White House says it contacted candidate about jobs

This is what the Republicans do. They trump up these dumbass nontroversies over and over and over again when normal people respond to their bullshit they chant "spin!" and "obfuscation!" It's stupid.

Hey, I am just watching the mainstream [liberal] media, repeatedly asking Robert Gibbs about these incidents and repeatedly being given the runaround, non-answer answers, double-speak, vague clarification, contradicting explanations, for months on end. Back during Watergate, we learned that it's not the crime, it's the cover-up... is that what's going on here? One has to wonder.... because if nothing illegal happened, why wouldn't they have answered the damn questions months ago? Why are we going to have to appoint an independent counsel to get to the bottom of this? If nothing wrong was done, why does Gibbs continue to dodge the questions?

.....Normal people? Yeah, that's who you need to be worried about here.
 
according to the law it is illegal, if it wasn't...why is obama spinning so furiously over his two incidents?

President Obama isn't the one doing the spinning...it's all you ravening RightWing crazies that are spinning like mad to try and make something out of this.
 
Hey, I am just watching the mainstream [liberal] media, repeatedly asking Robert Gibbs about these incidents and repeatedly being given the runaround, non-answer answers, double-speak, vague clarification, contradicting explanations, for months on end. Back during Watergate, we learned that it's not the crime, it's the cover-up... is that what's going on here? One has to wonder.... because if nothing illegal happened, why wouldn't they have answered the damn questions months ago? Why are we going to have to appoint an independent counsel to get to the bottom of this? If nothing wrong was done, why does Gibbs continue to dodge the questions?

.....Normal people? Yeah, that's who you need to be worried about here.


See what I mean.

Anyone find it completely fucking hilarious that these Republican jackasses always have to compare the most horriblest thing that Obama has done to Republican presidential scandals. I mean, you've got "Obama's Katrina" and now it's "Obama's Watergate" and so forth and so on.
 
See what I mean.

Anyone find it completely fucking hilarious that these Republican jackasses always have to compare the most horriblest thing that Obama has done to Republican presidential scandals. I mean, you've got "Obama's Katrina" and now it's "Obama's Watergate" and so forth and so on.

Yep. It's a bitch ain't it? :cof1:
 
If what Sestak said is true "I was offered a job to drop out of the race" then that IS illegal. There are no fine lines, politics as usual, or any of the other lame excuses being proffered. Either it happened or it didn't.

This year there is a political climate of "no more politics as usual" coming from the public. This is especially true since "The One" campaigned on "No more politics as usual"....


No, it isn't illegal. You pretend it's illegal. When Regan offered a primary candidate a job it wasn't illegal. When Karl Rove offered Ben Nelson a job it wasn't illegal. When Karl Rove offered Sunnunu a job it wasn't illegal.
 
See what I mean.

Anyone find it completely fucking hilarious that these Republican jackasses always have to compare the most horriblest thing that Obama has done to Republican presidential scandals. I mean, you've got "Obama's Katrina" and now it's "Obama's Watergate" and so forth and so on.

It's been tough times for the righties over the past few GOP admins - a lot of weight to carry around. It's all about payback now.
 
No, it isn't illegal. You pretend it's illegal. When Regan offered a primary candidate a job it wasn't illegal. When Karl Rove offered Ben Nelson a job it wasn't illegal. When Karl Rove offered Sunnunu a job it wasn't illegal.

Yes, if what Sestack claims is true it is, was, and unless the law changes always will be illegal...suck it up Nigel it won't hurt too bad~~~
 
It must not be illegal if Saint Ronald Reagan did it, and faced no repercussions.

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Yurt, I posted this not to to deflect your thread.

I posted this because it shows that this type of thing isn't illegal, even if you find it unsavory.

Reagan was never brought up on charges, and as far as I'm aware it was never even brought up to any extent by the media or by liberals.

So, I'm saying that your flogging a non-issue.

Unless, your position is that it is illegal when a Democrat does it.
 
Yes, if what Sestack claims is true it is, was, and unless the law changes always will be illegal...suck it up Nigel it won't hurt too bad~~~


Look, I'd love to play "is too, is not" with you, but I've got better things to do, like smash my hand with this here hammer.
 
Look, I'd love to play "is too, is not" with you, but I've got better things to do, like smash my hand with this here hammer.

Since you cannot show how what Sestack claims is not illegal, but offer only "they did it too's" then by all means you ought to go play with your hammer...but a good knock or two in your head might be a better application then your hand....just sayin'
 
Since you cannot show how what Sestack claims is not illegal, but offer only "they did it too's" then by all means you ought to go play with your hammer...but a good knock or two in your head might be a better application then your hand....just sayin'


I'm not merely offering they did it toos, I'm saying it isn't illegal. And former Attorney General Mike Mukasey agrees with me.
 
