassed and you're not embarrassed if you know it's horse shit what they're teaching you.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956098102001328636
View: https://x.com/deepwebslinger/status/1956098102001328636
 
LichGold said:
There's really not much reason to study spelling. You only need a basic understanding and ai can do all the coming with the nonsense. It free's up a lot of your mind for critical thinking. Im not so much into the indoctrination rhetoric. It's basically the only way to teach in a school setting. Negatively reinforced argumentum ad populum. It's believed that teaching you how to recognise and understand lies also teaches you how to avoid memorizing the nonsense they need you to memorise in order to get grades on standardized testing. If you know it's a heap of horse shit, you're not going to commit it to memory and it's going to fk with their stats. Every single word is just a reified argumentum ad populum fallacy of what it's meant to represent. We learn best when we're embarrassed and you're not embarrassed if you know it's horse shit what they're teaching you.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956098102001328636
View: https://x.com/deepwebslinger/status/1956098102001328636
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One must be cautious here. AI is fuckin' dumb. I have seen it choose an incorrect word before and I still do. It especially seems to have trouble with homophones and homonyms.

There are a variety of dictionaries to standardize spelling and even pronunciation. Use them. Expand your vocabulary. You only benefit as a result.
 
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