Are you angry about triumphant Trumps' acts of clemency? Let's compare!

christiefan915 said:
I read the wrong information in Post #1 several times, just to be sure of my facts when responding with the correct information.
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So you say.

The clemency process in the United States can vary slightly depending on the jurisdiction, but here's an outline of how it generally works at the federal level:

Types of Clemency
  • Pardon: An official forgiveness of a crime, which can restore rights lost due to the conviction, like voting or gun ownership rights.
  • Commutation: Reduces the sentence, either in terms of time served or the type of punishment.
  • Reprieve: A temporary postponement of the execution of a sentence, typically for a specific period.
  • Remission: Reduces the amount of a fine or the time left to serve.
  • Amnesty: Typically granted to groups, it forgives certain crimes, usually for political reasons or after a change in government.

Steps in the Clemency Process:
  1. Application:
    • Individual Submission: A person convicted of a crime or their representative can apply for clemency. The application is submitted to the Office of the Pardon Attorney at the Department of Justice.
    • Required Information: The application usually includes personal details, details of the conviction, post-conviction behavior, reasons for seeking clemency, and supporting documentation like letters of support, evidence of rehabilitation, etc.
  2. Investigation:
    • Review by the Pardon Attorney: The Office of the Pardon Attorney conducts an investigation, which might involve contacting the sentencing judge, local prosecutors, and others involved in the original case. They also look into the applicant's post-conviction life, including employment, community service, and rehabilitation efforts.
  3. Recommendation:
    • The Pardon Attorney prepares a report with a recommendation on whether clemency should be granted. This recommendation is sent to the Deputy Attorney General.
  4. Decision-Making:
    • Deputy Attorney General: Reviews the recommendation and can either make further comments or send it directly to the White House.
    • White House: The President's counsel reviews the case. Ultimately, the decision to grant clemency lies with the President of the United States.
  5. Granting Clemency:
    • If the President decides to grant clemency, a clemency warrant is issued.
    • For commutations, the Bureau of Prisons or state correctional facilities are notified to adjust the sentence accordingly.
    • For pardons, the individual might need to take additional steps to restore rights or clear records.
  6. Public Notification:
    • The Department of Justice typically announces granted clemencies publicly, often through press releases or updates on their website.

Key Considerations:
  • Timing: Clemency can be sought at any time, but it's often more common after someone has served a significant portion of their sentence or demonstrated substantial rehabilitation.
  • Political and Public Opinion: Presidents might consider public perception, the nature of the crime, and the political climate when making decisions.
  • Criteria: There's no strict set of criteria; each case is evaluated on its merits, but good behavior, acceptance of responsibility, and contributions to society post-conviction are influential.

The process reflects a balance between the need for justice, mercy, and the potential for rehabilitation, with the President having broad discretion in exercising this constitutional power.


@Grok
 
Diogenes said:
If someone is granted clemency, it does not automatically mean they are released from prison. Clemency can take several forms, including:
  • Pardon: This is an official forgiveness of a crime, which might remove some or all of the legal consequences, but it does not always result in immediate release from prison.
  • Commutation: This reduces the sentence, which could mean a prisoner is released if the new sentence has been served, or it might just mean the remainder of the sentence is shortened.
  • Reprieve: This is a temporary delay of punishment, not a release.
  • Amnesty: Often granted to groups, it can lead to release, but it's more about forgiving the offense rather than immediately freeing individuals.
  • Remission: This reduces the amount of time a prisoner must serve, but doesn't necessarily mean immediate release.

Therefore, whether someone granted clemency is released from prison depends on the specific type of clemency granted and the terms of that clemency. For instance, a commutation might lead to release if the new sentence term has been met, whereas a pardon might not change the current prison term but could clear one's record for future purposes. Each case can vary based on legal specifics and the discretion of the authority granting clemency.


@Grok


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In what universe does this mean that Whitted was still in prison after you said he was let out for "non-violent drug offenses." :unsure:

"Please, say hello to Genesis Lee Whitted Jr. Braindead Messiah Biden granted him clemency as part of his pardon spree to let people out for "non-violent drug offenses."
 
christiefan915 said:
"Please, say hello to Genesis Lee Whitted Jr.

Braindead Messiah Biden granted him clemency as part of his pardon spree to let people out for "non-violent drug offenses."
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Yes, and?

Individuals are not always named in grants of clemency, especially when it comes to certain types of clemency:

  • Amnesty: This is often granted to groups rather than individuals, particularly in cases involving political offenses or after major political changes. Here, specific names might not be listed; instead, a category or group of people is described (e.g., amnesty for all who committed a certain offense before a specific date).
  • Mass Clemency Actions: Sometimes, a president or governor might grant clemency to numerous individuals at once, particularly for similar types of offenses like non-violent drug crimes. In these cases, while each person granted clemency might be listed officially, public announcements might not name everyone explicitly but rather mention the number of people and the general criteria for clemency.

@Grok


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Diogenes said:
So you say.

The clemency process in the United States can vary slightly depending on the jurisdiction, but here's an outline of how it generally works at the federal level:

Types of Clemency
  • Pardon: An official forgiveness of a crime, which can restore rights lost due to the conviction, like voting or gun ownership rights.
  • Commutation: Reduces the sentence, either in terms of time served or the type of punishment.
  • Reprieve: A temporary postponement of the execution of a sentence, typically for a specific period.
  • Remission: Reduces the amount of a fine or the time left to serve.
  • Amnesty: Typically granted to groups, it forgives certain crimes, usually for political reasons or after a change in government.

