Civil War

[Into the Night]

you don't understand what paradox means then.

you;re fucking dumb.

A paradox is two conflicting arguments, NoName. You are contradicting yourself. That's irrational. Go learn English.

 

[EdwinA]

Lol, I've noticed a pattern with paranoid conspiracy nuts, libtards, and toddlers. Their brains are so fried they can't come up with their own comebacks. I wonder how long you thought about how to reply, desperately trying for you very own original thought. Of course, you couldn't pull it off, so you copied me, ROFL. Sit Edwina sit, no biscuit for you until you stop being a dumbass drone.

I've noticed a pattern with parrots on both the right and the left; they're all morons and love revisionist history and support sociopathic neuroses and go spastic when they see something that doesn't conform to their fake narratives, like all good commies and social darwinists. Of course, you can't pull it off, and need all these strawmen to knock down, being completely unable to refute anything I said. You're just a dumbass drone.

 

[IBDaMann]

I figured you'd concede I was right all along,

Sorry, I can't do it. Now the entire bill is being stonewalled by Senate Republicans because of legitimate fiscal concerns. Senate Republicans are rightly disappointed in the prospect of having to explain to their constituents how they are going to be renegging on all their promises to reduce the deficit and to finally tackle the national debt. They had assured their constituents that now that Trump is in office, those would be the top priorities. Now that they have the One Big Beautiful Bill in their hands, they see that it's more of the same-ol' same-ol'. Republican Senator Ron Johnson points out that the sum total of the heralded "cuts" is paltry and is just noise in the rounding error. Republican Senator Rand Paul points out that the bill explodes the debt. Essentially, the One Big Beautiful Bill contains all the overspending we would expect if Democrats were in control of both houses, just on different priorities. Many Republicans aren't inclined to pass it, and Democrats are in lock-step to oppose it.

Note: The bill passed in the House by one single solitary vote (215-214).

Ergo, keeping all the popular issues bundled with the sticking points is jeopardizing all the popular issues as well.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

A paradox is two conflicting arguments, NoName. You are contradicting yourself. That's irrational. Go learn English.

Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[ZenMode]

Void argument fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

Denial.

Climate has no temperature, Void.

I didn't say climate HAS a temperature. Stop being dumb.

You ARE playing word games. Go learn English.

Nope. All you.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Random words. No apparent coherency.

yes.

that is the way an illiterate perceives the written word.

 

[Tobytone]

I've noticed a pattern with parrots on both the right and the left; they're all morons and love revisionist history and support sociopathic neuroses and go spastic when they see something that doesn't conform to their fake narratives, like all good commies and social darwinists. Of course, you can't pull it off, and need all these strawmen to knock down, being completely unable to refute anything I said. You're just a dumbass drone.

Plagiarize much? I'm flattered that you're using my comments to try and elevate your own. The problem is you've got it ass-backward as usual. No biscuit for you, again.

 

[EdwinA]

Plagiarize much? I'm flattered that you're using my comments to try and elevate your own. The problem is you've got it ass-backward as usual. No biscuit for you, again.

A parrot babbling about 'plagiarisms'? lol that hilarious.

 

[ZenMode]

Void argument fallacy. Assumption of victory fallacy.

Nope. Deflection.

Climate has no temperature, Void.

I said temperature is a characteristic of climate. Go learn English.

You ARE playing word games. Go learn English.

Nope. You are playing word games and playing dumb. Lots of playing on your part.

 

[ZenMode]

Math error: Void unit.

Climate is a subjective description.

Nope. Climate is determined by multiple characteristics that can be objectively measured over a long period of time: humidity. Rainfall. Temperature, etc

LIF. Grow up.

I have. When will you?

Go learn what 'fact' means.

Stop deflecting to avoid actually addressing what I said.

There is no science of 'climate change'.

Opinion stated as fact.

Climate cannot change

Opinion stated as fact.

Go learn what 'fact' means.

I know what fact means. Stop playing word games.

Climate has no temperature.

Temperature is a characteristic of climate. I've said this like 20 times. Stop deflecting.

Climate cannot change.

Opinion stated as fact.

You are openly discarding the 1st law of thermodynamics.

Nope. You are proving that you are ignorant of how the increasing temperatures, that are believed to occur during to climate change, are believed to happen. You should really educate yourself before taking a position.

