In about two weeks!

Tbird19482 said:
Maybe because the " far left loons " are smart enough to know it is the CONSUMER that ends up paying the tariffs NOthe country / company that exports their goods to the USA or the retailers selling the goods , you MAGA morons are too stupid to understand that.
And the MAGAS like you won't start saying a word about it until it its you in the pocketbook by that time it will be too late.
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Please try to understand the following, it might save you embarrassment in the future.

Again, I'll point out the obvious, when you buy American, tariffs aren't an issue. And only a complete dimwit would argue against reciprocal tariffs, as Trump rightly demands. If other countries slap us with high tariffs, why shouldn't we return the favor? It's called fairness, look it up. That said, I know you're just parroting the narrative like a good drone so I'll aim at all libtards, not just a soldier like you.

So, let's address the brilliance of the libtard mind. They've suddenly become economic scholars, preaching that consumers bear the full brunt of tariffs. (Spoiler: it's not that simple, but we'll dumb it down for the dumbasses for now) Yet these same masterminds cheer for hiking corporate taxes without a hint of irony. Newsflash: corporate taxes are always passed on to consumers. There's no mythical Mr. Corporate footing the bill, every penny of those taxes gets baked into higher prices. But somehow, that's fine with the left. Consistency isn't their strong suit.

Here's where tariffs and corporate taxes part ways, pay attention, because this is where it gets good. Corporate taxes are a direct hit: companies raise prices to cover the cost, no questions asked. It's simple math, even for those who flunked econ.

Tariffs, however, are a different beast. When a foreign company faces a new tariff, they've got choices. Is their widget exclusive to their country, or can it be sourced elsewhere with a lower tariff? Better yet, is there an American producer ready to step in with zero tariff? Depending on the answers, that foreign company might have to eat the tariff to stay competitive, meaning little to no price hike for consumers. In some cases, they'll slash their profit margins just to keep a foothold in the world's greatest market, ours.

And here's the kicker, if the widget isn't made here yet, foreign companies still have to tread carefully. Jack up prices too much, and an American company might start producing it, snatching that market share for good. That's why foreign suppliers are scrambling to cut deals and avoid losing their slice of the American pie.

So, dear libtard, care to explain why you're suddenly tax experts when it suits your narrative? Maybe take a break from the sanctimonious lectures and grasp the difference between tariffs and corporate taxes. Or is that too much for your enlightened minds to handle? That's a rhetorical question, we all know the answer.
 
Tobytone said:
Please try to understand the following, it might save you embarrassment in the future.

Again, I'll point out the obvious, when you buy American, tariffs aren't an issue. And only a complete dimwit would argue against reciprocal tariffs, as Trump rightly demands. If other countries slap us with high tariffs, why shouldn't we return the favor? It's called fairness, look it up. That said, I know you're just parroting the narrative like a good drone so I'll aim at all libtards, not just a soldier like you.

So, let's address the brilliance of the libtard mind. They've suddenly become economic scholars, preaching that consumers bear the full brunt of tariffs. (Spoiler: it's not that simple, but we'll dumb it down for the dumbasses for now) Yet these same masterminds cheer for hiking corporate taxes without a hint of irony. Newsflash: corporate taxes are always passed on to consumers. There's no mythical Mr. Corporate footing the bill, every penny of those taxes gets baked into higher prices. But somehow, that's fine with the left. Consistency isn't their strong suit.

Here's where tariffs and corporate taxes part ways, pay attention, because this is where it gets good. Corporate taxes are a direct hit: companies raise prices to cover the cost, no questions asked. It's simple math, even for those who flunked econ.

Tariffs, however, are a different beast. When a foreign company faces a new tariff, they've got choices. Is their widget exclusive to their country, or can it be sourced elsewhere with a lower tariff? Better yet, is there an American producer ready to step in with zero tariff? Depending on the answers, that foreign company might have to eat the tariff to stay competitive, meaning little to no price hike for consumers. In some cases, they'll slash their profit margins just to keep a foothold in the world's greatest market, ours.

And here's the kicker, if the widget isn't made here yet, foreign companies still have to tread carefully. Jack up prices too much, and an American company might start producing it, snatching that market share for good. That's why foreign suppliers are scrambling to cut deals and avoid losing their slice of the American pie.

So, dear libtard, care to explain why you're suddenly tax experts when it suits your narrative? Maybe take a break from the sanctimonious lectures and grasp the difference between tariffs and corporate taxes. Or is that too much for your enlightened minds to handle? That's a rhetorical question, we all know the answer.
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In two weeks!
 
