Federal Agents Spray Tear Gas at Protesters, Children During ICE Raids at California Farms | Common Dreams

[Dutch Uncle]

Don’t want to get brutalized? Then don’t attack law enforcement officers, you brain-dead morons. Weren’t you the same hypocrites wailing about the sacred rule of never touching a cop after January 6th, acting like you’d faint at the thought?

I lost count of how many times you sanctimonious drones preached that sermon. But now, it’s open season, attack, beat, shoot, dox, even kill, and you morons are cheering like it’s a reality show finale.

Hypocrisy from you drones? I’m shocked, said absolutely no one. Keep flipping your principles like a cheap burger, it’s almost as pathetic as your logic.

Did you ever take the oath to support and defend the Constitution, Toby? If so, do you abide by that oath?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Have you been there and seen it for yourself?????

Burden of proof fallacy. I named the owner of the farm. They were growing marijuana and everybody, them, the state, the feds, everybody says they were. The growing and sale of marijuana is a federal crime.

21 U.S. Code § 841 - Prohibited acts A

www.law.cornell.edu

Federal Laws for Possession of Weed and Distribution of Marijuana Charges

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Everybody admits that there were children ("unaccompanied minors") working on the farm, the only variation is exactly how many.

I don't have to go there to know those are the facts in this case.

 

[Scott]

Well, it is Common Dreams, about as radical Left as you can get.

I notice that Ms. Conley's article omits several crucial facts and overstates others.

First, judging from all the video, and there's a lot of it, there were dozens of protesters, not "hundreds" as Ms. Conley claims and there was never a "crowd" of them present.

She omits that the farm operation was illegally growing marijuana and that they were using child labor. So, you had illegal immigrant farm workers working on an illegal (eg., criminal) drug growing operation.

She omits that one of the protesters fired a pistol at the ICE agents and that others physically attacked them and their vehicles with rocks, and handheld improvised weapons. All of those actions are serious, violent, felonies.

She omits that being a Representative does not automatically entitle you to participate in federal law enforcement operations nor does it allow you to interfere with them. Claiming you are conducting "Oversight" doesn't cut it particularly when what you really intend is to interfere.

On the whole, it's about what I would expect from a site sympathetic to, and even supportive of, criminal aliens illegally in the United States engaged in criminal activity.

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

 

[Scott]

No, I just prefer it when people back up their claims.

Do you?

Yes.

I'm sure you would have been shocked and finally understood the democrats are supporting criminals and child exploitation, right?

You may find another thread I started today to be educational as to my views on many key democrats and republicans:

Thread 'Trump, Epstein and the Deep State | Chris Hedges'

Yesterday at 6:41 PM

Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by...

• Scott
• bill gates chris hedges deep state donald trump epstein fbi fbi deputy director dan bongino fbi director kash patel pam bondi prince andrew
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Politics Forum

• 

 

[Scott]

Burden of proof fallacy. I named the owner of the farm. They were growing marijuana and everybody, them, the state, the feds, everybody says they were. The growing and sale of marijuana is a federal crime.

21 U.S. Code § 841 - Prohibited acts A

www.law.cornell.edu

Federal Laws for Possession of Weed and Distribution of Marijuana Charges

Are you a victim of discriminatory pay at work? Work on your claims and seek the best legal advice with the help of our expert employment attorney today.

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Everybody admits that there were children ("unaccompanied minors") working on the farm, the only variation is exactly how many.

I don't have to go there to know those are the facts in this case.

Thanks for providing evidence for at least some of your claims. Here's to hoping that we can focus on evidence instead of just bad mouthing each other.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

If you bother to look up any of numerous sources everything I stated is correct. It is what I'd call "common knowledge," so it needs little proof.

 

[Scott]

As I told Tobytone, some of what you say may be true- the problem is that, like Tobytone, you don't actually provide any evidence for your assertions.

If you bother to look up any of numerous sources everything I stated is correct. It is what I'd call "common knowledge," so it needs little proof.

As I like to tell people, I don't do other's homework for them. If someone makes a claim and is asked to provide evidence for it, I think the logical thing would be for them to do so. I've never understood the logic of some that their ideological opponents should be the one to provide evidence for their own claims. You did provide a bit of evidence for your claims in post #22, though upon looking more closely, I now see that you only provided evidence that growing marijuana was a federal crime, not that the farm in question was actually growing it. I'm not saying they weren't growing it, I'm just pointing out you didn't provide any evidence of this.

 

[Tobytone]

Have you been there and seen it for yourself?????

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

 

[Trumpet]

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

There are plenty of fake propaganda videos going around.

 

[Tobytone]

Yes.



You may find another thread I started today to be educational as to my views on many key democrats and republicans:

Thread 'Trump, Epstein and the Deep State | Chris Hedges'

Yesterday at 6:41 PM

Just saw the article from which this thread draws its name. I just skimmed it, but it seems on point with other things I've heard. Quoting from the introduction to the article below:
**

The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.​

Chris Hedges
Jul 12, 2025

The refusal by the Trump administration to release the files and videos amassed during investigations into the activities of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, should put to rest the absurd idea, embraced by...

