Section 1981 U.S. Code... The Civil Rights act of 1866...

Taichiliberal said:
Bottom line: All one has to do is a quick review of the number of terrorists types prosecuted in Federal Court during the Shrub's 8 years to know that all this sudden panic over trying Gitmo folk is just another part of the "get Obama" agenda of the bitter neocon driven GOP. I mean, the sheer hypocrisy of these jokers is astounding!
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Yup, Yup, Yup...

I belive Americans are starting to smarten up on the issue...

Who saw Biden point out Cheney's hypocracy this weekend?
 
bravo said:
You entitled to your opinions, not your own facts...

During the 1960s, many liberals self-righteously screamed about racism, demanding that the federal government coerce Southerners into racial integration. The result of their heavy-handed tactics was more racial antagonism.

In the fall of 1968, 68 percent of black children in the South were attending all-black schools. Enter Nixon, 1969... By 1974, that number had fallen to 8 percent. This extraordinary accomplishment was achieved through the shrewd political skills and raw courage of President Nixon, Secretary of Labor George Schultz, and Attorney General John Mitchell.

Vice President Spiro Agnew chaired a special Cabinet Committee on Education, which was to find the best course of action to peacefully desegregate Southern schools in accordance with a 1969 court order.

In a 1970 memo, presidential counselor Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote, “There has been more change in the structure of American public school education in the last month than in the past 100 years.” And, like going to China, only Nixon could have done it.
Moynihan was an honorable Democrat...unlike todays breed.
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Interesting, let me ask you this... Why did the South suddenly stop voting for Democrats and now almost exclusivly votes for Republicans?
 
maineman said:
are you denying the existence of a southern strategy?

further... are you suggesting that the vast majority of blacks in America, who, up until the early 50's voted almost lock step with the republican party, are so stupid that they would vote FOR a party of racists that wants to keep them shackled?

be a man and just answer those two questions...but I won't hold my breath.
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Are you ignorant of history or just brainwashed by Democrats....

Following the Civil War and the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, Black’s initially aligned themselves with Republicans.

When given protection against antagonistic and often violent southern Democrats, voting Blacks displayed an overwhelming loyalty towards the party of Lincoln. Some estimates suggest that 90% of the southern Black population voted directly following the Civil War.

“ The Ku Klux Klan at the same time assassinated both Black and white Republican leaders during election campaigns, including legislators, convention delegates, and at least one congressman; meanwhile, in many places white mobs destroyed Republican newspapers, shot at election parades, and massacred Blacks indiscriminately.”

Despite southern opposition this partnership would last through the 19th century and well into the 20th before FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.

Now research what the New Deal was and your answer is clear.....
To answer your question in two words...welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)


Read more at Suite101: African American Voting Patterns: Black Voting Demographics 2008 Democratic Primary Statistics http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/african_american_voting_patterns#ixzz0fcdaQbVG
 
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bravo said:
Are you ignorant of history or just brainwashed by Democrats....

Following the Civil War and the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, Black’s initially aligned themselves with Republicans.

When given protection against antagonistic and often violent southern Democrats, voting Blacks displayed an overwhelming loyalty towards the party of Lincoln. Some estimates suggest that 90% of the southern Black population voted directly following the Civil War.

“ The Ku Klux Klan at the same time assassinated both Black and white Republican leaders during election campaigns, including legislators, convention delegates, and at least one congressman; meanwhile, in many places white mobs destroyed Republican newspapers, shot at election parades, and massacred Blacks indiscriminately.”

Despite southern opposition this partnership would last through the 19th century and well into the 20th before FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.

Now research what the New Deal was and your answer is clear.....
To answer your question in two words...welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)


Read more at Suite101: African American Voting Patterns: Black Voting Demographics 2008 Democratic Primary Statistics http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/african_american_voting_patterns#ixzz0fcdaQbVG
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Yes, through welfare (the new deal) many black American's were bought and paid for by democrats...color me surprised. Can anyone say healthcare purchased votes? Welfare creates a system of perpetual poverty. It is dems that encourage poverty.
 
bravo said:
Are you ignorant of history or just brainwashed by Democrats....

Following the Civil War and the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, Black’s initially aligned themselves with Republicans.

When given protection against antagonistic and often violent southern Democrats, voting Blacks displayed an overwhelming loyalty towards the party of Lincoln. Some estimates suggest that 90% of the southern Black population voted directly following the Civil War.

“ The Ku Klux Klan at the same time assassinated both Black and white Republican leaders during election campaigns, including legislators, convention delegates, and at least one congressman; meanwhile, in many places white mobs destroyed Republican newspapers, shot at election parades, and massacred Blacks indiscriminately.”

Despite southern opposition this partnership would last through the 19th century and well into the 20th before FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.

Now research what the New Deal was and your answer is clear.....
To answer your question in two words...welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)


Read more at Suite101: African American Voting Patterns: Black Voting Demographics 2008 Democratic Primary Statistics http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/african_american_voting_patterns#ixzz0fcdaQbVG
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you still failed to answer my questions.

Why did blacks, who I agree voted for the republican party up until the 1950's switch to the democratic party, and it is CERTAINLY not because of a few government jobs?

and do you deny the existence of a southern strategy for the GOP?

try again.
 
maineman said:
you still failed to answer my questions.