Tobytone said:
Please try to understand the following, it might save you embarrassment in the future.

Again, I'll point out the obvious, when you buy American, tariffs aren't an issue. And only a complete dimwit would argue against reciprocal tariffs, as Trump rightly demands. If other countries slap us with high tariffs, why shouldn't we return the favor? It's called fairness, look it up. That said, I know you're just parroting the narrative like a good drone so I'll aim at all libtards, not just a soldier like you.

So, let's address the brilliance of the libtard mind. They've suddenly become economic scholars, preaching that consumers bear the full brunt of tariffs. (Spoiler: it's not that simple, but we'll dumb it down for the dumbasses for now) Yet these same masterminds cheer for hiking corporate taxes without a hint of irony. Newsflash: corporate taxes are always passed on to consumers. There's no mythical Mr. Corporate footing the bill, every penny of those taxes gets baked into higher prices. But somehow, that's fine with the left. Consistency isn't their strong suit.

Here's where tariffs and corporate taxes part ways, pay attention, because this is where it gets good. Corporate taxes are a direct hit: companies raise prices to cover the cost, no questions asked. It's simple math, even for those who flunked econ.

Tariffs, however, are a different beast. When a foreign company faces a new tariff, they've got choices. Is their widget exclusive to their country, or can it be sourced elsewhere with a lower tariff? Better yet, is there an American producer ready to step in with zero tariff? Depending on the answers, that foreign company might have to eat the tariff to stay competitive, meaning little to no price hike for consumers. In some cases, they'll slash their profit margins just to keep a foothold in the world's greatest market, ours.

And here's the kicker, if the widget isn't made here yet, foreign companies still have to tread carefully. Jack up prices too much, and an American company might start producing it, snatching that market share for good. That's why foreign suppliers are scrambling to cut deals and avoid losing their slice of the American pie.

So, dear libtard, care to explain why you're suddenly tax experts when it suits your narrative? Maybe take a break from the sanctimonious lectures and grasp the difference between tariffs and corporate taxes. Or is that too much for your enlightened minds to handle? That's a rhetorical question, we all know the answer.
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Well for one thing anybody that thinks tariffs as high as Trump wants to put on are going to be paid by the exporting countries is a fool.
Tariffs of min. 25% some 40/50 15O% OR more ( one on solar panels is 3251% , that is a little ridiculous ) will be passed on to the US Consumer . raising prices and hurting the people of the USA.
I would be for tariffs that were REASONABLE 5 or even 10% but these are not.
And as it is now with Trump dancing around with his on again off again BS, it is making the markets jittery and retailers have NO idea what to do , if they should order more stuff, can they get it before the tariffs take hold. NO Trump is going to run us into a recession / depression with all his BS and it is time you moron MAGAS wake up to that fact.
 
Tobytone said:
Please try to understand the following, it might save you embarrassment in the future.

Again, I'll point out the obvious, when you buy American, tariffs aren't an issue. And only a complete dimwit would argue against reciprocal tariffs, as Trump rightly demands. If other countries slap us with high tariffs, why shouldn't we return the favor? It's called fairness, look it up. That said, I know you're just parroting the narrative like a good drone so I'll aim at all libtards, not just a soldier like you.

So, let's address the brilliance of the libtard mind. They've suddenly become economic scholars, preaching that consumers bear the full brunt of tariffs. (Spoiler: it's not that simple, but we'll dumb it down for the dumbasses for now) Yet these same masterminds cheer for hiking corporate taxes without a hint of irony. Newsflash: corporate taxes are always passed on to consumers. There's no mythical Mr. Corporate footing the bill, every penny of those taxes gets baked into higher prices. But somehow, that's fine with the left. Consistency isn't their strong suit.

Here's where tariffs and corporate taxes part ways, pay attention, because this is where it gets good. Corporate taxes are a direct hit: companies raise prices to cover the cost, no questions asked. It's simple math, even for those who flunked econ.

Tariffs, however, are a different beast. When a foreign company faces a new tariff, they've got choices. Is their widget exclusive to their country, or can it be sourced elsewhere with a lower tariff? Better yet, is there an American producer ready to step in with zero tariff? Depending on the answers, that foreign company might have to eat the tariff to stay competitive, meaning little to no price hike for consumers. In some cases, they'll slash their profit margins just to keep a foothold in the world's greatest market, ours.

