You Just Lived Through Earth's Hottest Year on Record. Again

Into the Night said:
Statistical math does allow for calculating an average and a tolerance, but he denies statistical math.

Among it's requirements are unbiased raw data (you can't cook it!). Since time is significant and location grouping is significant, the only way to get that is to use uniformly spaced thermometers (they aren't uniformly spaced!) and to read them at the same time by the same authority.

You are quite properly bringing up the requirement that you must declare and justify your variance. A variance of 20 deg/mile is a conservative estimate, since temperature can vary that much across storm fronts, from grass to asphalt, changes with altitude or by moving in or out of a warm or cold current, etc.

NOAA uses the larger number of thermometers. Given the thermometers they use, and given the variance I just declared, that means one thermometer will be measuring an area the size of Virginia (assuming they are uniformly spaced, which they aren't). With this variance, the margin of error is greater than the highest and lowest temperatures ever measured on Earth, so that becomes the fence.

Mathematically speaking, any claim of the temperature of the Earth is just guessing.

It's even worse trying to measure the global atmospheric content of CO2. There are very few stations, all on the surface capable of measuring CO2 at their sensors at all, and CO2 is not uniformly distributed in the atmosphere.

Due to similar problems, you cannot measure the temperature of the Earth, the global atmospheric content of CO2, the pH of the oceans, the total snow and ice on Earth, the range of every animal on Earth, the location of every plant on Earth, the total precipitation on Earth, or the emissivity of Earth.

The Church of Global Warming routinely denies and discards statistical mathematics, probability mathematics, random number mathematics, and even algebra.

Further, they routinely deny and discard the 0th, 1st, and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, and the Stefan-Boltzmann law.

Climate cannot change. It has no values that can 'change'. Climate is a subjective description, and is devoid of any objective values.
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So, what your saying is 'climate experts' that supply the world with 'scientific facts' are guessing???? They wouldn't dare point the finger at selfish Americans and the terrible greedy capitalist pigs that rape the earth for profit unless they were sure, would they? Plus, I'm sure you've heard that 97% of all scientist agree the climate is in fact changing. SCARY TIMES we're living in. We need to give up hairspray at the very least.
 
Tobytone said:
So, what your saying is 'climate experts' that supply the world with 'scientific facts' are guessing????
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That is exactly what I'm saying.
Tobytone said:
They wouldn't dare point the finger at selfish Americans and the terrible greedy capitalist pigs that rape the earth for profit unless they were sure, would they?
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Sure. They hate capitalism. They are socialists.
Tobytone said:
Plus, I'm sure you've heard that 97% of all scientist agree the climate is in fact changing.
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Another made up number and an omniscience fallacy.

Science does not use consensus. Climate cannot change.
Tobytone said:
SCARY TIMES we're living in. We need to give up hairspray at the very least.
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That's gonna make king Newsom and Al Gore mad!
 
SlaveForChrist said:
That's not global. That's the literal opposite.
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We have global records going back even further than the 1800s, in other nations. We also have observations of the changes in animal, bird, plant, and disease ranges going back to well over 100 years. Sorry, Buckwheat, but climate change is real.

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Phantasmal said:
I saw Alaska go through extreme changes. Portage Glacier! Right outside Anchorage.
So sad.
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Yup. And some of the Native coastal villages have had to be relocated further inland due to erosion because the sea doesn't freeze over there anymore. They're finding fossils in melting permafrost. What's the glacier on the Glenn, the Matanuska? That one has retreated as well. So has the Exit Glacier.

We never had armadillos in Missouri until after 2005 or so. Now they're as far north as St. Louis. I passed a dead one on the highway the day we moved up here, right before the exit to Illinois.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
We have global records going back even further than the 1800s, in other nations. We also have observations of the changes in animal, bird, plant, and disease ranges going back to well over 100 years. Sorry, Buckwheat, but climate change is real.

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Again, not global. We have no significant records of the middle of the Pacific ocean in the 1800s. Same for Antarctica. Same for most of Africa, South America, etc. That's not global. You're talking about regional records in civilizations advanced enough to have the equipment to make measurements (equipment that itself was not remotely near the accuracy we currently have btw)


Of course climate change is real, it is constantly changing. It changes due to vast cycles and inputs well beyond anything we have power over.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
We have global records going back even further than the 1800s, in other nations.
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There is no record of the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
ThatOwlWoman said:
We also have observations of the changes in animal, bird, plant, and disease ranges going back to well over 100 years. Sorry, Buckwheat, but climate change is real.

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Ostriches don't bury their head.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Yup. And some of the Native coastal villages have had to be relocated further inland due to erosion because the sea doesn't freeze over there anymore.
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Depends on the year. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
ThatOwlWoman said:
They're finding fossils in melting permafrost.
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The permafrost isn't melting.
ThatOwlWoman said:
What's the glacier on the Glenn, the Matanuska? That one has retreated as well. So has the Exit Glacier.
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What about the ones that are growing?
ThatOwlWoman said:
We never had armadillos in Missouri until after 2005 or so.
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When someone imported it.
ThatOwlWoman said:
Now they're as far north as St. Louis. I passed a dead one on the highway the day we moved up here, right before the exit to Illinois.
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You're making shit up.

The permafrost isn't melting.
Glaciers grow and retreat every year.
You never passed a dead armadillo.
 
moon said:
Can I add " The world's climate scientists are all Socialists " to your growing list of imbecilic quotations ?


Haw, haw............................................haw.
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There is no such thing as a 'climate scientist'. Climate is not a branch of science. Priests in the Church of Global Warming routinely deny and discard the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law, just as you do.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no record of the temperature of the Earth. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
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The temperatures of the earth's components, core, mantle, crust and atmosphere are measurable and , of course, subject to change- but measurable nonetheless.
Mind you, folks, I am telling this to a dumbass that doesn't believe that Sweden is to the East of the UK.


Haw, haw..........................................haw.
 
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