Should we repeal "Don't ask, don't tell?"

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She, apparently, flew off the handle because I asked her the question that damnyankeeman thinks the military should make a focal point for determining the fitness of a soldier. And she does so while defending damnyankeeman. That's completely illogical. I don't give a damn whether her brothers like BJs, her political ally does.

And I am sorry, but I don't really see the question as all that offensive. I don't really care a whole lot for locker room talk, but it is common among males and such a general question would not usually be seen as offensive. I get a little put off when people go in to too much detail, but a bj question is fairly tame in discussion that passes commonly between males.

Certainly, the question is not as offensive as if someone asked if you were gay. Biases against homosexuality are far greater than any bias one would face on the answer to BJs. I think, it's kind of weird to say no, but whatever works for you. I don't care.

This isn't a locker room. But since the guys on here treat it as such then they ought not to act like shocked pussies when a woman talks shit back at them.

You wanted to pipe in about my brothers in an irrelevent and crude manner to the discussion I merely made an equally crude and irrelevent come-back.
 
Can you say "Hypocrite"?

You talk as if you don't play the same shit and like you call people on all their vulgar and over-the-top comments.

What a joke.

Listen you old coot. I have never said I didn't. Wake up, smell the coffee, wipe the drool from your chin, and pay effin' attention.

I give it right back. I ignore it, and I give it the pass because I see the same thing here going on day in and day out.

You want to come after me, then bring it on. I challenge you to demonstrate where I have ever said I don't play the same shit.

Telling you ID holds up the mirror and joins in, JUST LIKE ALL YOUR BUDS, does not mean anything other than what it means.

You go right to the edge and then something pulls you back. That's when you pull $hit posts like this acting like you want to disenfranchise yourself from it all while you're sitting in the middle of the $hitstorm with a raincoat and hip waders on.
 
Field grunts don't have any more expertise on the overall morale of the big picture than anyone else. Field commanders and their higher-ups obviously have a better idea and they themselves are split on the matter.

WHat?

Are you trying to say that the field grunts don't know what will effect the morale of other field grunts? And that some officer in the pentagon has a better notion of it?

Ask your brothers about that.
 
WHat?

Are you trying to say that the field grunts don't know what will effect the morale of other field grunts? And that some officer in the pentagon has a better notion of it?

Ask your brothers about that.

I'm saying field grunts are field grunts for a reason...yeah! I am saying those who bear the responsibility for morale are the ones who carry a different kind of weight...yeah! I am saying that field grunts in every walk of life always think they have all the answers and bitch about the higher-ups as if...yeah!

My brothers? One is dead the other is against DADT...likley 'cause he's old school...and yeah he always bitched about higher-ups too!
 
I'm saying field grunts are field grunts for a reason...yeah! I am saying those who bear the responsibility for morale are the ones who carry a different kind of weight...yeah! I am saying that field grunts in every walk of life always think they have all the answers and bitch about the higher-ups as if...yeah!

My brothers? One is dead the other is against DADT...likley 'cause he's old school...and yeah he always bitched about higher-ups too!

There are plenty of things that the higher ups have a better grasp on, butthe morale of the field grunts is not one of them.

To ask an officer behind a desk and a marine in the field the same question gets you answers based on their viewpoint. In my opinion, the viewpoint of the man in the field is more valid on matters concerning how the men in the field feel.

Sorry about your brother.
 
Also, a lot of them are field grunts because they are new in the service.

There is no military reason not to allow gays in, and the newer ones would accept it as readily as they accept the shaved heads, fixation on polished shoes, and taking orders to risk their lives in the face of bad odds.
 
There are plenty of things that the higher ups have a better grasp on, butthe morale of the field grunts is not one of them.

To ask an officer behind a desk and a marine in the field the same question gets you answers based on their viewpoint. In my opinion, the viewpoint of the man in the field is more valid on matters concerning how the men in the field feel.

Sorry about your brother.

Did you miss the caveat of "field officers" as part of those in the know??? It is the job of field commanders to communicate to those "behind a desk". My point was the best people to make a decision are those whose job it is to know what's best for the men and women they are responsible for...that's where I come down on the whole matter...period. That said, I have no respect for the BS "you're a coward 'cause you didn't serve" crap!

