Trump wrong for the eleven billionth time: Most blacks do not live in cities or in poverty

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No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities​

In his debates and speeches, Trump implies that African Americans are concentrated in urban cores. They’re not.

39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities.

www.theatlantic.com

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

In his debates and speeches, Trump implies that African Americans are concentrated in urban cores. They’re not.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
 
Given that Trump's base are lower income men with high school education or less, and generally consider themselves superior to minorities, the demographic study that needs to done is to compare the educational and income achievement of black Americans compared to white MAGA morons. I think black Americans could outperform MAGA on those metrics.
 
What’s most interesting, if polls are to be believed, is that Trump is increasing his support with black and LatinX men while losing support with educated white women.

So are these black and LatinX men just anti- women as Obama implied? (the same men who voted for him over Hillary). Did these black and Latinx men just become deplorables over night? (because people who vote for Democrats would never be racist, homophobic, misogynistic etc. right?)

By all accounts the Presidential race is a toss up. Could legitimately go either way. Which ever side loses will certainly have areas to point to where they failed to win over voters.

For Harris it will be the working class. The disdain among many Democrats for them is just drippingly apparent.
 
cawacko said:
What’s most interesting, if polls are to be believed, is that Trump is increasing his support with black and LatinX men while losing support with educated white women.

So are these black and LatinX men just anti- women as Obama implied? (the same men who voted for him over Hillary). Did these black and Latinx men just become deplorables over night? (because people who vote for Democrats would never be racist, homophobic, misogynistic etc. right?)

By all accounts the Presidential race is a toss up. Could legitimately go either way. Which ever side loses will certainly have areas to point to where they failed to win over voters.

For Harris it will be the working class. The disdain among many Democrats for them is just drippingly apparent.
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It is clear that there are many phony polls taking place. Don't believe any of them. The formerly highly rated polls are being questioned. The plethora of polls is because fake polls work.
 
Nordberg said:
It is clear that there are many phony polls taking place. Don't believe any of them. The formerly highly rated polls are being questioned. The plethora of polls is because fake polls work.
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Ok. Maybe one of the candidates will actually have a 1972 or 1984 level of victory, if we’re going to go with trust nothing.
 
New York city had the largest number of people reporting as Black with about 2.3 million, followed by Chicago, 1.1 million, and Detroit, Philadelphia and Houston

In 2022, 28.7% of Black Chicagoans lived in poverty, which is almost three times the poverty rate for white Chicagoans at 10.3%

Over 26% of Black people in Detroit are below the poverty line, which is more than 13 percentage points higher than the national rate.

In Philadelphia, the poverty rate for Black people is higher than the national average at 30%
 
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volsrock1 said:
New York city had the largest number of people reporting as Black with about 2.3 million, followed by Chicago, 1.1 million, and Detroit, Philadelphia and Houston
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Where are getting those numbers? Because there are black people who live in cities does mean that a majority do.
 
Cypress said:

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities​

In his debates and speeches, Trump implies that African Americans are concentrated in urban cores. They’re not.

39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities.

www.theatlantic.com

No, Most Black People Don’t Live in Poverty—or Inner Cities

In his debates and speeches, Trump implies that African Americans are concentrated in urban cores. They’re not.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
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African-Americans are more concentrated in urban cores ​

Comparing the three ethnic groups, blacks are most likely to live within the urban core in all four MSAs


www.federalreserve.gov

Are Central Cities Poor and Non-White?

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.
www.federalreserve.gov


Trump right again
 
I don't think anyone made the claim that all or most black people live in urban settings, but it is manifestly true that urban areas have a very high rate of black population. This is easily explained by the history of the Great Migration after the end of slavery and the rise of Jim Crow in the South. It is also explicable by the concept of "white flight" which is known.

To simply focus on the pedantic point about how many of each class live where is to miss the larger point we all know is in play here.