• Scott
• bill gates chris hedges deep state donald trump epstein fbi fbi deputy director dan bongino fbi director kash patel pam bondi prince andrew
• Replies: 7
• Forum: General Politics Forum

• 

I'm really not interested but I'm sure it's good. Are you all set with the google lesson? I assume you've figured it out already. Are you ready to say I was correct about the Cartel's and 'Farm workers' and 'rioters attacking feds' and unaccompanied minors working on the farm?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I've seen the video of the dumbasses throwing massive rocks and smashing out the windows of the ICE vehicles and another loser popping off rounds at the officers, have you? Probably not because you're likely glued to MSNBC or The View.

Arrest them. I'm good with arresting all criminals, especially the violent ones. The problem is a President who pardons violent terrorists for political reasons.

 

[Tobytone]

There are plenty of fake propaganda videos going around.

So, you’re seriously suggesting those AI-generated videos floating around explain this mess? What, the media and ICE are cooking up fake clips to trick us into believing minors are slaving in fields and rioters tried to murder agents? And then they whipped up another AI image of the 14 kids they rescued from the farmers or actually slave owners?

You drones really buy that these are just “hard working folks” supporting their families, minding their own business, doing jobs Americans won’t touch, right? Pull your heads out of your clueless asses. Hardworking? Sure, many are. Supporting families? Trying for sure. Harmless? Many of them are, but they know all too well this whole arrangement isn't harmless at all, they are harmed and America is harmed by supporting the Cartels by allowing them to operate in our country.

Every single one of those desperate people were exploited by cartels, fed lies about great jobs and quick cash to pay off their border-crossing debts while raking it in stateside, given lists of all the goodies waiting for them. Surprise, the cartels lied, who could’ve seen that coming? These people are told where they must go, what they must do, and to shut their mouths, or they and their families face a gruesome end.

I know you libtards think evil’s just a fairy tale, but cartels are some of the most vile scum on Earth, forcing these folks to work like dogs while pocketing most of their wages for as long as they please. Those “victims” you think ICE is unfairly targeting? They’re essentially modern-day slaves, many, especially young girls, abused in the most horrific ways and ICE is liberating many of the innocent slaves and rounding up many of their slave masters and illegal criminals.

When will you brain-dead morons realize you’ve been played by the slimiest politicians on the planet? They know every gruesome detail, briefed with intel that’d make your stomach churn, yet they stare into cameras and lie to your faces, claiming ICE, not the cartels, is the villain. Wake up, you gullible drones, you’re complicit in a humanitarian disaster unfolding right in your backyard, all because of your unhinged Trump hatred. That’s a whole other saga, you’re being herded into irrational loathing by the same corrupt politicians who see you as nothing but disgusting, dimwitted pawns, lapping up every lie they feed you like the obedient sheep you are.

Seriously, if you care about nothing else you should be outraged by the 323,000 children lost by the Biden administration. Except for the lucky 10,000 ICE has found so far, the rest are still out there being abused and exploited every minute of every day while you idiots are doing your best to stop the people dedicated to saving them and removing the scum that came here to sell drugs, underage sex trade, slave labor, etc. and let's not forget the whole murdering people thing.

Oh, anyone that made it through this post, don't bother asking for links. It's far more valuable for you to discover these things all by yourself using the many tools we all have now. A link won't change your mind, but you actively seeking the truth just might.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Hard for me to read this type of thing, but it looks like some here really need a lesson on what ICE is doing, so here goes...

**
"ICE was conducting a raid using disproportionate displays of force against local farmworkers and our agricultural community," said U.S. Rep. Salud Carbajal, who was denied entry to one farm where he was attempting to provide oversight.

By Julia Conley

Jul 11, 2025

[snip]

U.S. Rep. Salud Carbajal (D-Calif.), who represents Santa Barbara County and part of Ventura County, released a statement condemning the ICE raid and saying he had been "denied entry and not allowed to pass" when he attempted to "conduct oversight" over the raid targeting his constituents in Carpinteria.

"ICE was conducting a raid using disproportionate displays of force against local farmworkers and our agricultural community," said Carbajal. "There's been a troubling lack of transparency from ICE since the Trump administration started, and I won't stop asking questions on behalf of my constituents."

Carbajal is now one of several Democratic elected officials who have been denied the ability to oversee ICE operations. Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-N.J.) pleaded not guilty last month to forcibly interfering with federal officers—charges that stemmed from her attempt to conduct congressional oversight at an ICE detention center in Newark, New Jersey.

"These militarized ICE raids are not how you keep our communities safe. This kind of chaos only traumatizes families and tears communities apart. They are also a gross misuse of limited resources and a betrayal of the values that define us as Americans," said Carbajal, who noted that the identities of those detained in the raids had not been made clear.

