Rage on the Right

[Taichiliberal]

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/default.htm

Where's the hate? This group is listed 48 times in the SPLC report. The only thing I can find that MIGHT be called hate is their demand that immigration laws be enforced.

I am for easing restrictions/regulations on immigration. I would like to see them to change the laws, but then enforce them. The current situation, existing laws that turn millions into illegals but that are not enforced, just makes everything worse It may be the worst of both worlds. It creates second class citizens.

While I might not agree with their view, I am not sure I would go so far as calling them a hate group. The SPLC implies these people are hell bent on starting a race war and/or trying to overthrow the government. That's absurd.

What is the point of the report? Does the SPLC want these people thrown in jail? Do they want a new COINTELPRO? No they are simply trying to smear. The SPLC's report is nothing but fear mongering and an attempt to dehumanize people that disagree with the SPLC's views.

Sorry, but the old reverse accusation won't fly here. The group you spot here is just as phony as the teabaggers....because both "suddenly" are up in arms about policies that were enacted by the previous administration and implemented for 7 years. This "astro-turf" movement either directly or indirectly blames the year old Obama administration for all ills, yet the REFUSE to point the finger at the originator. If they were to blame Obama for CONTINUATION, they'd have a legit gripe....but that is NOT what they are wailing about.

Like the teabaggers, these groups and their rallies have no qualms with jokers running around with the veiled threat of "don't push us too far", speeches about the country's ideals under seige, socialist takeover, etc., etc...much of the mindset and innuendos found in many of the groups spotlighted by the SPLC.

Like I said before, they want to mouth the platitudes and then wash their hands when others take it to heart. TFB for them if the SPLC spotlight makes them squirm.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Sorry, but the old reverse accusation won't fly here. The group you spot here is just as phony as the teabaggers....because both "suddenly" are up in arms about policies that were enacted by the previous administration and implemented for 7 years. This "astro-turf" movement either directly or indirectly blames the year old Obama administration for all ills, yet the REFUSE to point the finger at the originator. If they were to blame Obama for CONTINUATION, they'd have a legit gripe....but that is NOT what they are wailing about.

you are so wrong and you either don't know it, or refuse to accept it.

The REAL 'TEA party' activists were just as upset about the GOP/Bush spending as they are about the Obama/Dem spending, but you didn't hear about it because what did the media care? The ONLY reason you're hearing more about it now is the MSM's attempt to portray anything antidemocrat/anti-obama as racist, right wing, militia, angry, and any other negative connotation they can throw at them in order to garner public support against them.

do so at your own peril.

 

[Jarod]

I don't see Green Peace or PETA having such a problem.

When did Green Peace or PETA kill hundreds of people?

 

[Canceled.LTroll.10]

you are so wrong and you either don't know it, or refuse to accept it.

The REAL 'TEA party' activists were just as upset about the GOP/Bush spending as they are about the Obama/Dem spending, but you didn't hear about it because what did the media care? The ONLY reason you're hearing more about it now is the MSM's attempt to portray anything antidemocrat/anti-obama as racist, right wing, militia, angry, and any other negative connotation they can throw at them in order to garner public support against them.

do so at your own peril.

Oooooh, I'm sooooooo scared.

 

[Jarod]

Islam is not a religion of peace.

No religion is a religion of peace.

There are large groups in both that are of peace!

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Oooooh, I'm sooooooo scared.

scared or not. your body will take a bullet just like anyone elses will.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/03/hey-democrats-is-our-health-care-worth.html

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Sorry, but the old reverse accusation won't fly here. The group you spot here is just as phony as the teabaggers....because both "suddenly" are up in arms about policies that were enacted by the previous administration and implemented for 7 years. This "astro-turf" movement either directly or indirectly blames the year old Obama administration for all ills, yet the REFUSE to point the finger at the originator. If they were to blame Obama for CONTINUATION, they'd have a legit gripe....but that is NOT what they are wailing about.

you are so wrong and you either don't know it, or refuse to accept it.

