Atheist conclusions about the historicity of the resurrection

A documentary called Zeitgeist concludes that the idea of ressurection is actually tied to paganism. Quoting from it:
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There is another very interesting phenomenon
that occurs around December 25th, or the winter solstice.
From the summer solstice to the winter solstice, the days become shorter and colder.
From the perspective of the northern hemisphere,
the sun appears to move south and get smaller and more scarce.
The shortening of the days and the expiration
of the crops when approaching the winter solstice symbolized the process of death to the ancients.
It was the death of the Sun.
By December 22nd, the Sun's demise was fully realized,
for the Sun, having moved south continually for 6 months,
makes it to it's lowest point in the sky.
Here a curious thing occurs: the Sun stops moving south, at least perceivably, for 3 days.
During this 3 day pause, the Sun resides
in the vicinity of the Southern Cross, or Crux, constellation.
And after this time on December 25th, the Sun
moves 1 degree, this time north, foreshadowing longer days, warmth, and Spring.
And thus it was said: the Sun died on the cross,
was dead for 3 days, only to be resurrected or born again.
This is why Jesus and numerous other Sun Gods
share the crucifixion, 3-day death, and resurrection concept.
It is the Sun's transition period before it shifts
its direction back into the Northern Hemisphere, bringing Spring, and thus salvation.
However, they did not celebrate the resurrection of the Sun until the spring equinox, or Easter.
This is because at the spring equinox,
the Sun officially overpowers the evil darkness, as daytime thereafter becomes longer in duration
than night, and the revitalizing conditions of spring emerge.


[snip]

Coming back to the cross of the Zodiac,
the figurative life of the Sun,
this was not just an artistic expression or tool to track the Sun's movements.
It was also a Pagan spiritual symbol, the shorthand of which looked like this.
This is not a symbol of Christianity.
It is a Pagan adaptation of the cross of the Zodiac.
This is why Jesus in early occult art is always shown with his head on the cross,
for Jesus is the Sun, the Sun of God, the Light of the World, the Risen Savior,
who will "come again," as it does every morning,
the Glory of God who defends against the works of darkness, as he is "born again" every morning,
and can be seen "coming in the clouds,"
"up in Heaven," with his "Crown of Thorns," or, sun rays.

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Text source:

The above text starts at around 12:20 in the following cut of Zeitgeist, some nice graphics are included:
View: https://youtu.be/pTbIu8Zeqp0?si=0bkOCyXWqOQeHlNX&t=740
I've only seen the first one. It's a conspiracy theorist wackadoodle movie.

Blasphemy :-)!
 
I've only seen the first one. It's a conspiracy theorist wackadoodle movie.
Blasphemy!
Only according to conspiracy theorist whackjobs. :)

I had hoped my saying that word would remind you of a passage from the documentary from David Ray Griffin. Quoting it:
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A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.

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Source:
 
I had hoped my saying that word would remind you of a passage from the documentary from David Ray Griffin. Quoting it:
**
A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.

**

Source:
Yeah. If you read through this thread, you'd know that what I've previously posted is also blasphemy according the Fundies. I'm just not a conspiracy theorist nutjob.
 
I had hoped my saying that word would remind you of a passage from the documentary from David Ray Griffin. Quoting it:
**
A myth is an idea that, while widely believed, is false.
In a deeper sense, in the religious sense, a myth serves as an orienting and mobilizng story for people.
The focus is not on the story's relation to reality but on its function.
A story cannot function, unless it is believed to be true in the community or the nation.
It is not a matter of debate if some people have the bad taste to raise the question of the truth of the sacred story.
The keepers of the faith do not enter into the debate with them.
They ignore them, or denounce them as blasphemers.

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Source:
Yeah. If you read through this thread, you'd know that what I've previously posted is also blasphemy according the Fundies.

I can believe it :-p.

I'm just not a conspiracy theorist nutjob.

One man's beliefs is another man's blasphemy- the epithets given may vary, but it's the same idea.
 
I can believe it :-p.



One man's beliefs is another man's blasphemy- the epithets given may vary, but it's the same idea.
but morality is common across all religions, for the most part.

christs innovation is that the ingroup morality applies to all. even strangers.
 
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