[snip]

Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat who has clashed with President Donald Trump and filed a lawsuit against the administration last month over its federalization of the California National Guard to respond to protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles, posted a video showing children running from the federal agents.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943469956181692448

View: https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1943469956181692448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1943469956181692448%7Ctwgr%5Ec619499709b06a0ade27ea9b6a444fa806faf0c6%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fnews%2Fimmigration-raids-california

**

Full article:

Federal Agents Spray Tear Gas at Protesters, Children During ICE Raids at California Farms | Common Dreams

Federal immigration agents faced strong resistance during raids on cannabis farms in Southern California, sparking protests and arrests of migrants at licensed facilities. Community members clashed with ICE. Rep. Salud Carbajal condemned the raids, highlighting the lack of transparency and...

www.commondreams.org

holy dumb.

 

[Trumpet]

So, you’re seriously suggesting those AI-generated videos floating around explain this mess? What, the media and ICE are cooking up fake clips to trick us into believing minors are slaving in fields and rioters tried to murder agents? And then they whipped up another AI image of the 14 kids they rescued from the farmers or actually slave owners?

You drones really buy that these are just “hard working folks” supporting their families, minding their own business, doing jobs Americans won’t touch, right? Pull your heads out of your clueless asses. Hardworking? Sure, many are. Supporting families? Trying for sure. Harmless? Many of them are, but they know all too well this whole arrangement isn't harmless at all, they are harmed and America is harmed by supporting the Cartels by allowing them to operate in our country.

Every single one of those desperate people were exploited by cartels, fed lies about great jobs and quick cash to pay off their border-crossing debts while raking it in stateside, given lists of all the goodies waiting for them. Surprise, the cartels lied, who could’ve seen that coming? These people are told where they must go, what they must do, and to shut their mouths, or they and their families face a gruesome end.

I know you libtards think evil’s just a fairy tale, but cartels are some of the most vile scum on Earth, forcing these folks to work like dogs while pocketing most of their wages for as long as they please. Those “victims” you think ICE is unfairly targeting? They’re essentially modern-day slaves, many, especially young girls, abused in the most horrific ways and ICE is liberating many of the innocent slaves and rounding up many of their slave masters and illegal criminals.

When will you brain-dead morons realize you’ve been played by the slimiest politicians on the planet? They know every gruesome detail, briefed with intel that’d make your stomach churn, yet they stare into cameras and lie to your faces, claiming ICE, not the cartels, is the villain. Wake up, you gullible drones, you’re complicit in a humanitarian disaster unfolding right in your backyard, all because of your unhinged Trump hatred. That’s a whole other saga, you’re being herded into irrational loathing by the same corrupt politicians who see you as nothing but disgusting, dimwitted pawns, lapping up every lie they feed you like the obedient sheep you are.

Seriously, if you care about nothing else you should be outraged by the 323,000 children lost by the Biden administration. Except for the lucky 10,000 ICE has found so far, the rest are still out there being abused and exploited every minute of every day while you idiots are doing your best to stop the people dedicated to saving them and removing the scum that came here to sell drugs, underage sex trade, slave labor, etc. and let's not forget the whole murdering people thing.

Oh, anyone that made it through this post, don't bother asking for links. It's far more valuable for you to discover these things all by yourself using the many tools we all have now. A link won't change your mind, but you actively seeking the truth just might.

OMG

 

[NiftyNiblick]

ICE is now a criminal organization operated by a criminal government.
To not accept that is to be cognitively impaired at a hopeless level.

As for tear gas, few people in my peer group were NOT tear gassed in the 1960s at one time or another.
That's really not a big deal.
It's NOTHING like military tear gas.

That is no excuse for how ICE is doing it, however.
ICE agents and most current administration members
will need to face Draconian repercussions for what they've done
if sanity ever again prevails in this country.

The current administration is an abomination of major historical significance.
Any reasonably intelligent person has to recognize that.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So, you’re seriously suggesting those AI-generated videos floating around explain this mess? What, the media and ICE are cooking up fake clips to trick us into believing minors are slaving in fields and rioters tried to murder agents? And then they whipped up another AI image of the 14 kids they rescued from the farmers or actually slave owners?

^^^
Only believes AI-generated videos floated by Trump or his minions sycophants supporters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1868000735360905364

View: https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1868000735360905364

Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

truthsocial.com

 

[T. A. Gardner]

As I like to tell people, I don't do other's homework for them. If someone makes a claim and is asked to provide evidence for it, I think the logical thing would be for them to do so. I've never understood the logic of some that their ideological opponents should be the one to provide evidence for their own claims. You did provide a bit of evidence for your claims in post #22, though upon looking more closely, I now see that you only provided evidence that growing marijuana was a federal crime, not that the farm in question was actually growing it. I'm not saying they weren't growing it, I'm just pointing out you didn't provide any evidence of this.

I usually will unless the claim is so obvious, or should be so obvious, that it doesn't require additional proof. For headline stories in the news that are widely disseminated, I see that as obvious. Specific details, I'll provide, and in this case have. I don't want to have to do that 3 or more times repeatedly however.

The farm in question was owned by a company that openly admits they grow and sell marijuana commercially. I gave the company name, and details of that. The company's owners don't refute it was a marijuana growing operation. The press widely stated it was a marijuana growing operation. What more proof do you need, me to go there and get samples of the plants?