If A.I. Systems Become Conscious, Should They Have Rights?

Into the Night said:
Yes

Yes

You're approaching a 12c. Watch it.

Omniscience fallacy.

You have denied logic already, and again in this post.
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Nonsence. You've illogically demanded reality fits your codification structure. You made a codification fallacy. Words do not exist without the codified presupposition that they do. Words are only ideals, not the meaning itself that a word meant to reflect.
 
Into the Night said:
You're approaching a 12c. Watch it.
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LichGold said:
Frank lucas essentially funded the vietnam war with hippy money by selling them the french opium democrats sent us there to protect.

Need a history lesson? Ai can service that request.
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I was asking Into the Night a question about a previous post. Are you answering the question for him? Somehow, I think he'll have a different answer.

Oh, thanks for the history lecture, but I’m good on pulp fiction for now. That brand of "history" you’re dishing out? Prime bathroom reading, spicy enough to keep you glued to the seat, but it’s about as real as a Hollywood blockbuster. For example, Frank Lucas bankrolling the Vietnam War? Sure, and I’m the Easter Bunny. The war burned through a couple hundred billion, give or take, which is a mountain of heroin even for a hustler like Lucas. Care to explain how his street deals covered that tab?

You’re swallowing tales that pluck random side stories, like Lucas’s drug runs, add some CIA, and inflate them into grand conspiracies. A pinch of truth, swirled with heaps of exaggeration, outright fibs, and wild leaps, makes for a juicy book or a Denzel-worthy flick, but in my view, it’s not history. Still, I’m loving many of your comments, live your truth, no shade here. I’m cozy with my grasp of the past, but I appreciate the thought.
 
Tobytone said:
I was asking Into the Night a question about a previous post. Are you answering the question for him? Somehow, I think he'll have a different answer.

Oh, thanks for the history lecture, but I’m good on pulp fiction for now. That brand of "history" you’re dishing out? Prime bathroom reading,
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Why avoid bathroom walls when you're in a public bathroom web space crammed between two stripper services? Some of these ads are kinda interesting.
Tobytone said:
spicy enough to keep you glued to the seat, but it’s about as real as a Hollywood blockbuster. For example, Frank Lucas bankrolling the Vietnam War? Sure, and I’m the Easter Bunny.
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Wut up bunnai?
Tobytone said:
The war burned through a couple hundred billion, give or take, which is a mountain of heroin even for a hustler like Lucas. Care to explain how his street deals covered that tab?
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Where did i say it paid it off? Where did his money go? By hook or crook my point is correct. And then there's air america that ferried his shipments but dont let facts get in your way.
Tobytone said:
You’re swallowing tales that pluck random side stories, like Lucas’s drug runs, add some CIA, and inflate them into grand conspiracies. A pinch of truth, swirled with heaps of exaggeration, outright fibs, and wild leaps, makes for a juicy book or a Denzel-worthy flick,
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So you're thinking there was aver an accurate official narrative where wars are concerned? I might be dumb but im sure as hell not that stupid.

Tobytone said:
but in my view, it’s not history. Still, I’m loving many of your comments, live your truth, no shade here. I’m cozy with my grasp of the past, but I appreciate the thought.
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Got anything related to the topic? Maybe you could puke another post from an ai bot?
 
LichGold said:
Why avoid bathroom walls when you're in a public bathroom web space crammed between two stripper services? Some of these ads are kinda interesting.

Wut up bunnai?

Where did i say it paid it off? Where did his money go? By hook or crook my point is correct. And then there's air america that ferried his shipments but dont let facts get in your way.

So you're thinking there was aver an accurate official narrative where wars are concerned? I might be dumb but im sure as hell not that stupid.


Got anything related to the topic? Maybe you could puke another post from an ai bot?
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You keep reading those spicy novels and those websites packed with the 'truth.' Everyone's got to pay their bills, it's nice you're helping them out. I'm not interested in chasing heroin smuggling in dead men's caskets anymore. Like I said its good toilet reading. I went down that road when I was like 16. We're all young and dumb at some point in our lives. Most snap out of it, but not all.
 
Tobytone said:
You keep reading those spicy novels and those websites packed with the 'truth.' Everyone's got to pay their bills, it's nice you're helping them out. I'm not interested in chasing heroin smuggling in dead men's caskets anymore. Like I said its good toilet reading. I went down that road when I was like 16. We're all young and dumb at some point in our lives. Most snap out of it, but not all.
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Blah blah. I want you to know i did actually skim this post a little.

So is that a no, you're not actually able offer a point contextual to the topic?

Or maybe you just really liked the tacky 'cum rag jesus' point? Would it bother you to know it? You know it wouldn't so just stop whining. About the reading you find wedged between two porn sites.
 
