IBDaMann
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Not this particular individual's.
Just out of curiosity, what bombing do you believe the USA has done in Afghanistan in the last 20 years?
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Just out of curiosity, what bombing do you believe the USA has done in Afghanistan in the last 20 years?
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The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. The concept comes from certain hadiths and interpretations of those hadiths vary. This answer explores the Islamic concept of Paradise and the rewards for the righteous, while clarifying the hadith about 72 virgins.
Muslims believe in the concept of Paradise, a reward for the righteous in the afterlife (Surah Al-Baqarah [The Cow] 2:82). Paradise is described as a place of eternal bliss and beauty, with various delights for those who enter (Surah ?????? [The Most Gracious] 55:46-78). A common misconception exists about the Quran promising 72 virgins to all Muslims in Paradise. This answer will look at the concept of rewards in Paradise and clarify the hadith mentioning 72 virgins.
Conclusion
The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. Islamic descriptions of Paradise emphasize spiritual rewards and closeness to Allah (swt) as the ultimate source of joy and fulfillment. The concept of 72 houris stems from a specific hadith, whose interpretation deserves careful consideration within the broader context of Islamic teachings.
Misinterpretations of these hadiths can over-emphasize physical aspects and detract from the true essence of Paradise. It's crucial to remember that Paradise is about more than physical pleasures-it's about spiritual bliss, attaining God's favor and living in harmony with His divine purpose.
For Muslims seeking a deeper understanding of Paradise and divine rewards, it's advisable to consult with qualified Islamic scholars and reputable sources that provide balanced and informed perspectives.
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Muslims believe in the concept of Paradise, a reward for the righteous in the afterlife (Surah Al-Baqarah [The Cow] 2:82). Paradise is described as a place of eternal bliss and beauty, with various delights for those who enter (Surah ?????? [The Most Gracious] 55:46-78). A common misconception exists about the Quran promising 72 virgins to all Muslims in Paradise. This answer will look at the concept of rewards in Paradise and clarify the hadith mentioning 72 virgins.
Conclusion
The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. Islamic descriptions of Paradise emphasize spiritual rewards and closeness to Allah (swt) as the ultimate source of joy and fulfillment. The concept of 72 houris stems from a specific hadith, whose interpretation deserves careful consideration within the broader context of Islamic teachings.
Misinterpretations of these hadiths can over-emphasize physical aspects and detract from the true essence of Paradise. It's crucial to remember that Paradise is about more than physical pleasures-it's about spiritual bliss, attaining God's favor and living in harmony with His divine purpose.
For Muslims seeking a deeper understanding of Paradise and divine rewards, it's advisable to consult with qualified Islamic scholars and reputable sources that provide balanced and informed perspectives.
Where does the Quran mention 72 virgins?
In a Nutshell:The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. The concept comes from certain hadiths and interpretations of those hadiths vary. This answer explores the Islamic...
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christiefan915
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According to Muslims at the time the Qur'an was written, between 610 and 632 CE.According to Muslims.
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The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. The concept comes from certain hadiths and interpretations of those hadiths vary. This answer explores the Islamic concept of Paradise and the rewards for the righteous, while clarifying the hadith about 72 virgins.
Muslims believe in the concept of Paradise, a reward for the righteous in the afterlife (Surah Al-Baqarah [The Cow] 2:82). Paradise is described as a place of eternal bliss and beauty, with various delights for those who enter (Surah ?????? [The Most Gracious] 55:46-78). A common misconception exists about the Quran promising 72 virgins to all Muslims in Paradise. This answer will look at the concept of rewards in Paradise and clarify the hadith mentioning 72 virgins.
Conclusion
The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. Islamic descriptions of Paradise emphasize spiritual rewards and closeness to Allah (swt) as the ultimate source of joy and fulfillment. The concept of 72 houris stems from a specific hadith, whose interpretation deserves careful consideration within the broader context of Islamic teachings.
