Althea
Althea told me...
He didn't get to hand pick the soldiers the way he did at West Point the week before.
trump loves his dine and dash
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It just keeps getting more and more bizarre.
But as you can see, Walt...the MAGA Trump asskissers are rushing to make it seem normal.
MAGA morons would not recognize normal if they fell over it.
^^^lol idiot now thinks Trump caused WW II or something and handled military payrolls. these tards are getting more and more ridiculous by the hour.
You are as pathetic as Trump...and Trump is very, very pathetic.
Indeed, desperation…you can smell the fear that they have become irrelevant…and they have.
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
ThatOwlWoman
Not Nice
I imagine that it takes quite a while to successfully plan a parade of that size. This one seemed hastily put together and not well executed. No doubt the #FatFascistFelon will insist on a bigger, better one in the near future.
I only watched a smattering of takes from the "parade", but saw a soldier lying out on th front of a moving tank...and route step marching.You aren't the only one wondering.
Route step actually is needed. Crossing a small bridge requires the leader to call, 'Route step MARCH!"...so that the cadence does not effect the integrity of a small bridge.
But it seemed obvious to me that this was a parade of soldiers telling General Bone Spurs Trump to go fuck himself.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
The President can order them called up and federalized. The pay situation is more complex and has NOTHING to do with the President. That is a National Guard - DoD matter. Being federalized, they receive federal, not state, pay. This means that the service records for each NG member have to be transferred to DFAS Cleveland where it will be processed for payment rather than their usual chain of command pay system through the state of California. If Newscum and Co. who ruin California are foot dragging their end of that process, then pay could be delayed by months. On the federal end, if DFAS isn't forced into moving fast on this, it could be months before payment is made.Trump Is Stiffing the National Guard Soldiers He Sent to L.A.
Malcolm Ferguson
Thu, June 12, 2025 at 11:06 AM EDT
2 min read
The thousands of National Guardsmen President Trump sent to Los Angeles in an authoritarian power play are working for free.
More than a dozen guardsmen told Military.com that they remain unpaid, as they have yet to receive official activation orders. Receiving such orders would allow them to receive pay, Tricare health benefits, and Department of Veterans Affairs eligibility. Without them, the troops dispatched aren’t getting anything.
Trump’s abrupt deployment of the guardsmen, against the wishes of Los Angeles’s mayor and California’s governor, circumvented executive norms and has resulted in thousands of soldiers who aren’t sure if they’ll be compensated for the work they’re doing. Guardsmen have also complained about their living conditions, as many of them are sleeping on cots at a Naval Base on the edge of Los Angeles.
Forcing people to work for no pay is very on brand for the president. He owes the city of Albuquerque nearly half a million dollars in unpaid safety fees for a 2019 rally. He did a similar dash in cities across the country, racking up millions of dollars in unpaid fees. Some places, like Nassau County, gave up on trying to bill Trump entirely and just ate the $1 million he owed them. Similar instances occurred in Eerie, Pennsylvania; Tuscon, Arizona; and Green Bay and Prairie Du Chien, Wisconsin. “He’s welcome here, but we need to have our bills paid. Any expenses incurred by us for him being here, or we don’t really want him here,” Prairie Du Chien Mayor Dave Hemmer said last year. “We are a smaller city and if we incurred expenses like that, we expect to be reimbursed. Or we’d say, ‘Don’t come.’” In his private life as a businessman, Trump frequently refused to pay contractors—hundreds have claimed he stiffed them for completed work as a private citizen.
Now the guardsmen are getting the same treatment.
Trump Is Stiffing the National Guard Soldiers He Sent to L.A.
As usual, Trump is refusing to foot the bill.www.yahoo.com
All it would take to mess the process up is the state not allowing NG personnel officers to do their job by not calling them up or allowing them to drill and do the necessary paperwork immediately.
That is why Trump reamed out Hegseth. It is when he found out his head of Defense could not put together a parade.
What is normal is for veterans to know exactly the date they started and ended serving. It is unheard of for soldiers to have to serve three weeks without formally being part of the federal military. I is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard of.
trump made verbal orders to federalize the troops saying he had signed written orders. trump lied. There have been no written orders. Without written orders, these federalized troops get absolutely no benefits, or even pay. There supplies are not paid for by the government, and if it can go past 90 days, they will not even be able to apply for reimbursement. It is a disgrace.
trump claims that he signed written orders, and gave verbal orders to start moving before the written orders arrive. There have been no written orders. It is questionable whether he can backdate written orders. trump's lie is going to cost these soldiers a lot of money.
It has everything to do with the president. When a president federalizes troops with written orders, they are sooner or later entered into the federal system. They may not get all the benefits immediately, but they will be backdated to when the orders were signed. trump refusing to sign he orders has put everyone into a bizarre limbo.
The written orders federalizing them would mean they would be under the federal system. It is orders to the DOD to put them in the federal system. Without written orders, the DOD does not consider them federalized.
There is no process. These troops have not be federalized as far as the DOD is concerned. Without written orders, there is no process. With written orders, there is no way for the state to "mess the process up." Federalized troops are not under the authority of the Governor.
trump wears Depends.
In the real world, you are either in the US Army or you are not. There is no "depends."
Let's take an average captain, who had to put $5,000 on his personal credit card to move troops, and to feed troops. He is not getting paid at his regular job, nor is he getting paid by the federal government. If he is not formally federalized within 90 days of the expenses, he cannot apply for reimbursement.
Yes, he is desperate. He will probably lose his house over this.