Can't you just feel the greatness of America?

[T. A. Gardner]

Even after 5 years, I still don't understand how anyone signs up for a political discussion board who doesn't have an 8th grade understanding of political philosophy. Most Americans are relatively stupid, but JPP's MAGAts are the dumbest of the dumbs who have ever dumbed a dumb fucking day in their worthless lives. @Earl, fascism and communism are on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Read a book, you fucking barnacle.

Maybe you should do some introspection there. All you seem to do with my posts is give me the finger. That pretty much 6th grade little kid anger if you ask me. It also shows you to be relatively stupid and the dumbest of the dumbs that have every dumbed a dumb fucking day in your worthless life.

If fascism and communism are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, then show us the opposite characteristics of the two that make that true.

And, rather than you answering that, I expect you to give me the finger for this post too. Some loser you are.

 

[Diesel]

Maybe you should do some introspection there. All you seem to do with my posts is give me the finger. That pretty much 6th grade little kid anger if you ask me. It also shows you to be relatively stupid and the dumbest of the dumbs that have every dumbed a dumb fucking day in your worthless life.

If fascism and communism are on opposite sides of the political spectrum, then show us the opposite characteristics of the two that make that true.

And, rather than you answering that, I expect you to give me the finger for this post too. Some loser you are.

I don't think you want to do that. I have a degree in political science. I understand that Americans will say whatever the fuck pops into their minds at any given moment, but there are few people in this forum who can have an intellectual conversation about political philosophy.

Communism: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Fascism: The state must gain glory through constant conquest and war. The past was glorious, and the State can be renewed.

Communism: A communist society is stateless, classless, and governed directly by the people.
Fascism: One charismatic leader has absolute authority.

I could go on and on and on since I've studied this for many years, but I'm not going to waste our time. I don't think you're an uneducated person, but you are exceptionally stupid. You're a MAGAt, and that's all I need to disqualify you from civil discussion. Don't fuck with me, Terry.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don't think you want to do that. I have a degree in political science. I understand that Americans will say whatever the fuck pops into their minds at any given moment, but there are few people in this forum who can have an intellectual conversation about political philosophy.

So what? Poly sci is the simplest liberal art there is. You understand nothing and probably were made stupid by your professors. If anything, your background puts you at a disadvantage.

Communism: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Fascism: The state must gain glory through constant conquest and war. The past was glorious, and the State can be renewed.

That's just argument from anecdote. That explains nothing about either, not to mention you're wrong. For example, Franco in Spain was a fascist government and did nothing after the Spanish Civil War towards conquest and war. Pinochet in Chile is another example. A third is Peron in Argentina. So, on that one, you are full of shit.

Communism: A communist society is stateless, classless, and governed directly by the people.
Fascism: One charismatic leader has absolute authority.

Show me a Communist state that did that. Stalin, Lenin? How about Mao? Ho Chi Mein? Castro? The Kim Jong family? All are dictatorships whether with a single leader (usual) or a committee (say, the Terror of Paris).

I could go on and on and on since I've studied this for many years, but I'm not going to waste our time. I don't think you're an uneducated person, but you are exceptionally stupid. You're a MAGAt, and that's all I need to disqualify you from civil discussion. Don't fuck with me, Terry.

You have studied until it made you stupid. Don't waste MY time.

I see governments and place them on a three-axis graph from 0 to 10 if you will of all possible government / societal arrangements:

X axis = Degree of government control. 0 = anarchy or no government. 10 = absolute dictatorship with one-person rule.
Y axis = How the economy is run. 0 = barter. Everyone makes their own rules about trade. 10 = command economy. One or a few decide everything.
z axis = How society sees people 0 = individual. Everyone is in it for themselves and makes their own rules. 10 = Absolute dictatorship. The ruler decides everything and what matters is society as a whole.

Now, I get that's not what the idiot savants you studied under told you but they're version, like yours, is full of shit. You see, my version looks at what a government does and how they do it rather than assigning a label and then trying to define it.

So, governments on the Left politically tend towards 10 on all three axes while governments (or the lack thereof) on the Right tend towards 0. Sure, any realistic government is somewhere between about a 5 and a 10, but that doesn't negate or change the concept.