Misinterpretations of these hadiths can over-emphasize physical aspects and detract from the true essence of Paradise. It's crucial to remember that Paradise is about more than physical pleasures-it's about spiritual bliss, attaining God's favor and living in harmony with His divine purpose.
For Muslims seeking a deeper understanding of Paradise and divine rewards, it's advisable to consult with qualified Islamic scholars and reputable sources that provide balanced and informed perspectives.
Where does the Quran mention 72 virgins?
In a Nutshell:The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. The concept comes from certain hadiths and interpretations of those hadiths vary. This answer explores the Islamic...
According to Muslims ... again.
christiefan915
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[Not an Islamic scholar] Gad Saad's commentary on Islam has been contentious, leading to debates about the accuracy and motives behind his statements. Here's a nuanced examination based on available information:Is Islam a Religion of Peace?
Is Islam a Religion of Peace? (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_794) | The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad
This clip stems from the XSpaces session that I hosted on February 13, 2025: https://x.com/GadSaad/status/1890207665391022246 _______________________________________ If you appreciate my work and would like to support it: https://subscribestar.com/the-saad-truth https://patreon.com/GadSaad...thesaadtruthwithdrsaad.podbean.com
- Criticism and Accusations of Misrepresentation:
- Selective Focus: Critics argue that Saad sometimes focuses on extreme interpretations or actions by some Muslims to generalize about Islam as a whole. This can lead to an oversimplified narrative that might not capture the full spectrum of Islamic beliefs and practices.
- Historical Context: There are claims that he might overlook the historical context or the diversity within Islamic thought, potentially misrepresenting the religion by not acknowledging reforms, interpretations, or the vast majority of Muslims who do not support extremism.
- Public Perception: Posts on platforms like X have shown a divide. Some users support his critiques, while others accuse him of misrepresenting Islam for political or ideological reasons. For instance, some posts suggest he might downplay or reinterpret historical Islamic conquests or the complexity of geopolitical issues involving Muslim-majority countries.
- From a critic's viewpoint: He might be seen as misrepresenting or exaggerating certain aspects for an agenda, thus not providing a balanced view.
- From his defenders' perspective: He might be viewed as speaking uncomfortable truths about aspects of Islam that are often shielded from critique.
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SlaveForChrist
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The Arabic is unequivocal in its command form: “فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ حَيْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ” (“Kill them wherever you find them”). There is no magical conditional wording within that specific sentence limiting it to only those engaged in hostilities. The same verse ends: “ذَٰلِكَ جَزَاءُ الْكَافِرِينَ” (“Such is the recompense of the disbelievers”). It explicitly uses the word kafirīn— “disbelievers”—which shows that the verse's lethal action is to be directed not simply at some idolaters with a peace treaty, but against those identified as unbelievers.
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IBDaMann
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Your knee-jerk equivocation is standard leftist dishonesty.
You don't even understand that Muslims are taught that the Arabic language is the language of Allah.
At least 3 surahs emphasize this point, stating that an Arabic Q'ran is needed for all to understand.
You are lying, like a typical leftist. The Arabic word for "infidel" is كَافِر (kafir) and means "unbeliever," whether or not he is an idolater. The word for "idolater" is مُشْرِك (mushrik) and that is not the word in question.
christiefan915
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Have you read the Quran? Have you researched any websites of Islamic scholars?According to Muslims ... again.
Where does the Quran mention 72 virgins?
In a Nutshell:The Quran itself doesn't mention 72 virgins as a reward in Paradise. The concept comes from certain hadiths and interpretations of those hadiths vary. This answer explores the Islamic...
www.islamiqate.com
72 Virgins for Martyrs: Making Sense of One of the Rewards of Paradise -
Answered by Shaykh Faraz A. Khan Question: I don’t understand the reward of 72 virgins in heaven. How do I make sense of this? Is there actually any basis in Islam about it, and how can i explain it t
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Number of wives for the martyr in Paradise
Explore the significance of the number of wives promised to martyrs in Paradise according to Islamic teachings. This discussion delves into hadiths that state martyrs will receive 72 wives from alhoor al‘ayn, while others mention a believer may enjoy companionship with up to 100 virgins...
