The Deep State is Alive and Well, Selling the Same Old Lie: "Sources and Methods" | Matt Taibbi

Scott said:
I favour what makes the most sense. What she's saying resonates with what various journalists I've been reading from have been saying for the past few years. Because she's a part of the federal government, she's been able to reveal more information than journalists were capable of doing on their own as well.



Absolute balderdash- he's a beacon of hope, shining light on the corruption inherent in the U.S. healthcare system as much as he's able.
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Scott, you’re comedy gold in my opinion, especially you’re seeing Kennedy as a beacon of hope and denying viruses exist.

You dwell in a realm of conspiracies and I for one can’t have a conversation with you because it’s so outlandish.

I wish you well, but I don’t suffer fools.
 
TravisBickle said:
I don't think that Trump has damaging information in there but there may be others who are associated with the administration or those who Trump wants to "persuade" to go along with his agenda who are.
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I think there's damaging information in there, but I admit I certainly don't have -proof-. I'm certainly not always a fan of politifact.com, but in this case, I think an article they did on this question is decent. It can be seen here:
www.politifact.com

What are the Epstein files and is Donald Trump in them?

An online fight between President Donald Trump and former adviser Elon Musk started over the One Big Beautiful Bill and led to Musk saying Trump “is in the Epstein files,” without citing evidence.
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com

As to the possibility that others associated with the administration/those who Trump wants to persuade to go along with his agenda, that's certainly possible too.
 
Based Chad said:
no its basically the same stuff, in many ways.

a slighty better future for some Americans for a while is all.

maybe the best thing is to just go peacefully on condition of universal jubilee.
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You surrender to fascism, I don’t want to live in the USAR
 
I hate liking scotts post.


Jimmy dore joke:


"what do we want?"

"incremental change!"

"when do we want it?"

"whenever is convenient for you!"
 
Phantasmal said:
Scott said:
I favour what makes the most sense. What she's saying resonates with what various journalists I've been reading from have been saying for the past few years. Because she's a part of the federal government, she's been able to reveal more information than journalists were capable of doing on their own as well.

Absolute balderdash- he's a beacon of hope, shining light on the corruption inherent in the U.S. healthcare system as much as he's able.
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Scott, you’re comedy gold in my opinion, especially you’re seeing Kennedy as a beacon of hope and denying viruses exist.

You dwell in a realm of conspiracies and I for one can’t have a conversation with you because it’s so outlandish.

I wish you well, but I don’t suffer fools.
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Your response reminds me of something David Ray Griffin, a former American professor of philosophy and religion, once said:
**
A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.
**

So you're basically denouncing me as a blasphemer and moving on. That's certainly your choice to make.
 
Based Chad said:
I just have a feeling its gonna just be another epstein file disappointment.

deep state, what deep state?

obama invented the deep state and put my picture in in the folio.

honestly,

we've all been made fools of.

Fools have been made of us all.

is 'us all' a redundant idiocy?

Fools have been made of we.

that's it.

A.I. in action.

The coolest A.I. Name is John Henry A.I.
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The Epstein "disappointment" is a completely different matter. It still shocks me that people thought there would be damning evidence that would bring down many of the sick democrats after the Biden administration had the files for 4 years. The only reason that we have the information that we do concerning Russia Gate. Is They lucked out, the most damaging information was found in n burn bags within the FBI’s J. Edgar Hoover Building intended for destruction, opps.
 
Scott said:
Your response reminds me of something David Ray Griffin, a former American professor of philosophy and religion, once said:
**
A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.
**

So you're basically denouncing me as a blasphemer and moving on. That's certainly your choice to make.
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I see you more as a conspiracy theorist than a blasphemer.
 
Tobytone said:
The Epstein "disappointment" is a completely different matter. It still shocks me that people thought there would be damning evidence that would bring down many of the sick democrats after the Biden administration had the files for 4 years. The only reason that we have the information that we do concerning Russia Gate. Is They lucked out, the most damaging information was found in n burn bags within the FBI’s J. Edgar Hoover Building intended for destruction, opps.
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it's a related matter.

yep.

luck.
 
Scott said:
Your response reminds me of something David Ray Griffin, a former American professor of philosophy and religion, once said:
**
A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.
**

So you're basically denouncing me as a blasphemer and moving on. That's certainly your choice to make.
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she doesn't see the difference between you and me.

I say things you can't say, but we both want to avoid bloodshed.
 
Phantasmal said:
Scott, you’re comedy gold in my opinion, especially you’re seeing Kennedy as a beacon of hope and denying viruses exist.

You dwell in a realm of conspiracies and I for one can’t have a conversation with you because it’s so outlandish.

I wish you well, but I don’t suffer fools.
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why do you fully trust Pfizer, proctor and gamble, Kraft, and Monsanto?
 
TravisBickle said:
I don't think that Trump has damaging information in there but there may be others who are associated with the administration or those who Trump wants to "persuade" to go along with his agenda who are.
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Like who?

The reason they aren't dumping all the files is that they figured out quite quickly that the Democrats had destroyed any damaging information regarding the many sick and twisted Democrats and filled the files with a bunch of nonsense as reliable as the Steele dossier.

Fully aware that Trump would be so transparent, they couldn't wait for him to release these files. It doesn't matter that every one of the little stories they put in the files would have been completely discredited; their base would have believed every word, and if by chance they won in the midterms, it would be the basis for another sham impeachment trial. As we all know, facts and truth mean nothing to these people.
 
Scott said:
If you're suggesting that nothing major will change due to Tulsi Gabbard's revelations, you may be right. However, that doesn't change the fact that there's a real story here. I also think the Epstein files thing is important too. In that case, it looks like Trump's covering it up because he's in them.
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Taibbi is a real journalist - and there are less than a handful of those around the globe. He split with Rolling Stone because they became a tabloid hate rag that didn't bother to vet stories, as long as the stories promoted the agenda of the party.

He may be a lefty - but Matt is honest and reports the facts, letting the story go wherever the facts take it.
 
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