Jimmy Carter, former US president and Nobel Peace Prize recipient, dead at 100, Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports

What spaceflight owes to Jimmy Carter: The president's little-known NASA legacy​


The year was 1977 and then-President Jimmy Carter had a problem with NASA.

In a diary entry from that June, Carter, who died Sunday at age 100, made clear his displeasure with the agency, which was in the midst of building the space shuttle but had fallen years behind schedule.

“We continued our budget meetings. It’s obvious that the space shuttle is just a contrivance to keep NASA alive, and that no real need for the space shuttle was determined before the massive construction program was initiated,” Carter wrote, according to excerpts published in his 2010 book “White House Diary.”

Carter is hardly remembered as a champion of NASA. Unlike Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, he has no NASA center bearing his name, and his time in office wasn’t characterized by grand visions for astronomy or human spaceflight.

Yet, it was Carter who ultimately saved NASA’s space shuttle program — giving the country perhaps its most iconic space vehicle. And it is Carter’s words that have been journeying aboard the Voyager probes for more than 45 years, carrying a message of peace and hope deep into the cosmos.

“It doesn’t show up in any of the retrospectives of major accomplishments of his term in office, but one might call him an unsung hero for the space program,” said Valerie Neal, an emerita space history curator at the National Air and Space Museum.

Years before Carter took office, NASA was eyeing its next big endeavor. By the late 1960s, as the Apollo moon missions were ongoing, agency officials were contemplating new destinations, Neal said.

Consensus formed around trying to establish a presence in Earth orbit — a space station where astronauts could stay for longer periods and where researchers could learn about microgravity and its effects on the human body.

“But to build a space station, you need a new vehicle that can carry all the equipment into low-Earth orbit,” Neal said.

Enter the space shuttle.

NASA envisioned the shuttle having myriad functions. In addition to hauling space station modules and cargo into orbit, agency officials suggested it could launch satellites and other commercial payloads while also serving as its own temporary lab in space.

By the time Carter took office in January 1977, however, political appetites for the shuttle program were on thin ice. Carter himself didn’t see much value in sending astronauts into orbit, according to Neal.

“He approved of a lot of what NASA did in aeronautics and in planetary exploration, but he just didn’t see a strong reason for the space shuttle,” she said.

Five years earlier, President Richard Nixon had approved $5.5 billion for the nascent shuttle program. But the project’s budget had mushroomed in the intervening years, as engineers struggled with the design of the vehicle’s main engines and the thermal tiles that would protect the spacecraft as it re-entered Earth’s atmosphere.

“These were the first rocket engines that were designed to be used repeatedly, so they had to meet a very high certification standard,” Neal said. “NASA was having a lot of trouble with them.”

At that point, the project was at least three years behind schedule and some members of Congress started calling for the program to be scaled back or scrapped, she added. Carter was feeling pressure from within his administration: Officials with the Office of Management and Budget pushed to cut NASA's funding, and his vice president, Walter Mondale, was an outspoken critic of the space shuttle.

“NASA was taking a beating,” Neal said. “In 1977, ‘78 and ‘79, NASA just wasn’t in a good place in terms of public opinion.”

However, Carter rescued the shuttle by giving NASA the resources needed to see the project through to its inaugural launch in 1981. The president earmarked nearly $200 million in additional funds in 1979 and an extra $300 million the following fiscal year. At a time when inflation was sky-high and there was enormous pressure to tighten government spending, only the Defense Department and NASA saw their budgets increase in those years.

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Eternal memory. He was an example of what Christianity in practice should look like.

Indeed. And he was roundly reviled for nearly 50 years by the very people who fancy themselves Christians.

JC was a great man. I was too young to truly appreciate if he handled his administration right or wrong. What it seemed to me was his FATAL FLAW was that he treated Americans like adults.

And that was what did his administration in. America is NOT a nation of adults.

But he truly showed what faith, properly applied, can achieve in the world. He wasn't a perfect person but he was probably about as good as any of us are likely to get.
 
Indeed. And he was roundly reviled for nearly 50 years by the very people who fancy themselves Christians.
Nixon is reviled, and even Republicans rarely defend him.

Carter is almost universally admired as a person, even by those who claim he did a bad job as president. Even right-wingers on this forum are almost universally appreciative of Carter's character and integrity.
 
Always. His one and ONLY reason for being here is to cause disharmony. I have literally seen him sabotage when people were just starting to get along in order to get them back at each others throats. BEST thing we all can do is put him on ignore,....it drives him CRAZY which is why he started tagging all you guys in an attempt to get you all to start reading his bullshit,....then Damo jumped on him about it so he stopped because HE HAD TO.