I'm not merely offering they did it toos, I'm saying it isn't illegal. And former Attorney General Mike Mukasey agrees with me.

this would be because the nature of 'our government', where WE are the government, therefore government can't be bad, those IN the government must indeed have violated the EXACT letter of the law in order for those IN government to be investigated or even impeached/convicted. But in OUR government, where WE are the government, therefore government cannot be 'bad', those of us not actually IN government only need to have been found to violate the 'spirit' of the law in question in order to face a dozen charges, spend ourselves in to bankruptcy to try to defend ourselves in OUR governments courts, or admit defeat in the face of OUR government and plead guilty to a crime we didn't commit if we had actually been IN the government.


so government is good, right?
 
I'm not merely offering they did it toos, I'm saying it isn't illegal. And former Attorney General Mike Mukasey agrees with me.

I DGAF who says it "isn't illegal" cuz I can post all sorts of legal experts who say it is...BFD! Again, when you can "prove" that interfering in a primary election by proffering a job isn't illegal...then you'll have something to actually say.

Obama met with Bill Clinton for a private lunch...can anyone say "let's get our story straight"...Now the story is "we did offer him an "unpaid" position BWAHAHAHAHA!

Obamascam ...Hope and change my ass!
 
I DGAF who says it "isn't illegal" cuz I can post all sorts of legal experts who say it is...BFD! Again, when you can "prove" that interfering in a primary election by proffering a job isn't illegal...then you'll have something to actually say.

Obama met with Bill Clinton for a private lunch...can anyone say "let's get our story straight"...Now the story is "we did offer him an "unpaid" position BWAHAHAHAHA!

Obamascam ...Hope and change my ass!


Why is the burden on me to "prove" it isn't illegal? I mean, can you cite to a single instance of someone at any time ever being convicted or even indicted under this law for offering a job of someone contemplating a primary run?

The fact of the matter is that your interpretation of this law is something new and novel and it is not incumbent on me to show that the types of things that presidents have done for decades is not illegal.
 
President Obama isn't the one doing the spinning...it's all you ravening RightWing crazies that are spinning like mad to try and make something out of this.

LMAO... You obviously missed Robert Gibbs' press conference yesterday... he was dancing around on the head of a pin like a marionette. The SPIN is coming from the Chicago-style THUGS who are in charge... the media continues to ask questions and get no answers... the people are growing quite restless.
 
Why is the burden on me to "prove" it isn't illegal? I mean, can you cite to a single instance of someone at any time ever being convicted or even indicted under this law for offering a job of someone contemplating a primary run?

The fact of the matter is that your interpretation of this law is something new and novel and it is not incumbent on me to show that the types of things that presidents have done for decades is not illegal.

You really can twist up a piece of non-sense when grasping a straw.

Having no one charged under a law before DOES NOT mean shit except that no one has ever been charged under it before! DUH!!!

Is this your argument nigel...really??? We have never used it so why start now...bwahahahahaha! Like maybe because it's just fucking time to hold these lying manipulative MF'rs to account!

See your fucking argument IS "they did it too's"...you suck!
 
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You really can twist up a piece of non-sense when grasping a straw.

Having no one charged under a law before DOES NOT mean shit except that no one has ever been charged uner it before! DUH!!!

Is this your argument nigel...really??? We have never used it so why start now...bwahahahahaha! Like maybe because it's just fucking time to hold these lying manipulative MF'rs to account!

See your fucking argument IS "they did it too's"...you suck!


No, my argument isn't they did it toos. My argument is that this has never been considered a criminal act by anyone anywhere until Darrel Issa and his ilk decided they wanted to gin up a nontroversy. And they took you hook, line and sinker.
 
Why is the burden on me to "prove" it isn't illegal? I mean, can you cite to a single instance of someone at any time ever being convicted or even indicted under this law for offering a job of someone contemplating a primary run?

The fact of the matter is that your interpretation of this law is something new and novel and it is not incumbent on me to show that the types of things that presidents have done for decades is not illegal.

No, my argument isn't they did it toos. My argument is that this has never been considered a criminal act by anyone anywhere until Darrel Issa and his ilk decided they wanted to gin up a nontroversy. And they took you hook, line and sinker.

