Republicans lost a good one today.!

I just love to see the RINO talk.

KEEP IT UP !

It makes me sooo fricking happy.

There is no place in the party for anyone who doesnt do the Palin dance.

Hurry up and find some more people to kick out of the party.

Latinos are leaving , you never had any blacks to speak and young people wont stay unless you treat them to lap dances.

I think you need to work on how to piss off Asians
 
I just love to see the RINO talk.

KEEP IT UP !

It makes me sooo fricking happy.

There is no place in the party for anyone who doesnt do the Palin dance.

Hurry up and find some more people to kick out of the party.

Latinos are leaving , you never had any blacks to speak and young people wont stay unless you treat them to lap dances.

I think you need to work on how to piss off Asians


Don't you talk about people not being true Democrats because they don't follow the Democratic platform?

Doesn't mean you can't root for the Republican Party to self destruct but it is rather funny when you complain about the same thing in your own party.
 
I don't really have much to say about Crist going independent. The weirdest think to me in this story is the "Loyalty Oath" that members of the Florida GOP are required to sign and follow at risk of being kicked out of the party. I understand party discipline and all, but a "Loyalty Oath" seems like a bit much.
 
Don't you talk about people not being true Democrats because they don't follow the Democratic platform?

Doesn't mean you can't root for the Republican Party to self destruct but it is rather funny when you complain about the same thing in your own party.

What do you not like Topspin?
 
Don't you talk about people not being true Democrats because they don't follow the Democratic platform?

Doesn't mean you can't root for the Republican Party to self destruct but it is rather funny when you complain about the same thing in your own party.

Where did I do that?

I dont like it when anyone votes for failed ideas like the republicans have been doing for decades now.

Now do you realise there is no DINO talk from us is there.

You awalys hear RINO though
 
I just love to see the RINO talk.

KEEP IT UP !

It makes me sooo fricking happy.

There is no place in the party for anyone who doesnt do the Palin dance.

Hurry up and find some more people to kick out of the party.

Latinos are leaving , you never had any blacks to speak and young people wont stay unless you treat them to lap dances.

I think you need to work on how to piss off Asians

How is old Joe Lieberman?
 
Where did I do that?

I dont like it when anyone votes for failed ideas like the republicans have been doing for decades now.

Now do you realise there is no DINO talk from us is there.

You awalys hear RINO though

You've done it on here in the past. I don't save everything you post but i remember well you saying they weren't true Democrats because they didn't vote along with the platform.

And yes there has been DINO talk when Democrats and liberals and progressives on the board complain about some of the Blue Dogs not being real Democrats.
 
Christ is a perfect example of the extremism that has enveloped the Republican party. Intellectual conformity rules the day. There is no room for diversity of views or opinion. All must march in lock step.

I say the Republicans loss should be the Democrats gain. I think the Democrats should welcome a center right moderate like Christ with open arms

:rofl:

it's funny because you actually believe that.
 
Is that to imply there weren't Democrats screaming for Lieberman's head?

I misread PMP's comment. I thought he was suggesting that there was no room in the Democratic Party for those that don't do the Obama dance when what he was really saying was that there is no room in Republican Party for those that do the Obama dance. My mistake. In any event, below is my response to you:


Not at all. But "the party" didn't kick him out. He caucuses with the Democrats and maintained his committee chairmanship. The rank and file may not have liked it, but the party made room for Joe Lieberman notwithstanding that he actively campaigned against the Party's nominee for president, actively campaigned for the Republican candidate and was even a key speaker at the RNC convention.
 
Of what caucus do you think Crist will be a member? I doubt he burns all his bridges. Not unless he has some other route in mind. He's not dumb.


I don't know. It's hard to speculate. Lieberman was already a Senator and member of the Democratic caucus when he went independent. With Crist being a newcomer to the Senate, I'm not so sure that it would be a given that he'd caucus with Republicans. The Republicans are much much more protective of party loyalty that the Democrats in this regard. In the end, I think it would come down to whether the Republicans need Crist. If they don't, he'll be gone. He could end up a caucus of one.
 
I don't know. It's hard to speculate. Lieberman was already a Senator and member of the Democratic caucus when he went independent. With Crist being a newcomer to the Senate, I'm not so sure that it would be a given that he'd caucus with Republicans. The Republicans are much much more protective of party loyalty that the Democrats in this regard. In the end, I think it would come down to whether the Republicans need Crist. If they don't, he'll be gone. He could end up a caucus of one.

Wouldn't it also depend on what type of campaign he runs? I'm assuming he will have to tell voters which way he is leaning. If he says he is an independent and then ends up caucusing with one party or the other and voting that way a strong majority of the time I can imagine a lot of pissed off voters.
 
I don't know. It's hard to speculate. Lieberman was already a Senator and member of the Democratic caucus when he went independent. With Crist being a newcomer to the Senate, I'm not so sure that it would be a given that he'd caucus with Republicans. The Republicans are much much more protective of party loyalty that the Democrats in this regard. In the end, I think it would come down to whether the Republicans need Crist. If they don't, he'll be gone. He could end up a caucus of one.

lmao...that is simply not true....
 
I misread PMP's comment. I thought he was suggesting that there was no room in the Democratic Party for those that don't do the Obama dance when what he was really saying was that there is no room in Republican Party for those that do the Obama dance. My mistake. In any event, below is my response to you:


Not at all. But "the party" didn't kick him out. He caucuses with the Democrats and maintained his committee chairmanship. The rank and file may not have liked it, but the party made room for Joe Lieberman notwithstanding that he actively campaigned against the Party's nominee for president, actively campaigned for the Republican candidate and was even a key speaker at the RNC convention.

he was villified nigel...give me a break...he kept his chairmanship because they needed him, the vast majority wanted him out, but they were afraid of losing his vote

its cute how you repaint history in the light most favorable to the dems and the opposite regarding pubs
 
I don't really have much to say about Crist going independent. The weirdest think to me in this story is the "Loyalty Oath" that members of the Florida GOP are required to sign and follow at risk of being kicked out of the party. I understand party discipline and all, but a "Loyalty Oath" seems like a bit much.

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5367

Kucinich struck another blow for democracy by challenging the restrictive loyalty oath required by the Texas Democratic Party to get on the primary ballot. He actually reads the contracts he signs. When presented with the loyalty oath required to run as a Democrat in the Texas primary, Kucinich prudently edited the document to reflect the requirements of free citizens living in a democracy:

"I, ______________ of __________________, __________ County/Parish, _____________, being a candidate for the Office of President of the United States, swear that I will support and defend the constitution and laws of the United States. I further swear that I will fully support the Democratic nominee for President whoever that shall be."
 
I don't know. It's hard to speculate. Lieberman was already a Senator and member of the Democratic caucus when he went independent. With Crist being a newcomer to the Senate, I'm not so sure that it would be a given that he'd caucus with Republicans. The Republicans are much much more protective of party loyalty that the Democrats in this regard. In the end, I think it would come down to whether the Republicans need Crist. If they don't, he'll be gone. He could end up a caucus of one.

Crist may be new to the Senate, but he is not new to politics. I doubt he burns his bridges. Lieberman, if anything, was in better position to do that due to his veteran status. The only way Crist does it is if he is sure he's coming out ahead with some new found allies. My guess is, if he gets in this way then he will cozy back up to the GOP.

The idea that Crist was kicked out is what he wants you to think. He lost and now is looking to make it look like it was really his choice and commitment to some higher goal that has inspired this action. He does not have any goals higher than attaining office.

Members of the GOP elite may actually be a participating in his gambit.
 
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