Why did blacks, who I agree voted for the republican party up until the 1950's switch to the democratic party, and it is CERTAINLY not because of a few government jobs?

and do you deny the existence of a southern strategy for the GOP?

try again.
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try again ? Why don't try to "READ AGAIN"....

Why would I deny it....it was a liberal that instigated it to polarize the races in the south....it wasn't a Republican idea to begin with...
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Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to liberal political commentator Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it, but merely popularized it.

In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

While Phillips sought to polarize ethnic voting in general, and not just to win the white South, the South was by far the biggest prize yielded by his approach.
Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The phrase "states rights" was twisted and spin by liberals and their media machine until it had an was falsely seen as anti-black.

Republicans have been champions of state rights since the days of Lincoln and still are.....

Blacks were 'bought and paid for" with welfare and government jobs..
I don't blame them at all...they were desperate....they were/are victims....victims of a new slavery from liberals and they have barely begun to realize it....

The left wing bias of the wikipedia article is addressed here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Southern_strategy#NPOV_2
 
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bravo said:
Are you ignorant of history or just brainwashed by Democrats....

Following the Civil War and the enactment of the Fifteenth Amendment, Black’s initially aligned themselves with Republicans.

When given protection against antagonistic and often violent southern Democrats, voting Blacks displayed an overwhelming loyalty towards the party of Lincoln. Some estimates suggest that 90% of the southern Black population voted directly following the Civil War.

“ The Ku Klux Klan at the same time assassinated both Black and white Republican leaders during election campaigns, including legislators, convention delegates, and at least one congressman; meanwhile, in many places white mobs destroyed Republican newspapers, shot at election parades, and massacred Blacks indiscriminately.”

Despite southern opposition this partnership would last through the 19th century and well into the 20th before FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.

Now research what the New Deal was and your answer is clear.....
To answer your question in two words...welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)


Read more at Suite101: African American Voting Patterns: Black Voting Demographics 2008 Democratic Primary Statistics http://racism-politics.suite101.com/article.cfm/african_american_voting_patterns#ixzz0fcdaQbVG
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You STILL haven't explained why Blacks switched to the Democrats? By your own words, the Dems in the South were aligned with the Klan. So your vague references to the New Deal coupled with the moronic insinuation that the KLAN drove them to it won't fly, bunky. If you're going to parrot David Duke malarky, at least TRY to make it plausible.
 
If we are going to do this, why did the fucking Germans vote for the Jeffersonians? Why did the fucking Irish vote for the Jacksonian Democrats? It all comes down to which party has got its hands in the cookie jar.
 
Taichiliberal said:
You STILL haven't explained why Blacks switched to the Democrats? By your own words, the Dems in the South were aligned with the Klan. So your vague references to the New Deal coupled with the moronic insinuation that the KLAN drove them to it won't fly, bunky. If you're going to parrot David Duke malarky, at least TRY to make it plausible.
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Nothing vague about it at all.....

FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.


welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)

Black Americans were bought and paid for by the Democrats and the Democrats own them....
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wanderingbear said:
The fact that the U.S. Constitution says that civil and human rights are inalienable rights and that no power on earth has the right to take them away for any reason is often ignored by the right wing of the republican party.
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As they should because that is not the principle / definition of inalienable rights.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
You STILL haven't explained why Blacks switched to the Democrats? By your own words, the Dems in the South were aligned with the Klan. So your vague references to the New Deal coupled with the moronic insinuation that the KLAN drove them to it won't fly, bunky. If you're going to parrot David Duke malarky, at least TRY to make it plausible.
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bravo said:
Nothing vague about it at all.....

FDR would recruit a large percentage of the African American (as well as white) population into the Democratic Party through his New Deal legislation. Later, Truman would integrate the federal service, thus ingratiating an even greater number of African Americans to the Democratic Party.


welfare and government jobs....(practically the same thing)

Black Americans were bought and paid for by the Democrats and the Democrats own them....
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Let me point out the flaws in your statements:

1. The New Deal was NOT created for the sole purpose of "recruiting" anyone. The laws and programs enacted did not require "recruitment", as they were enacted through the Congress as an overall economic revamp for America. Bottom line: AMERICA benefitted from the New Deal's job programs and relief programs. Major civil rights headway didn't happen (desegregation, access to Social Security, anti-discrimination laws), but black folk did get a better shot at the relief programs available....something the Republicans weren't doing in their states, as the GOP was split on supporting the New Deal. This was the reason for the shift of the black vote at this time, especially in the North.

2. Truman's main contribution was the desegregation of the US military. Truman was no flaming liberal, but he was a patriot with the highest regard for the men and women in military service. This move coupled with a later act to end discrimination in Civil Service did give black folk reason to vote Democratic.

Bottom line: The New Deal SAVED THIS COUNTRY'S ASS. And since blacks back then were less than10% of the population, the "welfare and gov't jobs" weren't just geared for black folk....but they were for the ENTIRE ECONOMIC INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COUNTRY.

And what Truman did had NOTHING to do with welfare...period. Civil service fills in what private enterprise can't. Hell, the baby boomer generation was the biggest gov't subsidy in this country's history (the GI bill, bank loans for housing, etc.). Truman just made available to black citizens what was available to white citizens....and being that the blacks paid taxes just like the whites, that was a fair deal.

Bottom line: the GOP did NOT deliver these laws and programs to blacks, the Dems did. Money talks, bullshit walks.
 
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