Evidence of earliest humans in North America corroborated by second study

IBDaMann said:
Carbon-14 is total garbage if you are trying to date something for which carbon-14 cannot be used. Did you say that FOOTPRINTS were dated?
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The mud the footprints impressed themselves into are determined by two independent studies and multiple lines of evidence to be between 21k and 23k years old. The wet mud and the people who made the footprints had to be roughly contemporaneous.

No one is stopping you from going to New Mexico, collecting and analyzing your own samples, and publishing your results in a reputable scientific publication.
 
Cypress said:
The mud the footprints impressed themselves into are determined by two independent studies and multiple lines of evidence to be between 21k and 23k years old. The wet mud and the people who made the footprints had to be roughly contemporaneous.

No one is stopping you from going to New Mexico, collecting and analyzing your own samples, and publishing your results in a reputable scientific publication.
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You're trying to convince a nutjob that they are wrong. That will never work.

Rational people listen to reason. Irrational people, not so much.
 
Cypress said:
This place draws in the mentally disabled the way a lantern draws moths!
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Agreed. What else are they going to do when not panhandling for liquor and lotto ticket money outside a Starbucks?

Did you ever run the experiment of thread banning one of Sybil's socks to see if the other two ever showed up?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
This has nothing to do with that. It simply shows that prehistoric humans lived in the Western Hemisphere far earl ier than prior work had shown. It's mostly of interest to historians, anthropologists, and archeaologists.
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The fact these footprints are found in New Mexico obviously means humans crossed over from Siberia into Beringia and the Pacific Coast long before these footprints were made. The implication being that humans were in North America well before 22k years ago, blowing all previous estimates out of the water
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. What else are they going to do when not panhandling for liquor and lotto ticket money outside a Starbucks?

Did you ever run the experiment of thread banning one of Sybil's socks to see if the other two ever showed up?
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Lol
That experiment never occurred to me! What were the results of your test?
 
Cypress said:
But I cannot definitively prove strict physical materialism is all there is in this life.
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Nor can I,
but the thought makes me more content than believing
that a universes in which there exists as much suffering as exist in ours
is anything other than a random happenstance.

To think that it is the manifestation of some orderly design
is too depressing an idea with which to live.

Like you, I acknowledge that many real rewarding things exist in life,
things like those that you've mentioned,
but do they adequately compensate the travails?

If the travails are what tip the scales, even slightly,
then life is a net negative experience.

If life is a net negative experience,
I'd rather not believe that it's part of some order.
I'd rather believe that it's, as I said, a random happening.

The fact that random is easier for me to understand than supernatural is---anyway---
is why I just go with that.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Nor can I,
but the thought makes me more content than believing
that a universes in which there exists as much suffering as exist in ours
is anything other than a random happenstance.

To think that it is the manifestation of some orderly design
is too depressing an idea with which to live.

Like you, I acknowledge that many real rewarding things exist in life,
things like those that you've mentioned,
but do they adequately compensate the travails?

If the travails are what tip the scales, even slightly,
then life is a net negative experience.

If life is a net negative experience,
I'd rather not believe that it's part of some order.
I'd rather believe that it's, as I said, a random happening.

The fact that random is easier for me to understand than supernatural is---anyway---
is why I just go with that.
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Which leads to a happier life: Believing the glass is half full or believing it's half empty?

IMO, it's easy to observe a person's posts over a period of weeks and determine if they are happy or not. Bitter or content?

You're obviously unhappy and bitter, Nifty. I suspect yours is a life of pain. Have you considered getting help? Just ending it all? Would you hurt your spouse and dog before you did?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Which leads to a happier life: Believing the glass is half full or believing it's half empty?

IMO, it's easy to observe a person's posts over a period of weeks and determine if they are happy or not. Bitter or content?

You're obviously unhappy and bitter, Nifty. I suspect yours is a life of pain. Have you considered getting help? Just ending it all? Would you hurt your spouse and dog before you did?
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I'm not blaming you, Oom.
You're obviously WAY undermedicated.

You're at the stage where general anesthesia might be your ideal medication level.
An induced coma, perhaps?

That would be best for you, Oom, from the perspective of the rest of us,
but if you're happy in your current state of cognition disfunction,
that's all that has to matter to you, I suppose.
 
Cypress said:
Lol
That experiment never occurred to me! What were the results of your test?
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It's a work in progress.
Into the Night

Post in thread 'Sock and Sycho Hunting'

Dutch Uncle said:
As some may know, one of my favorite activities on JPP is sock hunting. JPP presents a unique opportunity since it allows multiple accounts of members.

One of the most obvious socks is @Into the Night, @gfm7175, @IBDaMann. Legion AKA @Lionfish was notorious for multiple socks. I suspect that two of his socks are @zymurgy and @ziggy but those two accounts post so rarely and in short posts that it's difficult to get a read on them.

Since the average age of JPP members is over 60, plus white and male, it narrows the parameters of behavioral...
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NiftyNiblick said:
I'm not blaming you, Oom.
You're obviously WAY undermedicated.

You're at the stage where general anesthesia might be your ideal medication level.
An induced coma, perhaps?
That would be best for you, Oom, from the perspective of the rest of us,
but if you're happy in your current state of cognition disfunction,
that's all that has to matter to you, I suppose.
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What makes you believe I'm undermedicated and what medication would you recommend, Neef?

Are you angwy with me, Neef? Did my post twigger you? The fact you didn't answer a single question is very interesting to me. :) FWIW, I've been unconscious several times. I prefer to be awake and enjoy what little time I have remaining.

Interesting that you believe you speak for everyone. Is it to build up your courage?
 
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