The REAL 'TEA party' activists were just as upset about the GOP/Bush spending as they are about the Obama/Dem spending, but you didn't hear about it because what did the media care? The ONLY reason you're hearing more about it now is the MSM's attempt to portray anything antidemocrat/anti-obama as racist, right wing, militia, angry, and any other negative connotation they can throw at them in order to garner public support against them.

do so at your own peril.

Thanks for proving my point....you're veiled threat at the end of your paragraph is the EXACT thing that shows up at teabagger rallies and forums, and is echoed by the neocon punditry. Like I said before....what pisses off people like you is that you have groups who take the talk and are either walking the walk or damned near doing so. The SPLC joints points out the correlation, and you don't like it.

And here's something else for you to munch on....if there was a "tea party" that was actively protesting the Shrub's fiscal machinations, why didn't the MSM....which you and other like minded folk swear to God are all LIBERAL and BIASED against conservatives....give them maximum coverage? Last time I checked, the neocon punditry swore that the LIBERAL MSM was out to get the Shrub & company at any cost. So, once again we have a curiosity in the conservative world.

I recentely heard on the Tom Hartman radio show a man who claims to have originated the Tea Party movement, who states that his movement has been hi-jacked by the well moneyed Republican party, and is NOT about what the TP he started is all about. If I can find his name, I'll let you know.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Thanks for proving my point....you're veiled threat at the end of your paragraph is the EXACT thing that shows up at teabagger rallies and forums, and is echoed by the neocon punditry.

that 'neocon' punditry is still trying to ride our coattails. they are as toothless and cowardly as those on the left. don't mistake them with us.

Like I said before....what pisses off people like you is that you have groups who take the talk and are either walking the walk or damned near doing so. The SPLC joints points out the correlation, and you don't like it.

the SPLC is a shill outfit for democrat objectives and as such it is in their interest to paint anyone anti government as a hate group. to believe their reports is to look ignorant and foolish.

And here's something else for you to munch on....if there was a "tea party" that was actively protesting the Shrub's fiscal machinations, why didn't the MSM....which you and other like minded folk swear to God are all LIBERAL and BIASED against conservatives....give them maximum coverage? Last time I checked, the neocon punditry swore that the LIBERAL MSM was out to get the Shrub & company at any cost. So, once again we have a curiosity in the conservative world.

I have already explained this. if you were too stupid to follow it, then repeating it is not going to help you.

I recentely heard on the Tom Hartman radio show a man who claims to have originated the Tea Party movement, who states that his movement has been hi-jacked by the well moneyed Republican party, and is NOT about what the TP he started is all about. If I can find his name, I'll let you know.

I may find that interesting. please post it if you find it.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Thanks for proving my point....you're veiled threat at the end of your paragraph is the EXACT thing that shows up at teabagger rallies and forums, and is echoed by the neocon punditry.

that 'neocon' punditry is still trying to ride our coattails. they are as toothless and cowardly as those on the left. don't mistake them with us.

Your opinion doesn't change the reality of what I just stated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Like I said before....what pisses off people like you is that you have groups who take the talk and are either walking the walk or damned near doing so. The SPLC joints points out the correlation, and you don't like it.

the SPLC is a shill outfit for democrat objectives and as such it is in their interest to paint anyone anti government as a hate group. to believe their reports is to look ignorant and foolish.

Again, your opinion has NOTHING to do with facts that I pointed out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And here's something else for you to munch on....if there was a "tea party" that was actively protesting the Shrub's fiscal machinations, why didn't the MSM....which you and other like minded folk swear to God are all LIBERAL and BIASED against conservatives....give them maximum coverage? Last time I checked, the neocon punditry swore that the LIBERAL MSM was out to get the Shrub & company at any cost. So, once again we have a curiosity in the conservative world.

I have already explained this. if you were too stupid to follow it, then repeating it is not going to help you.