And here's the kicker, if the widget isn't made here yet, foreign companies still have to tread carefully. Jack up prices too much, and an American company might start producing it, snatching that market share for good. That's why foreign suppliers are scrambling to cut deals and avoid losing their slice of the American pie.

So, dear libtard, care to explain why you're suddenly tax experts when it suits your narrative? Maybe take a break from the sanctimonious lectures and grasp the difference between tariffs and corporate taxes. Or is that too much for your enlightened minds to handle? That's a rhetorical question, we all know the answer.
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You see, this might be true, but Trump (during the campaign) stated emphatically that the American consumer would not pay the tax.

Are you now admitting he was lying to get elected?
 
Tbird19482 said:
Well for one thing anybody that thinks tariffs as high as Trump wants to put on are going to be paid by the exporting countries is a fool.
Tariffs of min. 25% some 40/50 15O% OR more ( one on solar panels is 3251% , that is a little ridiculous ) will be passed on to the US Consumer . raising prices and hurting the people of the USA.
I would be for tariffs that were REASONABLE 5 or even 10% but these are not.
And as it is now with Trump dancing around with his on again off again BS, it is making the markets jittery and retailers have NO idea what to do , if they should order more stuff, can they get it before the tariffs take hold. NO Trump is going to run us into a recession / depression with all his BS and it is time you moron MAGAS wake up to that fact.
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I'm sick of libtards whining about this so I might get a bit winded trying to address all of the dumbass shit you said and the replies I can already see coming.

Let's unpack this bullshit, shall we? You claim exporting countries won't pay Trump's tariffs and that they'll just pass the cost to U.S. consumers like it's a universal law of physics. Again, it's not that simple. As I already explained tariffs aren't a straight line to price hikes, and only a fool would think so. Foreign companies don't just get to slap on a 25%, 50%, or, gasp, 3251% tariff (nice made-up number, by the way, care to cite a source, or is that just your keyboard having a seizure?) and call it a day. They've got to COMPETE. If their widget's price skyrockets, they risk losing market share to countries with lower tariffs or, better yet, American producers with zero tariffs. Ever heard of supply and demand?

Let's talk about those ridiculous tariffs. High tariffs force foreign companies to make a choice: eat the cost to stay competitive or lose the U.S. market, the biggest, juiciest market in the world. Many will cut their profit margins rather than price themselves out. And if they don't? American companies step in, produce the goods here, and create jobs while foreign suppliers cry. (seems like I just explained this too) Solar panels at 3251%? Cute hyperbole, but even high tariffs on specific goods like solar panels incentivize domestic production. Look at China's dumping tactics, they flood markets with cheap goods to kill competition. Tariffs level the playing field. Or do you prefer bending over for Beijing? (I know you do, again, a rhetorical question)

Your reasonable 5-10% tariffs sound adorable, like something a toddler would suggest after watching a Sesame Street episode on economics. Reciprocal tariffs, as Trump pushes, match what other countries already charge us. Why should we play nice while they gouge us? That's not fairness, it's surrender. And your whining about jittery markets and retailers' confusion? Boo-hoo. Markets adapt. Retailers pivot. They're not sitting in a corner sucking their thumbs, they're strategizing. If anything, uncertainty comes from decades of spineless trade policies that let foreign countries fleece us while leftists clapped like trained seals. (it's amazing how concerned libtards are about wealthy investors unable to read the markets, working people are in mutual funds and in it for the long haul, these ups and downs will have zero impact on them)

As for your recession/depression hysteria, take a deep breath and put down the Kool-Aid. You'd think you would have learned how stupid you sound by now after earlier predictions have all fallen flat as any of us with a brain knew they would, yet you're just repeating the same shit again, LOL

Tariffs protect American industries and jobs, which strengthens the economy. History backs this up, targeted tariffs under Reagan and even earlier administrations predictably boosted domestic growth without crashing the market. Compare that to the left's obsession with corporate tax hikes, which, again, always hit consumers directly, yet you're silent on that. Funny how your outrage only kicks in when Trump's name is mentioned.

So, wake up, you sanctimonious libtard drones. Your apocalyptic fairytale doesn't hold up. Trump's tariffs are about leverage, not reckless destruction, they're about making fair deals, there's nothing difficult to understand and agree with if you're on the A-Team. I just made that up, The American Team, The A-Team! I love it. Mr. T asks you, are you on the A-Team? Ah....no, you're not and that's it in a nutshell.
 
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