Thanks for the condolences.
 
Did you miss the caveat of "field officers" as part of those in the know??? It is the job of field commanders to communicate to those "behind a desk". My point was the best people to make a decision are those whose job it is to know what's best for the men and women they are responsible for...that's where I come down on the whole matter...period. That said, I have no respect for the BS "you're a coward 'cause you didn't serve" crap!
Thanks for the condolences.

I didn't give SM shit because he didn't serve, and I have made that quite clear. Neither of my sons served either.

But they are also not prone to speaking out about wanting our military to be sent here and there, risking lives of americans for narrow-minded reasons. Nor have they tried to demean those who have served or try and sound like an expert on what the military should do.

If you will look around, there are numerous people on this board who didn't serve in the military. They don't catch flack from me for it.
 
I didn't give SM shit because he didn't serve, and I have made that quite clear. Neither of my sons served either.

But they are also not prone to speaking out about wanting our military to be sent here and there, risking lives of americans for narrow-minded reasons. Nor have they tried to demean those who have served or try and sound like an expert on what the military should do.

If you will look around, there are numerous people on this board who didn't serve in the military. They don't catch flack from me for it.

This thread is replete with you, soc, and billy doing exactly that! Denying it looks foolish.

Again, not serving does not equal cowardice nor does it prevent you from having an opinion...SM's anti-homosexual agenda is not a minority position. American's are all over the map depending on what the policy pertaining to homosexuals is. Many share his positions; many share yours; and many share mine...

Other posters don't catch flack until you decide they should, like you decided SM should...stupid argument.
 
He didn't get soundly whipped...he had like 4 fucking assholes carrying their BS from the new toy thread into this one with the singular intent to just fuck with him. Since there were like 4 of you and 1 of him I'd say he held his own quite well and then some. Of course I have first hand experience in this thread allowing ya'll to show what pussies you are. :gives:

LOL Ice Babe you've done some major whoop-ass on these pussies. :good4u:
 
This isn't a locker room. But since the guys on here treat it as such then they ought not to act like shocked pussies when a woman talks shit back at them.

Again, that might make sense except for the fact that your fellow retard, damnyankeeman, is constantly bringing up the subject by asking for this information from others. Apparently, he hopes to use it as an ad hom. That is, he asks for others to disclose information. His reasoning seems to be that if the person denies participation in the act then he has established the behavior is abnormal and if they admit to the act he can dismiss them as perverts. Neither conclusion is warranted, though.


What is funny here, is that he is the deviant on BJs.

It seems obvious to me that posters such as soc have used these invasive questions to have some fun with him and may imagine that he is shocked by the response. I don't know if he is shocked or if he gets a weird thrill out of it, but it is obvious that he is inviting and encouraging the discussion. He should not ask questions to which he does not wish to hear the response. If you are offended by the responses then maybe you should request that he not ask such stupid questions.


You wanted to pipe in about my brothers in an irrelevent and crude manner to the discussion I merely made an equally crude and irrelevent come-back.

You are an incredible hypocrite and a complete idiot. How was my question any more crude than those asked by damnyankeeman? The fact is, that it was not my question, but simply a repetition of his. The point of which was to show why a soldier might take offense at having the honor of his service called into question based on whether he likes BJs.

Because I was simply applying his criteria for determining the fitness of a soldier, it was obviously not irrelevant either.

There is no way that the question of whether one likes a bj, whether it came from me or damnyankeeman, was as crude as your response. I don't know what sort of math you are doing, but you have definitely made an error in that calculation. No worries, I don't really care much.

It is strange that you simultaneously seem to hold that your brothers are above such questions (to the point where you erupt into an irrational outburst and insult your own brothers) of whether they like BJs while you support questions of a much more sensitive nature as being a basis for determining the fitness of a soldier. Again, your buddy thinks the BJ question itself is important.
 
You are an incredible hypocrite and a complete idiot. How was my question any more crude than those asked by damnyankeeman? The fact is, that it was not my question, but simply a repetition of his. The point of which was to show why a soldier might take offense at having the honor of his service called into question based on whether he likes BJs.