You don't agree. You are now locked in paradox. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox. It's irrational.

I do agree and there is no paradox. You just don't know what you're talking about, so you think I don't agree

 

[Tobytone]

Sorry, I can't do it. Now the entire bill is being stonewalled by Senate Republicans because of legitimate fiscal concerns. Senate Republicans are rightly disappointed in the prospect of having to explain to their constituents how they are going to be renegging on all their promises to reduce the deficit and to finally tackle the national debt. They had assured their constituents that now that Trump is in office, those would be the top priorities. Now that they have the One Big Beautiful Bill in their hands, they see that it's more of the same-ol' same-ol'. Republican Senator Ron Johnson points out that the sum total of the heralded "cuts" is paltry and is just noise in the rounding error. Republican Senator Rand Paul points out that the bill explodes the debt. Essentially, the One Big Beautiful Bill contains all the overspending we would expect if Democrats were in control of both houses, just on different priorities. Many Republicans aren't inclined to pass it, and Democrats are in lock-step to oppose it.

Note: The bill passed in the House by one single solitary vote (215-214).

Ergo, keeping all the popular issues bundled with the sticking points is jeopardizing all the popular issues as well.

This is just politics as usual: the chaotic circus that played out in the House is set to get an encore in the Senate. The pre-vote theatrics we’re doomed to endure aren’t about substance, they’re a shameless grab for ratings, not just for cable news vultures but for the tired, predictable coin of political ego-stroking. With razor-thin majorities, grandstanding is as certain as a sunrise, no matter the bill. If the bills pieces were split into standalone bills, each would get snagged by a few rogue holdouts with motives too tangled to guess. The idea of any bill gliding through without a fight? Wishful thinking at best. Only slam-dunk, crowd-pleasing measures like the Laken Riley Act or resolutions dunking on Hamas get every Republican senator to nod in unison.

That said, I’ve always pegged you as one of JPP’s sharper knives, so your skepticism here is frankly baffling. Can't you see the sheer genius of the Trump team’s play with the One Big Beautiful Bill? It’s a political masterclass, cramming everything, economic dynamite, military muscle, locked-down borders, unleashed energy, gutted regulations, school choice, and the non-negotiable cementing of the 2017 tax cuts, into one unstoppable package, all set to detonate by mid-2025. Every Republican senator with an “R” next to their name knows this bill’s a must-pass; it’s not about “if” but how much they can preen for the cameras before grudgingly signing on. Me? I’m just itching for PolyMarket to open a line so I can cash in on the doubters brave enough to bet their paychecks against it.

At this point, it's another wait and see what happens. I've said my piece, and you have as well. For obvious reasons I suspect, in this case we both hope I'm right.

 

[Tobytone]

A parrot babbling about 'plagiarisms'? lol that hilarious.

Still trying to swipe my favorite terms, you unoriginal hack? You can’t even wield “parrot” right, fumbling it like a toddler with a dictionary. Is there a single spark of an original thought in that vacant skull of yours? All you’ve done is regurgitate endless, pilfered rants from randos online, then, because your shade-throwing skills are as weak as your grip on reality, you’ve resorted to copy-pasting my lines. Pathetic.

Try coughing up one idea that didn’t ooze from someone else’s brain for once. I’d call you a parroting libtard drone, but you’re not even sharp enough for that label. You’re just a frothing, paranoid nutcase, a conspiracy-cracked puppet spewing recycled drivel. You don't even make a good pet, no biscuit for you, again.

 

[Into the Night]

Denial.

Random word ignored.

I didn't say climate HAS a temperature. Stop being dumb.

You did. Don't try to deny your own posts.

Nope. All you.

LIF.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. Deflection.

Random word ignored.

I said temperature is a characteristic of climate. Go learn English.

Nope. You are playing word games and playing dumb. Lots of playing on your part.

Climate has no temperature. You can't blame your word games on anybody else.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. Climate is determined by multiple characteristics that can be objectively measured over a long period of time: humidity. Rainfall. Temperature, etc

Climate has no temperature and no measurement. It h as no time interval. It has no rain gauge.

I have. When will you?

Stop deflecting to avoid actually addressing what I said.

Opinion stated as fact.