# On November 18, 2008, Vanderburgh County, Indiana Commission President Jeff Korb filed an injunction against Steven Melcher, who defeated Korb in the November 4, 2008 general election, citing the Hatch Act. Melcher is the facilities manager for the Community Action Program of Evansville (CAPE). CAPE is an agency that administers Head Start, LIHEAP heating assistance and Section 8 housing assistance among other federally-funded programs in a three-county area of southwestern Indiana. [1]
# On October 6, 2008, federal investigators announced that they were investigating Sheriff Mike Scott of Lee County, Florida for possible violations of the Hatch Act. The previous day, Sheriff Scott spoke, in uniform, on stage, at a rally for presidential candidate John McCain.[2][3]
# On May 6, 2008, FBI agents raided Scott Bloch's offices. NPR and the Wall Street Journal reported that the raids were in relation to an investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice by Bloch's office. [1] The New York Times reported that the investigation concerned whether Bloch had hired an outside company to "scrub" computer files to prevent an inquiry into whether he had violated the Hatch Act by mixing politics with his job, which is to shield whistleblowers.[4]
# In November 2007, Terre Haute, Indiana mayor Kevin Burke challenged the candidacy of then-mayor-elect Duke Bennett under provisions of the Act. In November 2008, the Indiana Court of Appeals ruled that Bennett, who took office after a Vigo County, Indiana judge ruled that he was eligible to serve, was ineligible under the terms of the Act. The ruling is nonbinding, pending Bennett's appeal to the Indiana Supreme Court.
# In June 2007, Lurita Alexis Doan, then Administrator of the General Services Administration, was found by the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC) of violating the Hatch Act when she took part in a video conference with Karl Rove and other White House officials, and sent letters asking how to help Republican politicians get elected, and was accused by Special Counsel Scott Bloch of lying to deliberately mislead investigators.[5]
# In 2006, the Utah Democratic Party challenged the candidacy of Ogden City Police Chief Jon Greiner for State Senate. The challenge was upheld by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel because the year prior the Ogden City Police Department received a federal grant to help pay for bullet proof vests. Jon Greiner appealed the decision, remained on the ballot, and won election. He now serves as a Utah State Senator while the results of the appeal are unknown.[6]
# On about July 29, 2004, the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC) cited the Hatch Act while ordering NASA to remove photos of Senator John Kerry taken during his visit to the Kennedy Space Center. The OSC later gave a press release stating that Kerry's visit did not violate the act.[7]
 
# On November 18, 2008, Vanderburgh County, Indiana Commission President Jeff Korb filed an injunction against Steven Melcher, who defeated Korb in the November 4, 2008 general election, citing the Hatch Act. Melcher is the facilities manager for the Community Action Program of Evansville (CAPE). CAPE is an agency that administers Head Start, LIHEAP heating assistance and Section 8 housing assistance among other federally-funded programs in a three-county area of southwestern Indiana. [1]
# On October 6, 2008, federal investigators announced that they were investigating Sheriff Mike Scott of Lee County, Florida for possible violations of the Hatch Act. The previous day, Sheriff Scott spoke, in uniform, on stage, at a rally for presidential candidate John McCain.[2][3]
# On May 6, 2008, FBI agents raided Scott Bloch's offices. NPR and the Wall Street Journal reported that the raids were in relation to an investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice by Bloch's office. [1] The New York Times reported that the investigation concerned whether Bloch had hired an outside company to "scrub" computer files to prevent an inquiry into whether he had violated the Hatch Act by mixing politics with his job, which is to shield whistleblowers.[4]
# In November 2007, Terre Haute, Indiana mayor Kevin Burke challenged the candidacy of then-mayor-elect Duke Bennett under provisions of the Act. In November 2008, the Indiana Court of Appeals ruled that Bennett, who took office after a Vigo County, Indiana judge ruled that he was eligible to serve, was ineligible under the terms of the Act. The ruling is nonbinding, pending Bennett's appeal to the Indiana Supreme Court.
# In June 2007, Lurita Alexis Doan, then Administrator of the General Services Administration, was found by the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC) of violating the Hatch Act when she took part in a video conference with Karl Rove and other White House officials, and sent letters asking how to help Republican politicians get elected, and was accused by Special Counsel Scott Bloch of lying to deliberately mislead investigators.[5]
# In 2006, the Utah Democratic Party challenged the candidacy of Ogden City Police Chief Jon Greiner for State Senate. The challenge was upheld by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel because the year prior the Ogden City Police Department received a federal grant to help pay for bullet proof vests. Jon Greiner appealed the decision, remained on the ballot, and won election. He now serves as a Utah State Senator while the results of the appeal are unknown.[6]
# On about July 29, 2004, the United States Office of Special Counsel (OSC) cited the Hatch Act while ordering NASA to remove photos of Senator John Kerry taken during his visit to the Kennedy Space Center. The OSC later gave a press release stating that Kerry's visit did not violate the act.[7]



Ok, which of those involved discussing administration jobs with a potential primary candidate.
 
No, my argument isn't they did it toos. My argument is that this has never been considered a criminal act by anyone anywhere until Darrel Issa and his ilk decided they wanted to gin up a nontroversy. And they took you hook, line and sinker.

No, your argument IS "they did it too's" You are just parsing with "no ones ever been charged under the law before". Newsflash nigel...that's the same fucking argument!

The Fact of the matter is this president said "no more DC politics as usual". He has pissed off the electorate with his HCB, stance on AZ immigration law, his politicizing of an industrial disaster and his over-all condescending fucking attitude....and now he once again gets caught playing his Chicago politics and then wants to play the "hey everyone does it card"...
The law is clear...the law was broken...and it looks like more than once, I hope it is investigated and that people are charged.
 
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