Nuclear power issue

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
I am definitely against nuclear power plants....and Obama IMHO is NOT doing the smart thing with his revamping the construction for these things. I will always thank God that former Mayor Mario Cuomo put the kibosh on the Shoreham nuke plant here on Long Island all those years ago...because the last thing we needed was a ramped up version of the Indian Point nuke plant in our backyard.

Here's just one of the negative views being bandied about regarding this issue:

Obama's nuclear power push faces obstacle: Waste

Washington (CNN) -- President Obama's announcement Tuesday of loan guarantees for nuclear power plants may encourage new construction, but a problem still remains that has plagued atomic energy for decades: what to do with nuclear waste?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/16/obama.nuclear.power/index.html
 
Damocles said:
Look to France, young Padawan.
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Yes, let's look to France, who is so proud of it's storage facilities....they don't know wtf to do with the stuff a few decades down the line..but hey, that's a problem for future generations. Maybe than can continue to ship it to Russia? But hey, let's just ignore all those leaks or effects on local waterways because no one has died...yet. And then of course, if you have a nasty above average cold snap, and heating demands double, the nuke plants are more susceptible to shut downs, and take a LONG time to reboot, refuel. And will someone tell me how the cost for all that nuke waste management gets magically paid for?

Please, Sith master....tell us!
 
Taichiliberal said:
Yes, let's look to France, who is so proud of it's storage facilities....they don't know wtf to do with the stuff a few decades down the line..but hey, that's a problem for future generations. Maybe than can continue to ship it to Russia? But hey, let's just ignore all those leaks or effects on local waterways because no one has died...yet. And then of course, if you have a nasty above average cold snap, and heating demands double, the nuke plants are more susceptible to shut downs, and take a LONG time to reboot, refuel. And will someone tell me how the cost for all that nuke waste management gets magically paid for?

Please, Sith master....tell us!
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Like Japan, we should just sell it to France. Look to France, young Padawan...

At least you acknowledge that I am your master.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Yes, let's look to France, who is so proud of it's storage facilities....they don't know wtf to do with the stuff a few decades down the line..but hey, that's a problem for future generations. Maybe than can continue to ship it to Russia? But hey, let's just ignore all those leaks or effects on local waterways because no one has died...yet. And then of course, if you have a nasty above average cold snap, and heating demands double, the nuke plants are more susceptible to shut downs, and take a LONG time to reboot, refuel. And will someone tell me how the cost for all that nuke waste management gets magically paid for?

Please, Sith master....tell us!
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look to future generations to deal with? haven't you libs done that for decades? it shouldn't bother you anymore.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Yes, let's look to France, who is so proud of it's storage facilities....they don't know wtf to do with the stuff a few decades down the line..but hey, that's a problem for future generations. Maybe than can continue to ship it to Russia? But hey, let's just ignore all those leaks or effects on local waterways because no one has died...yet. And then of course, if you have a nasty above average cold snap, and heating demands double, the nuke plants are more susceptible to shut downs, and take a LONG time to reboot, refuel. And will someone tell me how the cost for all that nuke waste management gets magically paid for?

Please, Sith master....tell us!
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Damocles said:
Like Japan, we should just sell it to France. Look to France, young Padawan...

At least you acknowledge that I am your master.
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All "Star Wars" references aside (*sqaaawk--bidip-beep-boop!*)Exactly what is Japan selling to France? And how does this cryptic statement of yours answers any of the questions I put forth? Seriously, there's a LOT of stuff about nuke power plants that doesn't get a lot of serious press when people discuss this issue.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Yes, let's look to France, who is so proud of it's storage facilities....they don't know wtf to do with the stuff a few decades down the line..but hey, that's a problem for future generations. Maybe than can continue to ship it to Russia? But hey, let's just ignore all those leaks or effects on local waterways because no one has died...yet. And then of course, if you have a nasty above average cold snap, and heating demands double, the nuke plants are more susceptible to shut downs, and take a LONG time to reboot, refuel. And will someone tell me how the cost for all that nuke waste management gets magically paid for?

Please, Sith master....tell us!
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SmarterThanYou said:
look to future generations to deal with? haven't you libs done that for decades? it shouldn't bother you anymore.
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Overlooking your generalized, off topic accusation....do you have ANY answers to the questions I put forth above? Do you have sufficient knowledge of the subject to address said questions?
 
Bittermark said:
Generation four plants (which will be ready in about 20 years) are being designed to produce no waste and to passively deactivate.
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Ahh, but in the meantime you have all the waste that has already been compiled, and 20 more years to add to that....and who is to say that ALL existing plants will be replaced? And what is the procedure for the that, and how much will it cost?

"passively deactivate"? How many years before the waste is deemed "safe"?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Ahh, but in the meantime you have all the waste that has already been compiled, and 20 more years to add to that....and who is to say that ALL existing plants will be replaced? And what is the procedure for the that, and how much will it cost?

"passively deactivate"? How many years before the waste is deemed "safe"?
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And what would be the benefit of exploring nuclear options if there is no use for them....?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Ahh, but in the meantime you have all the waste that has already been compiled, and 20 more years to add to that....and who is to say that ALL existing plants will be replaced? And what is the procedure for the that, and how much will it cost?

"passively deactivate"? How many years before the waste is deemed "safe"?
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CaptBillyTheKid said:
And what would be the benefit of exploring nuclear options if there is no use for them....?
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Hey, you want to explore nuke plant options, set up a research facility in the damned desert....and when you figure out EXACTLY how to run the damned things so the waste is readily decontaminated, and you don't have those nasty little incidents of releasing gasses and waste water into the environment, I'm all for them. But in the meantime, we're playing a long game of Russian roulette with a lot of nasty little side affects and accidents that tend to get underplayed in the press.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Hey, you want to explore nuke plant options, set up a research facility in the damned desert....and when you figure out EXACTLY how to run the damned things so the waste is readily decontaminated, and you don't have those nasty little incidents of releasing gasses and waste water into the environment, I'm all for them. But in the meantime, we're playing a long game of Russian roulette with a lot of nasty little side affects and accidents that tend to get underplayed in the press.
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Setting aside the fact that nuclear power is one of the safest and cleanest forms of energy, and ignoring the fact that coal and oil energy production results in far more accidental deaths and much more environmental/health related issues to the general public.... what do you propose we do about the man you elected president, authorizing the construction of new nuclear power plants? Can the GOP now count on your support in 2012, or is it still too soon to tell?
 
On this one Obama is fumbling the Liberal football.We still don,t think that Nuclear power is safe ,clean , or cost effective.
 
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