Opinion stated as fact.

I know what fact means. Stop playing word games.

Go learn what 'fact' means.

Temperature is a characteristic of climate. I've said this like 20 times. Stop deflecting.

Climate has no temperature. Random word ignored.

Opinion stated as fact.

Go learn what 'fact' means.

Nope. You are proving that you are ignorant of how the increasing temperatures, that are believed to occur during to climate change, are believed to happen. You should really educate yourself before taking a position.

Climate has no temperature. Climate cannot change.

I do agree and there is no paradox. You just don't know what you're talking about, so you think I don't agree

You cannot clear your paradox by denying it.

 

[Into the Night]

This is just politics as usual: the chaotic circus that played out in the House is set to get an encore in the Senate. The pre-vote theatrics we’re doomed to endure aren’t about substance, they’re a shameless grab for ratings, not just for cable news vultures but for the tired, predictable coin of political ego-stroking. With razor-thin majorities, grandstanding is as certain as a sunrise, no matter the bill. If the bills pieces were split into standalone bills, each would get snagged by a few rogue holdouts with motives too tangled to guess. The idea of any bill gliding through without a fight? Wishful thinking at best. Only slam-dunk, crowd-pleasing measures like the Laken Riley Act or resolutions dunking on Hamas get every Republican senator to nod in unison.

That said, I’ve always pegged you as one of JPP’s sharper knives, so your skepticism here is frankly baffling. Can't you see the sheer genius of the Trump team’s play with the One Big Beautiful Bill? It’s a political masterclass, cramming everything, economic dynamite, military muscle, locked-down borders, unleashed energy, gutted regulations, school choice, and the non-negotiable cementing of the 2017 tax cuts, into one unstoppable package, all set to detonate by mid-2025. Every Republican senator with an “R” next to their name knows this bill’s a must-pass; it’s not about “if” but how much they can preen for the cameras before grudgingly signing on. Me? I’m just itching for PolyMarket to open a line so I can cash in on the doubters brave enough to bet their paychecks against it.

At this point, it's another wait and see what happens. I've said my piece, and you have as well. For obvious reasons I suspect, in this case we both hope I'm right.

It passed the House, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

Sorry, I can't do it. Now the entire bill is being stonewalled by Senate Republicans because of legitimate fiscal concerns. Senate Republicans are rightly disappointed in the prospect of having to explain to their constituents how they are going to be renegging on all their promises to reduce the deficit and to finally tackle the national debt. They had assured their constituents that now that Trump is in office, those would be the top priorities. Now that they have the One Big Beautiful Bill in their hands, they see that it's more of the same-ol' same-ol'. Republican Senator Ron Johnson points out that the sum total of the heralded "cuts" is paltry and is just noise in the rounding error. Republican Senator Rand Paul points out that the bill explodes the debt. Essentially, the One Big Beautiful Bill contains all the overspending we would expect if Democrats were in control of both houses, just on different priorities. Many Republicans aren't inclined to pass it, and Democrats are in lock-step to oppose it.

Note: The bill passed in the House by one single solitary vote (215-214).

Ergo, keeping all the popular issues bundled with the sticking points is jeopardizing all the popular issues as well.

What overspending?

 

[Tobytone]

It passed the House, dude.

I know, I'm talking about the Senate, dude.

 

[IBDaMann]

What overspending?

You're asking the wrong person. Senate Republicans are holding up the bill because of what they have identified as overspending. Mine is not to demand specifics; mine is to notice that the single, large bill containing everything is being held up by a few sticking points, now specifically what Senate Republicans are citing as insufficient cuts, with each Senator citing his own perceived deficiency in that area and his own perceived imminent consequences of those deficiencies.

It passed the House, dude.

By one single vote, despite a five seat advantage. Republicans have a six seat advantage in the Senate (53-47), but if the five Republican Senators who currently oppose the bill ultimately reject it, the One Big Beautiful Bill will fail by a 48 - 52 margin.

Let's hope we can add some additional cuts and make those five Republican Senators happy as well, and get this show on the road.

 

[EdwinA]

They need to add another $50 billion to the shipbuilding program and another $150 billion to rebuilding our military infrastructure, for one. A federal real estate tax earmarked exclusively for military use would be a great idea.