In my version, both communism and fascism have:

A command economy run by the ruling minority of government. the masses have little or no say in what gets produced.
Both have dictators or a junta running the government, usually not elected by the masses or elected in sham elections that are meaningless.
In both, the individual is irrelevant and what matters is society as a whole.

Both are hard on the Left.

 

[Diesel]

So what? Poly sci is the simplest liberal art there is. You understand nothing and probably were made stupid by your professors. If anything, your background puts you at a disadvantage.


That's just argument from anecdote. That explains nothing about either, not to mention you're wrong. For example, Franco in Spain was a fascist government and did nothing after the Spanish Civil War towards conquest and war. Pinochet in Chile is another example. A third is Peron in Argentina. So, on that one, you are full of shit.


Show me a Communist state that did that. Stalin, Lenin? How about Mao? Ho Chi Mein? Castro? The Kim Jong family? All are dictatorships whether with a single leader (usual) or a committee (say, the Terror of Paris).

You have studied until it made you stupid. Don't waste MY time.

I see governments and place them on a three-axis graph from 0 to 10 if you will of all possible government / societal arrangements:

X axis = Degree of government control. 0 = anarchy or no government. 10 = absolute dictatorship with one-person rule.
Y axis = How the economy is run. 0 = barter. Everyone makes their own rules about trade. 10 = command economy. One or a few decide everything.
z axis = How society sees people 0 = individual. Everyone is in it for themselves and makes their own rules. 10 = Absolute dictatorship. The ruler decides everything and what matters is society as a whole.

Now, I get that's not what the idiot savants you studied under told you but they're version, like yours, is full of shit. You see, my version looks at what a government does and how they do it rather than assigning a label and then trying to define it.

So, governments on the Left politically tend towards 10 on all three axes while governments (or the lack thereof) on the Right tend towards 0. Sure, any realistic government is somewhere between about a 5 and a 10, but that doesn't negate or change the concept.

In my version, both communism and fascism have:

A command economy run by the ruling minority of government. the masses have little or no say in what gets produced.
Both have dictators or a junta running the government, usually not elected by the masses.
In both, the individual is irrelevant and what matters is society as a whole.

Both are hard on the Left.

I'm not gonna lie. I didn't read your mess of words. You can make up your own political spectrum, but no one in academia has ever heard of you. Leave political analysis to those of us who understand political science.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I'm not gonna lie. I didn't read your mess of words. You can make up your own political spectrum, but no one in academia has ever heard of you. Leave political analysis to those of us who understand political science.

Of course you didn't. You have no realistic hope of making a valid, reasoned, factual counter argument to what I posted.

Why should I leave anything to morons, like you, that think you know it all when you can't even defend your own arguments?

(that is, you made an irrelevant appeal to authority fallacy). So, keep tossing the finger because that's all you've got. You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper sack on this.

 

[Diesel]

Of course you didn't. You have no realistic hope of making a valid, reasoned, factual counter argument to what I posted.

Why should I leave anything to morons, like you, that think you know it all when you can't even defend your own arguments?

I don't know what to tell you. Communists are not fascists. Someone in your alt reich media circle told you that. It fits your warped narrative, so you regurgitate it like the idiot you are.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I don't know what to tell you. Communists are not fascists. Someone in your alt reich media circle told you that. It fits your warped narrative, so you regurgitate it like the idiot you are.

Of course you don't. You have no concept or knowledge of what you're talking about beyond parroting the stupidity you were fed in college. I presented an argument that I know you haven't seen before and that's got you totally flummoxed.

 

[Diesel]

Of course you don't. You have no concept or knowledge of what you're talking about beyond parroting the stupidity you were fed in college. I presented an argument that I know you haven't seen before and that's got you totally flummoxed.

You didn't present an argument. You pulled a made up theory out of your ass and posted it on JPP like anyone gives a fuck. The political spectrum is taught to millions of students every year. Your denial of education is simply a characteristic of belonging to a cult that will shrivel and die during the rest of your short and wasted lifetime.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You didn't present an argument. You pulled a made up theory out of your ass and posted it on JPP like anyone gives a fuck. The political spectrum is taught to millions of students every year. Your denial of education is simply a characteristic of belonging to a cult that will shrivel and die during the rest of your short and wasted lifetime.

Now comes the ad hominem and insults...

