Still has not closed Gitmo, increased drones into Pakistan; in fact Obama is more like the Bush the MSM painted then the actual Bush ever was!!!
Obama Drug Policy Calls for Drugged Driving Charges for Unimpaired Marijuana Users
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Still has not closed Gitmo, increased drones into Pakistan; in fact Obama is more like the Bush the MSM painted then the actual Bush ever was!!!
christiefan915
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Looks like your hero reagan started it in 1982.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=42395
reagan : (d) generate public support for increased enforcement of State and local drunk driving laws.
In other words, encouraged more enforcement.
Try not to move the goal posts now that I've named a repub.
Thorn
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Yes. Before I forget the details: Hunault et al., Toxicol. Appl Pharmacol. May, 2010. Terminal half life of THC itself in humans was 150 minutes. I went to the National Library of Medicine site, and through Pub Med, which gives you the abstracts of the original research articles. This one was brand new, just published last week. Their opening statement was essentially what I said above about no good test being available to date.
I've done a LOT of liquid chromatography (HPLC) on tiny samples (5 microliters and sometimes attomole levels of neurotransmitters). Primary agents and their metabolites elute (react or appear) at different times in the analysis, and that's how they're identified. I think that the method of analyzing drug levels is probably gas chromatography, but the principles and overall methods are the same. You have to know what you're looking for and the levels are compared to "standards", or levels in a sample of known quantity. So THC and all its different metabolites would show up at different times on the output. Those THC metabolites (what you get after the liver does its job on the principal substance) hang around in the body for a long time precisely because they ARE lipophilic, or attracted to fat, and so aren't excreted at the same rate as other substances.
Also, before I forget this again, it's likely that the tests would be conducted on a urine sample, not a blood sample as I said earlier (I was hungry and lightheaded, sorry!).
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I was initially taken aback when you said that alcohol has a smaller half-life than THC, but now that I think about it, if you stop drinking alcohol actully does where off pretty quick. It's just easy to smoke one bowl of marijuana and be done with it, while alcohol seems to encourage you to drink more.
The grass hits fast while alcohol (casual drinking) takes some time....you don't guzzel a six pack in 2 minutes....
Billy the Great Khan
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Maybe you don't.
Thorn
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The route of administration has a lot to do with that as well. Nothing taken orally has an immediate effect, has to go through the liver first, whereas inhaled substances have direct access to the brain via the nasal and pulmonary vascular systems.
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Bravo, I promise you... alcohol can do way more to destroy your life way more than pot. Once you've started drinking, you pretty much have to drink the rest of the day. And it can get very addictive.
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I've read that this is essentially the difference in the addictiveness between cocaine and crack. Crack gets into your bloodstream immediately, while cocaine takes a while.
But since marijuana isn't physically addictive (at least I've read that it's not physically addictive), this wouldn't really play a roll.
You must have missed all the Obama supporters chanting "Yes We Cannibis", the pot smokers lined up in droves to vote for him because they thought he would legalize MJ. Now he is suggesting, recommending that other states follow suit. That usually means do it or we cut your federal funds.
Topspin
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Hey village people ah I mean bravo. Obama will get a second term despite being a total asshole on the pot issue.
P.S. I'm baked!!
Thorn
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We're not talking about addiction here, but about the time between ingestion and effect. We could as easily be talking about aspirin in this regard.
Crack is smoked and therefore has a portal via the vasculature in the lungs as well as the nose. Cocaine is typically snorted, at least initially, and so is a lot quicker than something taken orally, but the effect still is virtually immediate. The difference between the two is the amount that enters the brain immediately.
Again, I stress that physiological tolerance is entirely independent of addiction. It's hard for non-specialists to partition the two, but it's the truth. Morphine, for instance, has some pretty nasty side effects in the body, but someone who appreciates the euphoric effect enough (and not everyone does) will return to try it again for the latter, regardless of the unpleasantness of the former. When it comes to withdrawal, bear in mind that the physical withdrawal of, again, heroin or morphine is not the ravaged agony that you see in film, but is more like a mild flu. Unpleasant but not insurmountable, and it doesn't take that long to abate. That notwithstanding, people can experience cravings long after the physiological tolerance no longer exists, and a single small exposure to the drug, or even to enough cues strongly associated with the drug experience, can be enough to reinitiate its use.
cawacko
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haha... ever been a pledge in a fraternity?
Minister of Truth
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Well, that's not really fair, because they have all the nifty gear to make it doable, like the funnel and hose contraption. And no, I didn't pledge, else I might recall what its called...
Billy the Great Khan
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I do it without all that technological aid. Granted, I need to be drunk first in order to do it, but I've done it none the less.