Because I was simply applying his criteria for determining the fitness of a soldier, it was obviously not irrelevant either.

There is no way that the question of whether one likes a bj, whether it came from me or damnyankeeman, was as crude as your response. I don't know what sort of math you are doing, but you have definitely made an error in that calculation. No worries, I don't really care much.

It is strange that you simultaneously seem to hold that your brothers are above such questions (to the point where you erupt into an irrational outburst and insult your own brothers) of whether they like BJs while you support questions of a much more sensitive nature as being a basis for determining the fitness of a soldier. Again, your buddy thinks the BJ question itself is important.


How is saying they are too busy fucking your mother and letting you lick their dicks an outburst? It was a an equally irrelevent and crude response to the irrelevent and crude comment you made. My statement about my brothers was an inference with regards to those who serve and those who do not serve beinmg of equal value as American's. Your statment wanted to bring blow jobs into it.

It is extreme hubris is when men think that they are all about equality and yet when a woman uses language and humor that is crude the woman is having an "out burst" or is being too vulgar...f It's like uck off you hair splitting dork... I'm just hanging in the make-believe locker room you men seem to think this forum is.
 
How is saying they are too busy fucking your mother and letting you lick their dicks an outburst? It was a an equally irrelevent and crude response to the irrelevent and crude comment you made. My statement about my brothers was an inference with regards to those who serve and those who do not serve beinmg of equal value as American's. Your statment wanted to bring blow jobs into it.

It is extreme hubris is when men think that they are all about equality and yet when a woman uses language and humor that is crude the woman is having an "out burst" or is being too vulgar...f It's like uck off you hair splitting dork... I'm just hanging in the make-believe locker room you men seem to think this forum is.

Nonsense. You are wrong on both points. I told you I don't really care for locker room talk. I am also, not terribly offended by your comments. None of this has anything to do you being a female which I was not even aware of before. I don't like locker room from talk from guys but I don't get butt hurt, like you did, I just leave or block it out in some way.

Pretending that asking someone whether they like a BJ is as crude as your disgusting comments is pointless. No reasonable person would agree.

And again, if you don't like the locker room talk then maybe you should chastise the person that keeps bringing it up. It's your buddy, damnyankeeman, that is obsessed with invading the sex lives of others.
 
Nonsense. You are wrong on both points. I told you I don't really care for locker room talk. I am also, not terribly offended by your comments. None of this has anything to do you being a female which I was not even aware of before. I don't like locker room from talk from guys but I don't get butt hurt, like you did, I just leave or block it out in some way.

Pretending that asking someone whether they like a BJ is as crude as your disgusting comments is pointless. No reasonable person would agree.

And again, if you don't like the locker room talk then maybe you should chastise the person that keeps bringing it up. It's your buddy, damnyankeeman, that is obsessed with invading the sex lives of others.

None of what? My comment to you was a response about your blow job comment...period! You interjected yourself into my post about the value of an American who serves or does not serve...period. YOU made the exchange I was having with WB into blowjobs.

For someone who dislikes locker room talk you sure do get right in there hair splitter.

I have no problem with locker room talk so long as it's an equal opportunity locker room...my problem has always been with self delusional assholes who think they are enlightened.

As to not knowing I am a woman? Well for about 20 posts my vagina was a part of the converstaion. Perhaps you shouldn't get to be in the locker room at all ifin you don't know what a vagina represents...just sayin'


My post to WB:Originally Posted by Ice Dancer
Get the fuck over yourself you blow-hard dough-boy! I have 4 brothers 2 have served 2 have not. All 4 are solid good men. You have to brag about it you ain't fucking tuff or good.

Your post:Originally Posted by RStringfield
Do your brothers like blow jobs or are they sexual deviants like SM? If they like blow jobs, then SM just said they were too weak to have served honorably.

My post back to you:
Originally Posted by Ice Dancer
No, they are too busy fucking your mama and let you lick the cum off their dicks~~~

Your post back to me:Originally Posted by RStringfield
Dude, if you were not so busy sucking southernman's cock you might notice that he probably just insulted your brothers. I would imagine the two that served would take offense with his retarded comments, especially coming from someone who never bothered to serve.
 
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