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arizona legislature passes bill that requires any person that does not look like an american citizen to produces papers proving that they are a citizens or a legal resident

all it requires is the governors signature

however, i think that it is unconstitutional on the face of it:eek:
 
one would think that the arizona legislators would be smarter than this, instead of listening to the vocal minority. This will be ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts, the toughest sheriff in america will ignore the ruling anyway.

i say do it joe, bring down the federal heat on your sorry ass.
 
one would think that the arizona legislators would be smarter than this, instead of listening to the vocal minority. This will be ruled unconstitutional by the federal courts, the toughest sheriff in america will ignore the ruling anyway.

i say do it joe, bring down the federal heat on your sorry ass.

I agree, how could anybody think this is constitutional.


I would love to see joe put away for a long, long time.
 
arizona legislature passes bill that requires any person that does not look like an american citizen to produces papers proving that they are a citizens or a legal resident

all it requires is the governors signature

however, i think that it is unconstitutional on the face of it:eek:

link?

given american citizens represent virtually, if not all, peoples of the earth
 
link?

given american citizens represent virtually, if not all, peoples of the earth

i got this from cnn

the arizona legislature has passed the bill and the governor has indicated support

the bill has more than majority support among arizona voters (approximately 74% support)
 
arizona legislature passes bill that requires any person that does not look like an american citizen to produces papers proving that they are a citizens or a legal resident

all it requires is the governors signature

however, i think that it is unconstitutional on the face of it:eek:

I was listening to Tom Hartman show today, and a woman called in and stated that as a Native American, she is many times mistaken for Mexican. She fears that a LOT of her people will be rousted and/or "detained" if this law passes.

And where's Sen McCain's thundering denouncement of all this?
 
arizona legislature passes bill that requires any person that does not look like an american citizen to produces papers proving that they are a citizens or a legal resident

all it requires is the governors signature

however, i think that it is unconstitutional on the face of it:eek:

Just attempting to level the honesty field here; but I saw the Bill and I don't remember seeing the words you've used.
Could you refer me to the copy you read??
Thanks
 
Just attempting to level the honesty field here; but I saw the Bill and I don't remember seeing the words you've used.
Could you refer me to the copy you read??
Thanks

what i wrote was from what i got from cnn

a later session said that if a police officer thought that a person was an alien or perhaps i should say an illegal alien that they could require that person to show proof of citizenship or legal residence, but the key point was it would be in the opinion of the police officer

if you know different, please post it
 
what i wrote was from what i got from cnn

a later session said that if a police officer thought that a person was an alien or perhaps i should say an illegal alien that they could require that person to show proof of citizenship or legal residence, but the key point was it would be in the opinion of the police officer

if you know different, please post it

My understanding is that if you're stopped for a civil or criminal violation and the Officer has a suspicion that you are an illegal, then you can be asked for proof of citizenship.
But since everyone is asked for proof of insurance, vehicle registration, and a Drivers License, what is the problem??
 
i got this from cnn

the arizona legislature has passed the bill and the governor has indicated support

the bill has more than majority support among arizona voters (approximately 74% support)

i specifically asked for a link to this:

does not look like an american citizen

where does it say that in the bill? you made the claim
 
And where's Sen McCain's thundering denouncement of all this?

Are you kidding? He's a politician and the thing's got 74% public approval and state legislative and gubernatorial support. He ain't gonna touch this thing with a 10 ft. pole. Or maybe that was a rhetorical question you asked. ;)
 
All americans deserve the protections of enforced immigration laws. Pretend it's the border of israel, that will make all you noahides feel better about it.
 
i specifically asked for a link to this:

does not look like an american citizen

where does it say that in the bill? you made the claim


The bill requires law enforcement officers to determine the immigration status of any individual that the law enforcement officer has reasonably suspect is an illegal alien. It isn't much of a stretch to suggest that such suspicion will be based on the appearance of the individual.
 
The bill requires law enforcement officers to determine the immigration status of any individual that the law enforcement officer has reasonably suspect is an illegal alien. It isn't much of a stretch to suggest that such suspicion will be based on the appearance of the individual.

Thirsty mexicans stumbling around near the border are highly suspect.
 
The bill requires law enforcement officers to determine the immigration status of any individual that the law enforcement officer has reasonably suspect is an illegal alien. It isn't much of a stretch to suggest that such suspicion will be based on the appearance of the individual.

do you have a problem with officer's stopping suspicious people on the street if they reasonably suspect a crime has been committed?

what about customs officers? border agents? they can both stop and search your person, belongings for less cause. do you also believe that is wrong?

and once again, you can't show me from the bill where it says that.
 
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