Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' political climate

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Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' political climate

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1437

good lord, can this guy be any more whiny....notice he doesn't specifically call out any left wing talk show hosts....he is so partisan its dishonest for him to claim others are "vitriol" while not mentioning his constant attacks on the right...if he really wanted to end this kind of talk, either single everyone out, or single no one out....

grow up obama, you're the president of the United States of America, not your elite Hawaiian private school or some neighborhood in chicago....
 
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It's disingenuous to refer to left-wing hosts as though they are somehow equals in the national discourse. Limbaugh has run the political show on talk radio for decades now, to many millions of listeners; Beck is a genuine celebrity, whose books shoot to #1 as soon as they come out and remain on the bestseller lists for long periods of time.

In my opinion, these guys ARE poisoning the discourse, and have been for ages. I have heard Congressmen & Senators repeat sentences & ideas from both of them verbatim.

There is no "left-wing host" with anywhere near the popularity or reach. What a dishonest thing to even imply.
 
It's disingenuous to refer to left-wing hosts as though they are somehow equals in the national discourse. Limbaugh has run the political show on talk radio for decades now, to many millions of listeners; Beck is a genuine celebrity, whose books shoot to #1 as soon as they come out and remain on the bestseller lists for long periods of time.

In my opinion, these guys ARE poisoning the discourse, and have been for ages. I have heard Congressmen & Senators repeat sentences & ideas from both of them verbatim.

There is no "left-wing host" with anywhere near the popularity or reach. What a dishonest thing to even imply.
So the President feels the need to fill that gap? He's the President, he should at least act like he's above that minutiae.

The left-wing doesn't need a host they have ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, et al.
 
Obama says Beck, Limbaugh fuel 'troublesome' political climate

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1437

good lord, can this guy be any more whiny....notice he doesn't specifically call out any left wing talk show hosts....he is so partisan its dishonest for him to claim others are "vitriol" while not mentioning his constant attacks on the right...if he really wanted to end this kind of talk, either single everyone out, or single no one out....

grow up ABM, you're the president of the United States of America, not your elite Hawaiian private school or some neighborhood in chicago....

He wouldn't call them out if he wasn't worried about them.
 
It's disingenuous to refer to left-wing hosts as though they are somehow equals in the national discourse. Limbaugh has run the political show on talk radio for decades now, to many millions of listeners; Beck is a genuine celebrity, whose books shoot to #1 as soon as they come out and remain on the bestseller lists for long periods of time.

In my opinion, these guys ARE poisoning the discourse, and have been for ages. I have heard Congressmen & Senators repeat sentences & ideas from both of them verbatim.

There is no "left-wing host" with anywhere near the popularity or reach. What a dishonest thing to even imply.

you're dishonest by simply claiming its a numbers game...its not about numbers, its about vitriol you dishonest hack...it is dishonest to specifically call out only one side, just because the left doesn't have the ratings numbers, doesn't mean they don't have vitriol talk show hosts that add to the fuel of vitriol political debate....

but i am not surprised you will do anything to apologize for obama
 
A president’s job is to address and confront threats to the United States, whether from foreign states, or from domestic terrorists.

It may be an uncomfortable fact for some – one that they might prefer be swept under the carpet – but, by far the largest domestic terrorist threat in this country is from rightwing, anti-government whack jobs. There is no measurable left wing domestic terrorism in this country, outside of some property damage incidents by whacked tree huggers. They ain't murdering anyone.

It’s a matter of time before there’s another rightwing domestic terrorist bombing or mass murder, and they will find the writings of Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh in the perp’s car trunk.

There are no organizations, or individuals on the American left in the last few decades who have committed homicidal bombings, and mass murder. These rightwing terrorist acts have been relatively routine since the 1990s, and appear to escalate whenever a Democrat is in office….particularly, a black Democrat.
While there are semi-respectable conservatives in the media, there is a vast network of rightwing talk radio and cyber space that are over-the-top and inflammatory in their rhetoric. Limbaugh, Beck, Michael Savage, Coulter-geist. And their rhetoric is routinely couched in violent imagery; aka, abortion is a Holocaust, and a woman’s right to choose is the equivalent of mass genocide.

When you have rightwing nutjobs who think liberalism is the root of all evil, that kind of rhetoric is going to play a part in enabling their fantasies and conspiracy theories, and aid and abet driving them over the edge. Sorry man, that’s just a fact.

Do some liberals engage in inflammatory rhetoric. God damn right. But you know what? It doesn’t appear to contribute to any leftys wanting to blow up buildings or engage in mass murder. So, it’s not a problem a president has to address. A president doesn’t have to address incivility on the radio. Bottom line: liberals can be uncivil; it’s never been demonstrated to contribute to liberal lunacy in terms of blowing shit up or killing people. That can’t be said of the Reich Wing.


Right-Wing TN Church Shooter is Fan of O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage

On Sunday, 58-year-old Jim Adkisson entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church during a children's performance of the musical “Annie Jr.” In a guitar case, he carried a shotgun and 76 rounds. Adkisson killed two church members, Greg McKendry (60) and Linda Kraeger (61), and wounded six more before he was wrestled to the ground as he tried to reload.