You haven't "explained" a damned thing...all you do is just spew your opinion, supposition and conjecture while never actually addressing what I posted. In short, you're just blowing smoke.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I recentely heard on the Tom Hartman radio show a man who claims to have originated the Tea Party movement, who states that his movement has been hi-jacked by the well moneyed Republican party, and is NOT about what the TP he started is all about. If I can find his name, I'll let you know.

I may find that interesting. please post it if you find it.

Ahhh, but AGAIN you miss the point.....you edit out of my previous post what YOU CAN'T BS around...and therefore you miss the logical conclusion. You're a perfect example of the assholes that the SPLC is pointing to.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

that 'neocon' punditry is still trying to ride our coattails. they are as toothless and cowardly as those on the left. don't mistake them with us.

Your opinion doesn't change the reality of what I just stated.





the SPLC is a shill outfit for democrat objectives and as such it is in their interest to paint anyone anti government as a hate group. to believe their reports is to look ignorant and foolish.

Again, your opinion has NOTHING to do with facts that I pointed out.




I have already explained this. if you were too stupid to follow it, then repeating it is not going to help you.


You haven't "explained" a damned thing...all you do is just spew your opinion, supposition and conjecture while never actually addressing what I posted. In short, you're just blowing smoke.



I may find that interesting. please post it if you find it.

Ahhh, but AGAIN you miss the point.....you edit out of my previous post what YOU CAN'T BS around...and therefore you miss the logical conclusion. You're a perfect example of the assholes that the SPLC is pointing to.

i get it. you're right, therefore everyone else is wrong. you have facts, everyone has opinions, generally wrong ones.

I can lead an idiot to the trough, but if you won't drink, that's not my problem. face illusion as you wll.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

When did Green Peace or PETA kill hundreds of people?

probably the same time the Tea Party members killed hundreds of people.....

 

[Timshel]

Sorry, but the old reverse accusation won't fly here. The group you spot here is just as phony as the teabaggers....because both "suddenly" are up in arms about policies that were enacted by the previous administration and implemented for 7 years. This "astro-turf" movement either directly or indirectly blames the year old Obama administration for all ills, yet the REFUSE to point the finger at the originator. If they were to blame Obama for CONTINUATION, they'd have a legit gripe....but that is NOT what they are wailing about. blah blah blah more garbage that does not address the point

This group was started in 2001. Obviously, they saw problems when Bush was president.

Please, answer the question. Where is the hate?

Because they don't like Obama they are a hate group? That's the only thing you argued but, I don't want you to cry straw man and that is an incredibly weak argument. So take another shot at it.

 

[Timshel]

Also, I would like to know what's the point? Is the SPLC just whipping up fear or do they want the government to take action?

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Sorry, but the American Spectator is hardly impartial here, given it's hard right-wing bent, it's history or attacking Clinton with it's "Arkansas Project". David Brock blowing the whistle on them is a real eye opener.

Essentially, they bitch about the SPLC establishing links between groups of interest to law enforcement and the "innocuous" groups that have long advocated extreme right wing conservative philosophies. What pisses off conservatives is that they want their cake and to eat it also.....to just treat the racist crap like the John Birch Society historically advocated as a passing fancy and then wash their hands when groups like the Aryan Nation take it heart and act on it. It's not "fear mongering", but accurate reporting and correlations that's jeopardizes the attempts of such groups as teabaggers to "legitimize" themselves.

LMAO.... and your posting a link to 'democracynow' is supposed to be impartial?

How about the SPLC report and site? Are they impartial?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Also, I would like to know what's the point? Is the SPLC just whipping up fear or do they want the government to take action?

yes

 

[Taichiliberal]

i get it. you're right, therefore everyone else is wrong. you have facts, everyone has opinions, generally wrong ones.

I can lead an idiot to the trough, but if you won't drink, that's not my problem. face illusion as you wll.

Put your dress down....no one is impressed with your smokescreen of lies and insults.