Somebody that actually knew stuff could post a reasoned counter argument to what I posted. You? Not a chance armed with nothing but a worthless poly sci degree. Come on, actually try!

 

[Diesel]

Now comes the ad hominem and insults...

Somebody that actually knew stuff could post a reasoned counter argument to what I posted. You? Not a chance armed with nothing but a worthless poly sci degree. Come on, actually try!

I already posted my counterargument. You don't know anything about political philosophy. You say whatever you want and present it as fact because you're not educated and "feel" like you know better than the experts. I'm unimpressed.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I already posted my counterargument. You don't know anything about political philosophy. You say whatever you want and present it as fact because you're not educated and "feel" like you know better than the experts. I'm unimpressed.

Irrelevant appeal to authority, of which you have none. Presenting a one-sentence answer and then saying something a banal and irrelevant as "Communists are not fascists" is beyond stupid.

You're the one claiming expertise and yet, you can't even string together two paragraphs that explain the why communism and fascism are polar opposites.

 

[Diesel]

Irrelevant appeal to authority, of which you have none. Presenting a one-sentence answer and then saying something a banal and irrelevant as "Communists are not fascists" is beyond stupid.

You're the one claiming expertise and yet, you can't even string together two paragraphs that explain the why communism and fascism are polar opposites.

I already did.

 

[anonymoose]

So what? Poly sci is the simplest liberal art there is. You understand nothing and probably were made stupid by your professors. If anything, your background puts you at a disadvantage.


That's just argument from anecdote. That explains nothing about either, not to mention you're wrong. For example, Franco in Spain was a fascist government and did nothing after the Spanish Civil War towards conquest and war. Pinochet in Chile is another example. A third is Peron in Argentina. So, on that one, you are full of shit.


Show me a Communist state that did that. Stalin, Lenin? How about Mao? Ho Chi Mein? Castro? The Kim Jong family? All are dictatorships whether with a single leader (usual) or a committee (say, the Terror of Paris).

You have studied until it made you stupid. Don't waste MY time.

I see governments and place them on a three-axis graph from 0 to 10 if you will of all possible government / societal arrangements:

X axis = Degree of government control. 0 = anarchy or no government. 10 = absolute dictatorship with one-person rule.
Y axis = How the economy is run. 0 = barter. Everyone makes their own rules about trade. 10 = command economy. One or a few decide everything.
z axis = How society sees people 0 = individual. Everyone is in it for themselves and makes their own rules. 10 = Absolute dictatorship. The ruler decides everything and what matters is society as a whole.

Now, I get that's not what the idiot savants you studied under told you but they're version, like yours, is full of shit. You see, my version looks at what a government does and how they do it rather than assigning a label and then trying to define it.

So, governments on the Left politically tend towards 10 on all three axes while governments (or the lack thereof) on the Right tend towards 0. Sure, any realistic government is somewhere between about a 5 and a 10, but that doesn't negate or change the concept.

In my version, both communism and fascism have:

A command economy run by the ruling minority of government. the masses have little or no say in what gets produced.
Both have dictators or a junta running the government, usually not elected by the masses or elected in sham elections that are meaningless.
In both, the individual is irrelevant and what matters is society as a whole.

Both are hard on the Left.

Excellent analysis and well put.
We just don’t get something so well thought out on a site like this very often.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I already did.

And, we now know where you got your "degree."

 

[Diesel]

And, we now know where you got your "degree."

I have 3 degrees and a teaching certificate. They all came from a very good school. You're an idiot, Terry. I know you're mad about it, but I am not obligated to spend my very expensive education on a JPP MAGAt who invented political theories and reorders the political spectrum as if anyone in the world gives the tiniest fuck about your personal opinion. Academia exists, and it overrules your delusions.

 

[TOP]

@T. A. Gardner....very nicely done...

 

[Lionfish]

Diesel has more issues than a NYC magazine rack.

 

[TOP]

Diesel has more issues than a NYC magazine rack.

Love love love #135

 

[martin]

He was privy to it and facilitated the management in their conspiracy to hire HUNDREDS of illegals.

The term is "undocumented". They've been here for decades by the many thousands, part of the fabric of the country. Only now, only because of Trump, is it changing and changing in a bad way both for them and the country.

 

[TOP]

When it comes to immigration the fabric of our country are those people who love and respect America enough to take the time and energy to follow the rules.