Black Cyclist Arrested After Shooting White Man Who Attacked Him First in Mississippi
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First it is for a prosecutor to decide. Given that the police says there is no evidence against Butler....
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Wait...I thought u Libs were against Stand You Ground...
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So the law they want to repeal may have saved this black mans life....THATS RICH
NAACP, Democrats file lawsuit over new “stand your ground” law
Two Democratic lawmakers and the NAACP filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to overturn a recently passed “stand your ground” law, which removes Ohioans’ legal duty to try to retreat before responding to a perceived attack with deadly force.Repealing "Stand Your Ground" Type Laws, Protecting Black Americans and Honoring the Life of Trayvon Martin
Repealing "Stand Your Ground" Type Laws, Protecting Black Americans and Honoring the Life of Trayvon Martin
The NAACP call for the federal review of state "Stand Your Ground" laws to include racially disaggregated data in regards to the race, ethnicity and gender of the perpetrator and the victim of the "self defense" homicide.
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So the law they want to repeal may have saved this black mans life....THATS RICH
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volsrocks
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But Zimmerman didnt have a right to carry a gun and use it to shoot someone that attacked him
Libs say Zimm was looking for trouble when he walked around with a gun and that he could have just left
Well so could have this guy
Butler did not start anything with anyone. He did not chase anyone. He quietly rode his bike, while being Black.
Nope. There's this thing called a Grand Jury. They can take lies and bullshit to get an indictment without evidence.
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I say it should be legal, but it wasn't the wisest decision in the world.
volsrocks
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And Zimmerman didn't start anything, he had every right to be where he was...just like this guy did
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And neither did Kyle.
There is an old saying that a Grand Jury would indict a ham sandwich, but that assumes that the prosecutor asks for an indictment of a ham sandwich. This case is a slam dunk for a defense, so I doubt the prosecutor would even try to push an indictment. It just makes the prosecutor look bad to lose a case like this.
There are two ways for the prosecutor to avoid having to go to court over this, and losing. First is to just drop charges. The prosecutor can refuse to present the case to the grand jury, and everyone can go home. The second is a little more subtle. The prosecutor choses the evidence to be provided to the grand jury. He can just chose evidence that will assure that Butler is not indicted.
Rittenhouse traveled to another state to engage with protestors. He, like Butler at the first incident, never bothered to call the police. But Butler had not committed any violence at the first incident, so was not covering up violence he had committed.
The fact Butler was attacked by two different groups of white men in such a short period, solely for being Black, gives him a good reason to not trust the police. When he did finally have to shoot someone in self defense, he stuck around for the police.
Zimmerman did chase Martin in a car. The two would never have come into contact, except for that.
There can be physical evidence, or witness evidence, but no evidence is not acceptable. If there is no proof, there can be no case.
Name one thing that Kyle did that was illegal.
You absolutely do not know what started the first fight. If you do then provide your proof. They have black police too. If he did not trust the police why did he stick around for the police?
There is evidence he shot an unarmed man after he went back to confront him.
Proof?
The police have stated their investigation has shown that the whites were the aggressors in both incidents, and that Butler was not the aggressor in either.
Black Cyclist In Mississippi Arrested After Shooting White Man Who Attacked Him: What About 'Stand Your Ground'?
Reginald Butler was charged with felony aggravated assault and has since been released on $50,000 bond.
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The second attacker was not involved with the first attack, so Buttler did not go back to confront him. Patten(the second attacker) was apparently unarmed, but he did attack Butler, so in the state of Mississippi was fair game.
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I provided proof already, several times. Would you like to provide some proof?
The simple fact is that Butler was attacked by a group of white men for simply riding a bike while being Black. He decided to retrieve a legal gun for his safety moving forward. Then he was attacked by a second group of white men for simply riding a bike while being Black.
This is a victory for gun rights. But we all know that many gun rights supporters are not really gun rights supporters. They do not want a Black man using a gun to defend himself.
SO??? You said: "The fact Butler was attacked by two different groups of white men in such a short period, solely for being Black"
I agree that the people that first attacked Butler are White and Butler is Black but you HAVE ZERO PROOF that they attacked him "solely for being Black" They make have thought Butler stole from them or took a girlfriend or any number of other reasons.
Not if you went there to fight. The testimony of the person that loaned him the gun may be useful to determine motive.Black Cyclist In Mississippi Arrested After Shooting White Man Who Attacked Him: What About 'Stand Your Ground'?
Reginald Butler was charged with felony aggravated assault and has since been released on $50,000 bond.
The second attacker was not involved with the first attack, so Buttler did not go back to confront him. Patten(the second attacker) was apparently unarmed, but he did attack Butler, so in the state of Mississippi was fair game.
Walt Walt Walt do you have ANY proof to the White guys motive? Maybe they thought Butler was a thief or that he stole one of their girlfriends. Maybe they those he defaced one of their cars. Simply put neither you are our know why they were pissed at him.
You can't go back to a place intent on resuming a fight. In Texas that would eliminate your self defense claim.
This is sensitive enough that I suspect the DA will want the grand jury to make the call. That way the DA can say "I tried" if the grand jury lets him off.
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Such white aggrievement