Dutch does what he does for 1 of two reasons and possibly both. First,....he is very unhappy with his current life so he wants everyone else to feel as bad as he does. Two.......he is getting paid by the post by some type of nefarious political organization or by several. Thus the reason for his astronomical post count in such a short time.

My bet? He is doing it for BOTH reasons. Very unhappy and hurting for money. I'd be pretty unhappy too if I had to resort to shit posting at a dime a post just to pay my electric bill! He's a scumbag,....and a broke dick scumbag at that. ANYONE can clearly see it,...even some of the libs he sucks up to. Half the time there are a whole lot of them that cant stand his crazy ass either.
Tell us how you really feel about him. :rofl2:
Couldn’t have said it better. Good analysis. :nodyes:
 
So sad to see him go, but so proud to have had him as my president. May he finally reunite with his loving wife and may the God's grant his family here on earth comfort in his passing.

Carter, like so so many Democratic Presidents, came behind yet another horrible GOP predecessor and typical USA fucked up voters wanted things fixed YESTERDAY and as always, Carter got the fuckin blame for inflation and Iran.
 
I can't deal with that. So, so, so gross.

:laugh:

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Indeed. And he was roundly reviled for nearly 50 years by the very people who fancy themselves Christians.

JC was a great man. I was too young to truly appreciate if he handled his administration right or wrong. What it seemed to me was his FATAL FLAW was that he treated Americans like adults.

And that was what did his administration in. America is NOT a nation of adults.

But he truly showed what faith, properly applied, can achieve in the world. He wasn't a perfect person but he was probably about as good as any of us are likely to get.
Indeed. And he was roundly reviled for nearly 50 years by the very people who fancy themselves Christians.

JC was a great man. I was too young to truly appreciate if he handled his administration right or wrong. What it seemed to me was his FATAL FLAW was that he treated Americans like adults.

And that was what did his administration in. America is NOT a nation of adults.

But he truly showed what faith, properly applied, can achieve in the world. He wasn't a perfect person but he was probably about as good as any of us are likely to get.

:hand: :hand: :hand:

What he did after his rather brief presidency will live on long after all of us are gone. He used his celebrity as a former POTUS for the good of humankind. He didn't enrich himself. He and Rosalyn are in my opinion examples of the very best that Americans can be, and inspiration to all, Christian or not, who want to leave this planet better because we sojourned here.
 
Watch his Malaise Speech and you can see why he lost reelection in a landslide.

Yup. JC made the error of asking Americans to be sober adults and that didn't play well to our inner toddler.

That and having The Great Communicator to run against in the 1980 election was almost unfair.

LOL. Great Communicator. And now there's some evidence that Ronny Raygun and his buddies played footsie with the Ayatollah to delay release of the hostages in 1980 so that Reagan could appear to be the savior.

Kind of like when Nixon fucked up peace talks in '68 so that he could win the Presidency.

Republicans apparently don't mind Americans being harmed so long as they can win.

But Reagan sure was a homey approachable dude, wasn't he? Oh except apparently he wasn't. Apparently that was all an act (he was an actor) and that he had little actual care for most people.

LOL.
 
What he did after his rather brief presidency will live on long after all of us are gone.
I think what he did as president has left a lasting legacy that is still with us today. Not many presidents can claim to have left a lasting legacy. Prior to the mid-1970s the CIA, the FBI, the intelligence services could pretty much act with impunity and without oversight. America's foreign policy did generally not even bother to consider human rights. Major regional Arab-Israeli wars broke out at least every decade. America had largely failed to establish moral authority over the communist bloc in the eyes of the developing world.

The post-watergate reforms, elevating human rights as a foreign policy consideration, the Camp David agreement, and the Helsinki accord played critical and lasting roles in American governance and foreign relations.
 
You ever get a look at the tubby little guy? Maybe 5-9 at the most with size 8 shoe! :laugh: He might as well have been born a woman,...he certainly has a womans build!
You did see that photo he posted of his tiny fingers that he actually compared in size to his reservist ID ?
Looks to be about a women's small.
 
:hand: :hand: :hand:

What he did after his rather brief presidency will live on long after all of us are gone. He used his celebrity as a former POTUS for the good of humankind. He didn't enrich himself. He and Rosalyn are in my opinion examples of the very best that Americans can be, and inspiration to all, Christian or not, who want to leave this planet better because we sojourned here.
I actually agree with this. His Presidency sucked though.
 
I mean, aside from the Camp David Accords, he was most famous for what he did when he wasn't in office, if ya get my drift...
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