Fear of Atheism

[Margot]

"Moral Relativity" = "Moral Subjectivity" for everyone who isn't lame enough to play word games

Nothing moral about the Holocaust

 

[gmark77]

Organized Religion, has the added thing of having a building and the expense that goes with that

But that surely isn't your "beef" with conflating one with the other is it?

Most people who complain about "organized religion" seem to be complaining about a belief system that is not to their liking. I think most people worship a God of their own making for the most part.

That's why some dislike "organized religion" because it creates a God that has definite features and since there's no way to prove even that God exists let alone what specific features he has it rankles many believers to think someone ELSE could dictate to them what God is like.

The real power of God is that He always believes exactly as we do and He always wants the exact same things we do. The same cannot be said for a God who is shared by many different people.

 

[Into the Night]

yes there is such a thing as objective morality.

No such thing, NoName.

just like there is a behavioral recipe to achieve a high trust society.

Try learning English.

war monger kill freaks like you just hate peace and morality, its bad for your blood money businesses.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Go learn English.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No such thing, NoName.

Try learning English.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Go learn English.

fascists like you hate morality.

 

[Into the Night]

I speak FOR the group.

You are not a group.

you've gone retarded and can;t read.

Illiteracy: The first letter of a sentence is always capitalized. Use of semicolon instead of apostrophe. Use of plural for singular.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

No such thing, NoName.

Try learning English.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Go learn English.

morality is behaviors and attitudes which facilitate, voluntary and mutually beneficial relationships.

 

[Into the Night]

Organized Religion, has the added thing of having a building and the expense that goes with that

Oddly enough, that's not necessarily true. Organized religions don't require a building (although many of them have them).
The believers are willing to construct such a building and pay for it.

 

[Into the Night]

Nothing moral about the Holocaust

Depends on who you ask. Nazis believed that the Holocaust was perfectly moral.
The allied forces were horrified to discover what the Nazis had been doing. They had different morals.

 

[Margot]

But that surely isn't your "beef" with conflating one with the other is it?

Most people who complain about "organized religion" seem to be complaining about a belief system that is not to their liking. I think most people worship a God of their own making for the most part.

That's why some dislike "organized religion" because it creates a God that has definite features and since there's no way to prove even that God exists let alone what specific features he has it rankles many believers to think someone ELSE could dictate to them what God is like.

The real power of God is that He always believes exactly as we do and He always wants the exact same things we do. The same cannot be said for a God who is shared by many different people.

If you don't believe God exists, why go to Church!

 

[Cypress]

Nothing moral about the Holocaust

Even if the Nazis won the war, and Nazi propaganda convinced 98 percent of people that Jews were an existential threat to national security and to the gene pool, genocide would still be wrong for all time and all places.

That is precisely why the Nuremberg trials invoked objective morality.

 

[Margot]

Depends on who you ask. Nazis believed that the Holocaust was perfectly moral.
The allied forces were horrified to discover what the Nazis had been doing. They had different morals.

I'm sure you agree with the Nazis

Depends on who you ask. Nazis believed that the Holocaust was perfectly moral.
The allied forces were horrified to discover what the Nazis had been doing. They had different morals.

 

[gmark77]

If you don't believe God exists, why go to Church!

You didn't understand my point.

 

[Into the Night]

But that surely isn't your "beef" with conflating one with the other is it?

Most people who complain about "organized religion" seem to be complaining about a belief system that is not to their liking. I think most people worship a God of their own making for the most part.

That's why some dislike "organized religion" because it creates a God that has definite features and since there's no way to prove even that God exists let alone what specific features he has it rankles many believers to think someone ELSE could dictate to them what God is like.

The real power of God is that He always believes exactly as we do and He always wants the exact same things we do. The same cannot be said for a God who is shared by many different people.

So...you say you can't describe God, and then go and describe God in detail.

Which is it, dude???

 

[Into the Night]

fascists like you hate morality.

Capitalism is not fascism, NoName. Morality is not a hate.
Go learn English.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Capitalism is not fascism, NoName. Morality is not a hate.
Go learn English.

fascism is fascism tho.

quit being a douche.

thanks.

 

[Into the Night]

morality is behaviors and attitudes which facilitate, voluntary and mutually beneficial relationships.

A reasonably close definition. Congratulations.

 

[gmark77]

So...you say you can't describe God, and then go and describe God in detail.

Which is it, dude???

It amazes me how little reading ability you have.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm sure you agree with the Nazis

Why would I do that? I'm not a socialist, or a bigot, or a racist.

 

[Into the Night]

fascism is fascism tho.

Circular definition.

quit being a douche.

thanks.

Go learn what 'douche' means.

 

[Into the Night]

It amazes me how little reading ability you have.

Answer the question put to you. Stop evading.