Urban schools decay and fail because the tax revenues are sapped when richer white people leave for the suburbs. It's a tail we've know for easily 60 years now.
 
volsrock1 said:

New York City and Chicago Are Cities With Largest Black Populations..and its very urban​

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NYC and Chicago are the largest and third largest respectively cities in rhe U.S. And each of their cities is less than 30% black.

Demographics are what they are. That doesn’t prove that a majority of black people live in major cities because that is false
 
volsrock1 said:

African-Americans are more concentrated in urban cores ​

Comparing the three ethnic groups, blacks are most likely to live within the urban core in all four MSAs


www.federalreserve.gov

Are Central Cities Poor and Non-White?

The Federal Reserve Board of Governors in Washington DC.
www.federalreserve.gov


Trump right again
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The OP posted an article from 8 years ago and you posted data from 7 years ago.

For starters we don’t live in 1950. Non white does not simply mean black. If you think it does get out and travel some.

And this study referenced four areas, not the entire country.

Wouldn’t think it a difficult concept but you know what they say about assuming
 
cawacko said:
NYC and Chicago are the largest and third largest respectively cities in rhe U.S. And each of their cities is less than 30% black.

Demographics are what they are. That doesn’t prove that a majority of black people live in major cities because that is false
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But that is ignoring the issue. The issue is why is there a large proportion of black people who make up the urban population and why do those urban areas have a tough time economically.

That's the real topic at hand. And the answer has already been known for decades. White flight to the suburbs and generational wealth allowing white people to escape easily sapping the tax revenues coupled with America's inherent lack of actual care of what happens to black people.
 
cawacko said:
NYC and Chicago are the largest and third largest respectively cities in rhe U.S. And each of their cities is less than 30% black.

Demographics are what they are. That doesn’t prove that a majority of black people live in major cities because that is false
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According to the 2021 US Census Bureau American Community Survey, 28.5% of Chicago's population is Black

In 2021, 26.7% of Black Chicagoans lived in poverty

That's almost 100%

According to the 2021 U.S. Census, 20.2% of New York City's population is black

In 2021, 20% Black New Yorkers lived in poverty,

That is 99.8 %


So YES almost ALL blacks in those 2 cities live in the urban core and in poverty....Trump is right
 
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cawacko said:
NYC and Chicago are the largest and third largest respectively cities in rhe U.S. And each of their cities is less than 30% black.

Demographics are what they are. That doesn’t prove that a majority of black people live in major cities because that is false
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Blacks are 12.2% of the u.s. population.
Basically you’re saying blacks are more than twice as likely to live in those two cities as a percentage of their population.
 
Daylight63 said:
But that is ignoring the issue. The issue is why is there a large proportion of black people who make up the urban population and why do those urban areas have a tough time economically.

That's the real topic at hand. And the answer has already been known for decades. White flight to the suburbs and generational wealth allowing white people to escape easily sapping the tax revenues coupled with America's inherent lack of actual care of what happens to black people.
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Economics is of course tied to why people live where they do but the discussion is where black people live. And Boomers, whether Trump or those on this board, seem to think it’s still 1960 in terms of where black people live. And that’s just not the case.

And many urban areas have been economically revitalized over the past several decades and poverty has been pushed to the suburbs.
 
volsrock1 said:
According to the 2021 US Census Bureau American Community Survey, 28.5% of Chicago's population is Black

In 2021, 26.7% of Black Chicagoans lived in poverty

That's almost 100%
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For your sake, please tell us you misread that (because you can’t be that dumb)
 
anonymoose said:
Blacks are 12.2% of the u.s. population.
Basically you’re saying blacks are more than twice as likely to live in those two cities as a percentage of their population.
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Yes, that’s what the data shows. It’s the same for all races, there are certain cities/areas/states where people are over or under represented.

But it doesn’t show or prove that a majority of black people live in cities.
 
cawacko said:
And many urban areas have been economically revitalized over the past several decades and poverty has been pushed to the suburbs.
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Actually "urban revitalization" (aka "gentrification") has resulted in a lot of poor urban people being forced out and into more poverty somewhere else.
 
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