Bush Admin. Cleared-Again

My numbers are from Iraqbodycount, so stop referencing a site you think is bullshit, and that blows your argument apart.

your numbers from iraqbodycount are total Iraqi casualties.....you pretend all Iraqi casualties are caused by Allied action.....in truth, the vast majority of Iraqi casualties are caused by the terrorists.....the statistics prove it, you are running away from looking at them.....your initial claim is bullshit and you don't dare address it.....
 

Policeman shot dead in al-Salam, Tal Afar
12-13 by suicide car bomb in Ramadi
Policeman by roadside bomb, Saba al-Bour, north Baghdad
Aide of election candidate shot dead in Maysan
Policeman shot dead in Tel al- Ruman, west Mosul
Policeman shot dead near home in al-Quds, east Mosul
Christian university student shot dead in al-Arabi, north Mosul
Two police by car bomb at crime lab, al-Nabi Younes, east Mosul
One by rocket at office of al-Ahrar party in Baghdad

not a single one killed by Allied forces in the page you linked....my bet is you can't come up with 5k let alone 100k....
 
your numbers from iraqbodycount are total Iraqi casualties.....you pretend all Iraqi casualties are caused by Allied action.....in truth, the vast majority of Iraqi casualties are caused by the terrorists.....the statistics prove it, you are running away from looking at them.....your initial claim is bullshit and you don't dare address it.....

I'm not running away from anything. My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with.

Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

You can argue all you want that terrorists caused the vast majority, etc. but it's QED that the U.S. initiated the situation leading to blood being spilled.

That blood is on the bush administration's hands, and may they burn in hell because of it.
 
Policeman shot dead in al-Salam, Tal Afar
12-13 by suicide car bomb in Ramadi
Policeman by roadside bomb, Saba al-Bour, north Baghdad
Aide of election candidate shot dead in Maysan
Policeman shot dead in Tel al- Ruman, west Mosul
Policeman shot dead near home in al-Quds, east Mosul
Christian university student shot dead in al-Arabi, north Mosul
Two police by car bomb at crime lab, al-Nabi Younes, east Mosul
One by rocket at office of al-Ahrar party in Baghdad

not a single one killed by Allied forces in the page you linked....my bet is you can't come up with 5k let alone 100k....

Post 157.
 
I'm not running away from anything. My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with.

Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

You can argue all you want that terrorists caused the vast majority, etc. but it's QED that the U.S. initiated the situation leading to blood being spilled.

That blood is on the bush administration's hands, and may they burn in hell because of it.


She's right PiMP. There wouldn't have been a civil war in Iraq, except for the fact that you cheerled, and Bush launched an illegal, immoral, and unneccessary war.

Those hundreds of thousands of deaths are on your and Bush's hands.
 
I'm not running away from anything. My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with.

Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

You can argue all you want that terrorists caused the vast majority, etc. but it's QED that the U.S. initiated the situation leading to blood being spilled.

That blood is on the bush administration's hands, and may they burn in hell because of it.


DAMN Mr. Ford!!

There would have been no deaths from car accidents, if he had only NOT invented that car.

It's all his fault, that all those people have died.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Not quite.....you have to take into account deaths as a result of 12 years of "strategic bombing", then you have to take into account deaths by various spikes in cancers in areas heavy with DU dust. Then there are those nasty cluster bombs, people dying from lack of water, food, etc., after the local infrastructure was bombed out of existence. Even Iraqi body count concedes that there is a LOT of grey area regarding the results of the forementioned. And remember, we are talking cumulative here. So "vast majority" is somewhat of a distortion on your part. Check out the PDF on Iraq Body Count the dossier on civilian body count 2003-2005 thoroughly, and please just don't stop reading at the parts that you think bolster your claim.
What a misguided maroon he is. Just when you think you've heard it all.... :palm:

It's the same old tired neocon game....excerpt what they like and disregard the rest.
 
I'm not running away from anything. My initial claim is that none of the casualties dating from the U.S. invasion of 2003 could have happened if there hadn't been an invasion to start with.

Directly and indirectly the casualties of the Iraq war were caused by U.S. action. No war launched by the U.S., no casualties caused by the U.S. How hard is that to understand?

You can argue all you want that terrorists caused the vast majority, etc. but it's QED that the U.S. initiated the situation leading to blood being spilled.

That blood is on the bush administration's hands, and may they burn in hell because of it.
well shucks.....it's all the fault of some butterfly who flapped his wings in Brazil.....your just a typical brainless liberal who refuses to blame a guy with a stick of dynamite for killing school children....it's got to be Bush's fault instead.....get a fucking life.....
 
She's right PiMP. There wouldn't have been a civil war in Iraq, except for the fact that you cheerled, and Bush launched an illegal, immoral, and unneccessary war.

Those hundreds of thousands of deaths are on your and Bush's hands.

fuckin' liberals.....if you hadn't been busy sucking Saddam's dick before the war, he might have been smart enough to cooperate with the UN.....you make me sick.....
 
fuckin' liberals.....if you hadn't been busy sucking Saddam's dick before the war, he might have been smart enough to cooperate with the UN.....you make me sick.....

I love it when you neocons keep repeating the same ignorant dreck over and Over and OVER, like the rest of the world is as willfully ignorant as you and immediately pretends various historical events didn't happen.

Hussein was OUR BOY for years, you big dummy. Do your homework on the relationship between the CIA and the Ba'ath Party....research on our support during the 8 year Iran/Iraq war, how the Reagan Admin. (Daddy Bush the VP) REMOVED Iraq from the terrorist sponsor list....how our gov't supplied Iraq with the materials necessary to construct WMD's, and how Rumsfeld shook the bastard's hand to firm up those oil pipe construction contracts after the Kurds got gassed. Then there's the topper of our Amb. Glaspie as a Rep of the Secty of State assuring Hussein that the USA would NOT get involved in his border dispute with Kuwait (she's still under gag order not to discuss the matter with the press, don't cha know).