Steps in the Clemency Process:
  1. Application:
    • Individual Submission: A person convicted of a crime or their representative can apply for clemency. The application is submitted to the Office of the Pardon Attorney at the Department of Justice.
    • Required Information: The application usually includes personal details, details of the conviction, post-conviction behavior, reasons for seeking clemency, and supporting documentation like letters of support, evidence of rehabilitation, etc.
  2. Investigation:
    • Review by the Pardon Attorney: The Office of the Pardon Attorney conducts an investigation, which might involve contacting the sentencing judge, local prosecutors, and others involved in the original case. They also look into the applicant's post-conviction life, including employment, community service, and rehabilitation efforts.
  3. Recommendation:
    • The Pardon Attorney prepares a report with a recommendation on whether clemency should be granted. This recommendation is sent to the Deputy Attorney General.
  4. Decision-Making:
    • Deputy Attorney General: Reviews the recommendation and can either make further comments or send it directly to the White House.
    • White House: The President's counsel reviews the case. Ultimately, the decision to grant clemency lies with the President of the United States.
  5. Granting Clemency:
    • If the President decides to grant clemency, a clemency warrant is issued.
    • For commutations, the Bureau of Prisons or state correctional facilities are notified to adjust the sentence accordingly.
    • For pardons, the individual might need to take additional steps to restore rights or clear records.
  6. Public Notification:
    • The Department of Justice typically announces granted clemencies publicly, often through press releases or updates on their website.

Key Considerations:
  • Timing: Clemency can be sought at any time, but it's often more common after someone has served a significant portion of their sentence or demonstrated substantial rehabilitation.
  • Political and Public Opinion: Presidents might consider public perception, the nature of the crime, and the political climate when making decisions.
  • Criteria: There's no strict set of criteria; each case is evaluated on its merits, but good behavior, acceptance of responsibility, and contributions to society post-conviction are influential.

The process reflects a balance between the need for justice, mercy, and the potential for rehabilitation, with the President having broad discretion in exercising this constitutional power.


@Grok
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It's not necessary to keep :bdh:about clemency, because we both know that Whitted never got it.
 
Diogenes said:
Yes, and?

Individuals are not always named in grants of clemency, especially when it comes to certain types of clemency:

  • Amnesty: This is often granted to groups rather than individuals, particularly in cases involving political offenses or after major political changes. Here, specific names might not be listed; instead, a category or group of people is described (e.g., amnesty for all who committed a certain offense before a specific date).
  • Mass Clemency Actions: Sometimes, a president or governor might grant clemency to numerous individuals at once, particularly for similar types of offenses like non-violent drug crimes. In these cases, while each person granted clemency might be listed officially, public announcements might not name everyone explicitly but rather mention the number of people and the general criteria for clemency.

@Grok


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However, Y O U said he was named in Biden's so-called pardon spree.

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christiefan915 said:
In what universe does this mean that Whitted was still in prison after you said he was let out for "non-violent drug offenses." :unsure:

"Please, say hello to Genesis Lee Whitted Jr. Braindead Messiah Biden granted him clemency as part of his pardon spree to let people out for "non-violent drug offenses."
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I specifically did not state that Genesis Lee Whitted Jr. was let of out of prison.

I said that Braindead Messiah Biden granted him clemency as part of his pardon spree to let people out for non-violent drug offenses. :tongout:
 
The coup de grâce ...



anBn




Here are two examples of mass clemency in the United States, where executive powers were used to grant clemency to large groups:

  1. President Joe Biden (2024-2025):
    • December 12, 2024: Biden commuted the sentences of 1,499 people and pardoned 39 others convicted of non-violent offenses who had been released to home confinement during the COVID-19 pandemic, described as "the largest single-day grant of clemency in modern history."
    • January 17, 2025: Biden granted clemency to nearly 2,500 non-violent drug offenders, focusing on correcting sentencing disparities for crack cocaine-related crimes.

@Grok
 
Diogenes said:
When dealing with large groups, the specifics of who receives clemency might be less publicly detailed. :readit:

@Grok

What's wrong with my thread title? :dunno:
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  • Recent Developments: There are mentions of Genesis Lee Whitted Jr. receiving some form of clemency or pardon for non-violent drug offenses by President Biden, which has stirred controversy given his violent criminal history. This is based on posts on X, indicating public sentiment or discussion around this event, though it should be noted that X posts can sometimes contain inaccurate or misleading information and should be treated with caution.
Please note, the information on Genesis Whitted's current status or further legal actions post-pardon are not detailed in the provided contexts, which might require additional research for a more current picture.

@Grok
 
christiefan915 said:
  • Recent Developments: There are mentions of Genesis Lee Whitted Jr. receiving some form of clemency or pardon for non-violent drug offenses by President Biden, which has stirred controversy given his violent criminal history. This is based on posts on X, indicating public sentiment or discussion around this event, though it should be noted that X posts can sometimes contain inaccurate or misleading information and should be treated with caution.
Please note, the information on Genesis Whitted's current status or further legal actions post-pardon are not detailed in the provided contexts, which might require additional research for a more current picture.

@Grok
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Yes, and? :dunno:


Let the record show that Christiecrite is now assimilated into the Borg. 😺
 
Whitted was not imprisoned for non-violent drug offenses.

"In addition to drug dealing, Whitted and other A.T.M members were feared due to their propensity for violent home invasion robberies of other drug dealers.

Girlfriends of drug dealers were also frequently harmed during these invasions.

On two occasions, Whitted and his accomplices poured boiling water on the victims until they disclosed the locations of the drugs and/or currency.

During one of these invasions, a taser was deployed on a woman's genital area."


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Well, Leggiecrite?
 
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