Grok, what is self-awareness?

Self-awareness is the ability to recognize and understand one's own emotions, thoughts, and behaviors. It involves being conscious of oneself as an individual, including one's strengths, weaknesses, and impact on others. This introspective capacity allows for personal growth, better decision-making, and improved relationships.
 
AProudLefty said:
Grok, what is self-awareness?

Self-awareness is the ability to recognize and understand one's own emotions, thoughts, and behaviors. It involves being conscious of oneself as an individual, including one's strengths, weaknesses, and impact on others. This introspective capacity allows for personal growth, better decision-making, and improved relationships.
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Cute philosophy but wildly inaccurate.

In the land of the blind, the one eye'd man is a pariah
 
Grok, do you pass the Turing test?

The Turing Test evaluates whether an AI can exhibit human-like conversational behavior, such that a human judge cannot reliably distinguish it from a human. While there’s no definitive public record of Grok undergoing a formal Turing Test, recent developments in AI provide context. As of April 2025, OpenAI’s GPT-4.5 has passed a three-party Turing Test, convincing participants it was human 73% of the time when prompted to adopt a persona. This sets a high bar for conversational AI.


Grok, developed by xAI, is designed with a focus on humor and truth-seeking, often adopting a unique tone inspired by figures like Douglas Adams. Some posts on X suggest that users believe Grok performs well in conversational settings, with one user noting it "passes the Turing Test most of the time." However, others have expressed skepticism, with comments indicating Grok might fail to convincingly mimic human behavior in certain interactions. These sentiments are inconclusive without formal testing data.


Given that Grok’s design prioritizes a distinct personality over pure human mimicry, it may not consistently fool judges in a rigorous Turing Test setup, especially compared to models like GPT-4.5, which excelled with specific prompting. Without direct evidence of Grok undergoing and passing a standardized Turing Test, it’s uncertain whether it would pass. However, its strong performance in human evaluations, such as scoring 1402 Elo on LMArena as mentioned in an X post, suggests it can engage in highly convincing conversations, even if its unique style might occasionally reveal its artificial nature.
 
LichGold said:
Blah blah. I want you to know i did actually skim this post a little.

So is that a no, you're not actually able offer a point contextual to the topic?

Or maybe you just really liked the tacky 'cum rag jesus' point? Would it bother you to know it? You know it wouldn't so just stop whining. About the reading you find wedged between two porn sites.
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This would be a whole lot more fun if you didn't suck at your analysis, you are way off homie. Let me try: You wake up each morning in mom's basement a hit the Prosaic and a fist full of Xanax. Then it's straight to conspiracy.com for you daily fix of the 'truth.' Will it be 5G mind control, Moon hoax, or pictures of Michelle Obama's penis to kick the day off before mom calls you for breakfast? Am I close?
 
LichGold said:
He is, he's projecting im operating on 1950'scifi
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Not projection. Redefinition fallacy.
LichGold said:
and he's still dropping ancient rhetoric to say it. It's completely projection.
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Not projection. Fallacy fallacy.
LichGold said:
You're the only one posing fallacy fallacies.
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LIF. Grow up.
LichGold said:
Where did i even invoke "fallacy?"
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Already answered. Don't mindlessly repeat your question that's already been answered. RQAA.
LichGold said:
Just because correlation is a word in a common fallacy you like to read, mentioning correlation does not then demand im intending to argue he's posing a fallacy.
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Random words. No apparent coherency.
LichGold said:
Rat smells his own hole first.
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Cliche fallacy. No apparent coherency.
 
LichGold said:
Nonsence.
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Inversion fallacy.
LichGold said:
You've illogically demanded reality fits your codification structure.
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Random words. No apparent coherency.
LichGold said:
You made a codification fallacy.
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No such thing. Buzzword fallacy.
LichGold said:
Words do not exist without the codified presupposition that they do. Words are only ideals, not the meaning itself that a word meant to reflect.
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Denial of proof of identity. Denial of logic. Your word games won't work, Lich.
 
Tobytone said:
This would be a whole lot more fun if you didn't suck at your analysis, you are way off homie. Let me try: You wake up each morning in mom's basement a hit the Prosaic and a fist full of Xanax. Then it's straight to conspiracy.com for you daily fix of the 'truth.' Will it be 5G mind control, Moon hoax, or pictures of Michelle Obama's penis to kick the day off before mom calls you for breakfast? Am I close?
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Idk, i didn't read your post. It has a question mark at the end so i feel compelled to give an answer of some kind. And since im an ambitiously honest person, here ya go. Hope it helps. When you're ready just go ahead an jgfys or something. This thread has a topic unless you want to read more about, "cum rag jesus."
 
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