Bottom line: your opinion DOES NOT invalidate the information put out by the SPLC....nor does it invalidate the links and the analysis I put forth. You NEVER DID argue the point, you just spewed an angry, generalized opinion which doesn't cut it in a rational, fact based debate. All you've done is just confirm what I stated regarding the teabaggers, the violent prone anti-gov't "militias"....TFB for you if everyone else sees you for what you are.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Sorry, but the American Spectator is hardly impartial here, given it's hard right-wing bent, it's history or attacking Clinton with it's "Arkansas Project". David Brock blowing the whistle on them is a real eye opener.

Essentially, they bitch about the SPLC establishing links between groups of interest to law enforcement and the "innocuous" groups that have long advocated extreme right wing conservative philosophies. What pisses off conservatives is that they want their cake and to eat it also.....to just treat the racist crap like the John Birch Society historically advocated as a passing fancy and then wash their hands when groups like the Aryan Nation take it heart and act on it. It's not "fear mongering", but accurate reporting and correlations that's jeopardizes the attempts of such groups as teabaggers to "legitimize" themselves.

LMAO.... and your posting a link to 'democracynow' is supposed to be impartial?

How about the SPLC report and site? Are they impartial?

Well chuckles, when one actually READS what is being printed on each site, you get a gist of who is more into propaganda and distortion of reality, and who is into more accurate reporting. My quick review of what the American Spectator did is accurate...you don't like it, but you can't logically refute what I wrote.

Here's a wake up call for you....Amy Goodman was the ONLY reporter who took Clinton to task for continuing the "strategic bombing" program started by Daddy Bush...flustered him so bad that a scheduled 10 minute phone interview went into 1/2 hour. Goodman was admonished by fellow journalist for showing disrespect. Here reply, "Well, that's what happens when journalist do their jobs and don't go before public officials on bended knee".

And please explain to me how the SPLC reporting is biased, since they cover all hate, racist and anarchy groups regardless of race, creed or color?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Sorry, but the old reverse accusation won't fly here. The group you spot here is just as phony as the teabaggers....because both "suddenly" are up in arms about policies that were enacted by the previous administration and implemented for 7 years. This "astro-turf" movement either directly or indirectly blames the year old Obama administration for all ills, yet the REFUSE to point the finger at the originator. If they were to blame Obama for CONTINUATION, they'd have a legit gripe....but that is NOT what they are wailing about.

Like the teabaggers, these groups and their rallies have no qualms with jokers running around with the veiled threat of "don't push us too far", speeches about the country's ideals under seige, socialist takeover, etc., etc...much of the mindset and innuendos found in many of the groups spotlighted by the SPLC.

Like I said before, they want to mouth the platitudes and then wash their hands when others take it to heart. TFB for them if the SPLC spotlight makes them squirm.

This group was started in 2001. Obviously, they saw problems when Bush was president.

Please, answer the question. Where is the hate?

Because they don't like Obama they are a hate group? That's the only thing you argued but, I don't want you to cry straw man and that is an incredibly weak argument. So take another shot at it.

Please spare me this neocon BS of trying to supplant a "question" that IGNORES everything else presented that contradicts your assertions. I gave an explanation that you tried to "blah, blah" away. You're willful ignorance non-withstanding, I merely re-established the whole quote...which answers your question. If you don't understand the answer, get an adult to explain it to you. But as you've demonstrated, you don't have the guts to honestly debate the issue.

As for your "established in 2001" link, it's bottom line is tax protestation, and I have yet to hear about them condemning the nastiness that has been coming out of the mouths of teabag attendees, speakers and supporters. In fact, they condoned the birther movements insanity. So much for " We the People".

 

[Canceled1]

So sayeth the libtard liberal left.

I say we start with Apple! Cut out his core, peel his skin, and watch him turn brown.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Also, I would like to know what's the point? Is the SPLC just whipping up fear or do they want the government to take action?

How is accurate reporting "whipping up fear"? Are you supporting the the mindset of the hate groups they report on? Are you supporting the similar mouthings, fear mongering and veiled threats that have been coming out at the teabag rallies?