Tax protester = draft dodger...

SmarterThanYou said:
k, don't mind my asking, but how do you get the nuts to compare tax protesters to draft dodgers if you never fucking served?
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I dont see how my service is relevant, now had I dodged a draft that would make me a hypocrate, but I did not.
 
Jarod said:
Dont forget Cheney and Bush.
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I wouldn't forget....Both Bush's served as fighter pilots in the military and Cheney got deferments.....only Clinton refused to report for duty when called and actively dodged service....with special treatments and gaming the system he dodged military service without technically breaking the law....so says the new liberal history .....
 
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Socrtease said:
Until a court says different paying taxes is the law of the land just as presenting yourself to the draft board was the law of the land. Just because you don't like the law doesn't mean you can ignore it. Both the draft dodger and the tax protester don't like the law that they are ignoring and by ignoring it they both violate the law.
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So protesting taxes is equivalent to not paying them?

Sorry, but I may be missing a piece of the story here.
 
Jarod said:
I dont see how my service is relevant, now had I dodged a draft that would make me a hypocrate, but I did not.
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More of a coward than a hypocrite....we understand....
Bill Clinton was both...a coward and a hypocrite.
 
bravo said:
More of a coward than a hypocrite....we understand....
Bill Clinton was both...a coward and a hypocrite.
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TO choose not to serve does not make one a coward.

Hell, who knows I may not have even gotten in had I applied.
 
My father served, my grandfather served and my great grandfather served.... All because they were called to serve.

My father and grandfather advised me not to serve as long as it was my choice.
 
Jarod said:
My father served, my grandfather served and my great grandfather served.... All because they were called to serve.

My father and grandfather advised me not to serve as long as it was my choice.
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From a long line of "Let someone else do it" crowd.....nothing to be proud of, but thats life.
 
Superfreak said:
So protesting taxes is equivalent to not paying them?

Sorry, but I may be missing a piece of the story here.
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Tax protesters protest by not paying taxes. John L. Cheek was a well known tax protester, that is what he called himself. He protested by not paying taxes. Tax protesters are not people that complain about how high their taxes are. They are someone who refuses to pay a tax on constitutional or legal grounds. Many claim the tax laws are unconstitutional or otherwise invalid. Some refuse to file a tax return or file returns with no income or tax data supplied. Bruce I. Hochman, Michael Popoff, Dennis L. Perez, Charles P. Rettig & Steven R. Toscher, "Tax Crimes," p. A-4, Tax Management Portfolios, Vol. 636, Tax Management, Inc., a subsid. of The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. (1993).
 
My biggest problem with taxes lies in the 16th amendment. It basically took what the founders said "no tax my be laid on direct income" and said "tax will be laid on direct income". It'd be the equivalent of the founders saying "you have a right to free speech" and 100 years later congress says "you do not have a right to free speech".

I understand the need for taxes. My salary for four years was made of tax money. But the current trend in taxes is not the way I want to see things go. Especially excise taxes on goods to try and subtly enforce health or morality or equality or whatever some lobby wants. Taxes are to provide us, the citizens, with a government that can do its job (as outlined by the constitution) and nothing more.
 
Big Gay Al said:
My biggest problem with taxes lies in the 16th amendment. It basically took what the founders said "no tax my be laid on direct income" and said "tax will be laid on direct income". It'd be the equivalent of the founders saying "you have a right to free speech" and 100 years later congress says "you do not have a right to free speech".

I understand the need for taxes. My salary for four years was made of tax money. But the current trend in taxes is not the way I want to see things go. Especially excise taxes on goods to try and subtly enforce health or morality or equality or whatever some lobby wants. Taxes are to provide us, the citizens, with a government that can do its job (as outlined by the constitution) and nothing more.
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Actually the court later ruled that as an excise tax the income tax would've been valid anyway.
 
Socrtease said:
Tax protesters protest by not paying taxes. John L. Cheek was a well known tax protester, that is what he called himself. He protested by not paying taxes. Tax protesters are not people that complain about how high their taxes are. They are someone who refuses to pay a tax on constitutional or legal grounds. Many claim the tax laws are unconstitutional or otherwise invalid. Some refuse to file a tax return or file returns with no income or tax data supplied. Bruce I. Hochman, Michael Popoff, Dennis L. Perez, Charles P. Rettig & Steven R. Toscher, "Tax Crimes," p. A-4, Tax Management Portfolios, Vol. 636, Tax Management, Inc., a subsid. of The Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. (1993).
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No... SOME tax protesters protest by not paying taxes. To suggest that the only way to protest taxes is not paying them is ridiculous.
 
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