Hussein became Public Enemy #1 when he lost his mind and thought it was actually HIS country to do what he pleased with....and nabbing Kuwait (annexed by the Brits from Iraq, who wanted a fast payment on the loan to Iraq to fight Iran...and then the border oil drilling contention) would have increased Iraq's hold on the global oil market. Follow up all the lies and BS about killing babies in hospitals, WMD's, no fly zones, embargos, strategic bombing for 12 years, a surrogate gov't...and only a fool would try and say that the majority of deaths in Iraq are due to domestic internal violence.
 
and only a fool would try and say that the majority of deaths in Iraq are due to domestic internal violence.
only a fool would deny the FACT that the majority of deaths in Iraq were caused by Iraqi terrorists killing Iraqis.....you can provide all the partisan whitewash you want, but it doesn't change the fact that bombs set off in marketplaces were not placed there to kill Americans.....
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
and only a fool would try and say that the majority of deaths in Iraq are due to domestic internal violence.

only a fool would deny the FACT that the majority of deaths in Iraq were caused by Iraqi terrorists killing Iraqis.....you can provide all the partisan whitewash you want, but it doesn't change the fact that bombs set off in marketplaces were not placed there to kill Americans.....

I noticed you totally avoided how I proved your ignorance regarding Hussein and Iraq....typical of your intellectual cowardice.

As the posts show, both Christie and I used the reference site YOU provided...the DIFFERENCE is that we read MORE than just one article and point from that site....and the conclusions were FAR different than what you are repeatedly squawking (as I referenced and what Christie provided in excerpt).

Bottom line: you were proven wrong, factually and logically, and as usual rather than grow a pair and admit it, you'll just repeat your dreck ad nauseum like a child. Carry on.
 
I noticed you totally avoided how I proved your ignorance regarding Hussein and Iraq....typical of your intellectual cowardice.

????....like most things that never happened, it is easy to ignore.....

As the posts show, both Christie and I used the reference site YOU provided...the DIFFERENCE is that we read MORE than just one article and point from that site....and the conclusions were FAR different than what you are repeatedly squawking (as I referenced and what Christie provided in excerpt).

no, the difference is, I used the facts the website provided and you used the opinion the website provided.....

Bottom line: you were proven wrong
/shrugs....the facts prove I am right....something we all know you will never acknowledge.....
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I noticed you totally avoided how I proved your ignorance regarding Hussein and Iraq....typical of your intellectual cowardice.

????....like most things that never happened, it is easy to ignore.....


As the posts show, both Christie and I used the reference site YOU provided...the DIFFERENCE is that we read MORE than just one article and point from that site....and the conclusions were FAR different than what you are repeatedly squawking (as I referenced and what Christie provided in excerpt).

no, the difference is, I used the facts the website provided and you used the opinion the website provided.....

Bottom line: you were proven wrong

/shrugs....the facts prove I am right....something we all know you will never acknowledge.....

He's done, ladies and gentlemen......all he'll do is act like a stubborn, petulant child, saying "no, it isn't" despite evidence to the contrary on the thread.

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Once again, he proves himself to be a Post Modern Fool.

Goodnight, Gracie!
 
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well shucks.....it's all the fault of some butterfly who flapped his wings in Brazil.....your just a typical brainless liberal who refuses to blame a guy with a stick of dynamite for killing school children....it's got to be Bush's fault instead.....get a fucking life.....

Ha, my life is just fine, thanks for asking. Especially after seeing you reduced to spluttering obscenities rather than admitting the part bush and his coven played in Iraqi civilian deaths.
 
????....like most things that never happened, it is easy to ignore.....



no, the difference is, I used the facts the website provided and you used the opinion the website provided.....


/shrugs....the facts prove I am right....something we all know you will never acknowledge.....

Stand tall, pmp. The movement relies on deniers like you.


(lFollowed by hundreds of pages more)
20 Mar 2003-20 Apr 2003 7-0 civilian deaths recorded in Najaf hospitals
20 Mar 2003-11 Apr 2003 10-35 in and near al-Yarmouk hospital, Baghdad
20 Mar 2003-11 Apr 2003 185 Battle victims received at Mahmoudiya Hospital
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 526-907 buried by Mosque-based burial societies
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 0-22 in Baghdad hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 83 civilian deaths recorded at Samawa hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 58 civilian deaths recorded at Diwaniyah hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 67 civilian deaths recorded at Madain hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 47-49 civilian deaths recorded at Kut hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 125-126 civlian deaths recorded at Karbala hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 38 civilian deaths recorded in Tikrit hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 1482-2009 recorded by 19 Baghdad hospitals
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003i 216-345, three hospitals, Najaf
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 142-200 civilian deaths recorded in Basra
20 Mar 2003-9 Apr 2003 201 by US bombing in Basra
20 Mar 2003-7 Apr 2003 30 fleeing in cars, Tallil and Nasiriyah
20 Mar 2003-6 Apr 2003 633 by US air and ground attacks in Nassiriya
20 Mar 2003-6 Apr 2003 4-60, Az Zubayr hospital
20 Mar 2003-4 Apr 2003 22 by US air attacks in Mohammedia
20 Mar 2003-3 Apr 2003 226-240 by US air raids in Nassiriya
20 Mar 2003-3 Apr 2003 One by US airstrikes in Rutba

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/incidents/page444
 
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