…..how do we know that Adkisson was a consumer of popular right-wing thinking? Anticipating that he would be shot by police, Adkisson left the door to his house open to make it easier for authorities to enter. He didn’t want his motive and the ideology it sprang from to be a secret. From the Knoxville News Sentinel:

Inside [Adkisson’s] house, officers found "Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder" by radio talk show host Michael Savage, "Let Freedom Ring" by talk show host Sean Hannity, and "The O'Reilly Factor," by television talk show host Bill O'Reilly.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-kim/right-wing-tn-church-shoo_b_115789.html

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/


During the interview Adkisson stated that he had targeted the church because of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of major media outlets. Adkisson made statements that because he could not get to the leaders of the liberal movement that he would then target those that had voted them into office. Adkisson stated that he had held these beliefs for about the last ten years.

Adkisson's manifesto[11] also cited the inability to find a job, and that his food stamps were being cut.

Note: Okay, that last sentence is totally hilarious, in a morbid way. Is anything funnier that a rightwing nut job complaining that his government food stamps were being cut?

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This is the SAME person, who just months ago, advocated and encouraged his supporters to "get in their face" and confront the opposition, and "if they bring a knife to the fight, bring a gun!" Liberals want to play it both ways... they want to be as absolutely militant as they can get away with being, but at the same time, cry foul when the same tactics (or milder) are used against them. They want to stand there and call us "teabaggers", "knuckledraggers", "rednecks" and "racists" and denigrate us every which way from Sunday, but let some loose-cannon rightie spit at one of them, and you'd think the world had ended!
 
This is the SAME person, who just months ago, advocated and encouraged his supporters to "get in their face" and confront the opposition, and "if they bring a knife to the fight, bring a gun!" Liberals want to play it both ways... they want to be as absolutely militant as they can get away with being, but at the same time, cry foul when the same tactics (or milder) are used against them. They want to stand there and call us "teabaggers", "knuckledraggers", "rednecks" and "racists" and denigrate us every which way from Sunday, but let some loose-cannon rightie spit at one of them, and you'd think the world had ended!

thats actually a good point
 
It is a good point and a good tactic. Democrats buy hypocracy maybe more than NASCAR teabaggers do.
 
So the President feels the need to fill that gap? He's the President, he should at least act like he's above that minutiae.

The left-wing doesn't need a host they have ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, et al.

That's a completely disingenuous point, as well. If you think MSNBC even comes close to fueling the divisiveness that defines the current political climate as say, Limbaugh, you're completely insane.

It doesn't even do "half", since that's a measurement you seem to relate to.
 
you're dishonest by simply claiming its a numbers game...its not about numbers, its about vitriol you dishonest hack...it is dishonest to specifically call out only one side, just because the left doesn't have the ratings numbers, doesn't mean they don't have vitriol talk show hosts that add to the fuel of vitriol political debate....

but i am not surprised you will do anything to apologize for obama

Actually, it IS a #'s game, because he's talking about the political climate. The political climate is defined by the guys who draw the most #'s; it's not being defined by the guys who struggle for ratings, and don't really have a following to speak of.

That should be fairly obvious to any intelligent person, but hey....
 
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_brings_a_gun_to_a_knife_fight.html


I get the metaphor Obama is using here but I think it can be argued some might construe (sp) that type of rhetoric as inflamatory. It doesn't mean Obama can't call out others for their rhetoric but to be standing on the moral high ground he needs to watch his own.
 
Actually, it IS a #'s game, because he's talking about the political climate. The political climate is defined by the guys who draw the most #'s; it's not being defined by the guys who struggle for ratings, and don't really have a following to speak of.

That should be fairly obvious to any intelligent person, but hey....

keep apologizing for your hypocritical beloved obama

it is about ALL people stoppign the vitriol....it is absolutely dishonest to only finger out two people from the right side of the aisle and ignore the hate spewed from the left ala randy roades, that douche on msnbc, and the guy who gets tingles up his leg mathews...

but go ahead and pretend it only matters because limbaugh and beck have a larger audience....to you, it doesn't matter so long as only a few hundred thousand people hear you....

you have truly shown your hack colors in this thread and its quite frankly embarrassing, you can be more objective than this, but for some reason lately you're on an obama apology tour...
 
obama is their lord and savior.

cult of personality. like mussoline, hitler, chairmen mao, and saddam hussien.

pure evil.
 
keep apologizing for your hypocritical beloved obama

it is about ALL people stoppign the vitriol....it is absolutely dishonest to only finger out two people from the right side of the aisle and ignore the hate spewed from the left ala randy roades, that douche on msnbc, and the guy who gets tingles up his leg mathews...

but go ahead and pretend it only matters because limbaugh and beck have a larger audience....to you, it doesn't matter so long as only a few hundred thousand people hear you....

you have truly shown your hack colors in this thread and its quite frankly embarrassing, you can be more objective than this, but for some reason lately you're on an obama apology tour...

Who has had more influence on the tone of political discourse over the past decade: Chris Matthews, or Rush Limbaugh?

Take your time. Just give me a name.
 
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