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christiefan915
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"First of all, it must be clearly understood that there is no place in the Holy Quran in which Muslims are commanded to kill ‘infidels of the world’ as the person asserted. This is totally false, and a blatant lie and misinterpretation of the teachings of Islam. It seems that the Muslim to whom the other person was speaking, was not a scholar of Islam nor was he aware of the true teachings of Islam.
There is absolutely no ‘order’, ‘command’ or teaching in the Holy Quran or traditions of the Prophet (S.A) that gives an allowance for a Muslim to kill anyone who is not of his faith. It seems that the writer of the article was ‘putting words in the Muslim’s mouth’, and did not give him a chance to explain anything, or he simply wanted to present the ‘idea of a few radical Muslims’ as a teaching of Islam. One which does not exist in Islam.
Look at the statement of the writer, ‘So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in heaven. Is that correct?’
This question of the writer shows that he had already ‘fixed his notion of Islam’ in his mind, and he wanted to get it correct. It does not matter what the answer of the Muslim guy was, since anyone can say anything today (as we see in the media). What really matters is whether or not the ‘notion’ of the writer was in accordance to the teachings of Islam. Anyone who has a bit of true information of Islam will immediately conclude that the writer’s ‘notion of Islam’ was totally unfounded and absurd.
How can this statement be true, when the Prophet (S.A) himself signed a peace treaty with the Christians and Jews to live in harmony in the city of Madina, and he continued to live with them until he died.
How can the writer’s claim be correct, when the Holy Quran has respectfully addressed the Jews and Christians (who are not of the faith of the Muslims) to be ‘people of the Book’. In other words, they have not even been referred to as unbelievers, instead, the Quran acknowledged the fact that they were given true divine scriptures and had true Prophets.
The ‘fabricated understanding’ of the writer also becomes glaring when we look at the fact that the Holy Quran has given the allowance for Muslim men to marry Christian and Jewish women, and to live with them in love and happiness. When this teaching has been given in the Quran, how can one say that Muslims are ordered to kill those who do not belong to their faith?
The Holy Quran and Infidels - IslamQA
Assalamualikum, Below is an email that was sent to me by a non-muslim friend of mine. She wanted some clarification on this matter. Jazakallah. Subject: What’s an Infidel? I hope you will read this a
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Why would I trust a Muslim fairy tale book to tell the truth about anything?
I judge Islamists by their deadly deeds.
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The Holy Quran and Infidels - IslamQA
Assalamualikum, Below is an email that was sent to me by a non-muslim friend of mine. She wanted some clarification on this matter. Jazakallah. Subject: What’s an Infidel? I hope you will read this a
Muslims again.
christiefan915
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Non sequitur, huh?
christiefan915
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You don't judge Christians by their deadly deeds. You don't refer to killers by their religion unless they're Muslims.Cute dance, pretty kitty, but it won't work.
Why would I trust a Muslim fairy tale book to tell the truth about anything?
I judge Islamists by their deadly deeds.
SlaveForChrist
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Calling me a ‘parrot of bigots’ doesn’t change the literal words in 9:5. If you believe you have a compelling explanation for why the text says ‘kill the idolaters wherever you find them,’ then present it. But just insulting me doesn’t nullify the fact that this verse does command Muslims to kill unbelievers.
Of course I understand the Qur’an was written by a child rapist and pedophile over two decades and references specific battles of that era. But the verse itself, 9:5, limit its message to one historical conflict. If it did it would specify exactly what individual group it was referring to. Instead, it literally says: ‘kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.’
See my previous post on your mistranslations
IBDaMann
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To be fair, the surah you are citing is tightly cropped and devoid of context. Where the Q'ran calls for killing the infidels wherever they are (there are two such occasions) it refers to those who persecute Muslims for their Muslim faith, and who are attacking them in war/battle ... adding that any infidel who seeks protection from Muslims must be forthwith granted such.
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