Scientific Proof: Warmers Hate Trees!

The sheer embarrassment of having their scientific evidence tainted, has not stopped the 'Global Warmers' from attempting to continue advancing their agenda. The first thing they scream is, "but look at all the other studies out there!" The thing is, they were all predicated on the evidence which was flawed, and raw data which is mysteriously no longer available, so they are pretty much irrelevant now. It's like trying to make the case for Milli-Vanilli winning a lifetime achievement award at the Grammys, based on the number of fans they had and records sold!

Armed with no science data, the Warmers continue to insist that it's really possibly likely that man might be contributing to climate change through emission of carbon dioxide, a natural element which all mammals produce as long as they live, and always have since the very first mammal. Carbon dioxide, also known as CO2, is one of several gasses which comprise the "greenhouse gases" we hear so much about. What are the others? Ozone... remember it? We had to ban all hairsprays and aerosols back in the 80s because we were destroying the "ozone layer" ...a part of our greenhouse system. Methane is another... cow farts! But seriously, the leading contributor of methane to our atmosphere is someone you wouldn't expect! It's good old Mother Earth! Yep... she belches out millions of cubic tons of the stuff every year. And finally, the behemoth greenhouse gas, one that gets so little notoriety, although it actually represents about 90% of the greenhouse gases... It's our good friend, Mr. Water Vapor! Oh yes... the very thing that Hydrogen Engines emit!

Now the Warmers have, for some reason, decided to myopically focus on carbon dioxide, our "carbon footprint" and ways they can regulate (control) business and industry, by insisting there is some detrimental element to carbon dioxide. It is now considered a "pollutant" by Warmers, and this has to be constantly corrected. It would take concentrations of carbon dioxide 1500 times greater than present, to be detrimental to humans. Subsequently, plant life flourishes in a rich environment of carbon dioxide. Greenhouses typically use carbon dioxide to produce more robust plants. Chances are, those roses you will give your sweetie on Sunday, will be the result of an atmosphere rich in carbon dioxide.

Botanical Scientists studying the history of plant life, will tell you that most plants on Earth evolved in a much richer CO2 environment, and up until the last 10k years, our plants have actually been starving for CO2. Ecological Scientists will say, a result of higher carbon dioxide in our atmosphere, will cause plants to grow in more arid regions, because CO2 helps the plants to retain water. As plant life flourishes on Earth, solutions to world food shortages is diminished, this should be obvious as an advantage to humans.

Regardless of where we turn, the actual SCIENCE indicates there is no cause for alarm, and no basis for the arguments of the Global Warming theories. Yet, the Warmers continue to forge on! Determined to make us "knuckledraggers" understand... to pound it into our heads with their propaganda... we WILL listen to what they have to say! And basically, what they have to say is a profession of their personal faith, and nothing more. Perhaps the Warmers should form a Church? Tax exempt status, freedom to practice their religious beliefs... it might be fitting for them at this point! Because basically, that is what you have, a religious cult, believing in something not based or rooted in science, and oblivious to scientific facts.
 
we live on a tiny little marble. for anyone to think that spewing tons of shit into the atmosphere for a century would have no negative effects is beyond ludicrous.

I can imagine that those folks don't even bother to get out of bed at night when they need to take a shit
 
we live on a tiny little marble. for anyone to think that spewing tons of shit into the atmosphere for a century would have no negative effects is beyond ludicrous.

I can imagine that those folks don't even bother to get out of bed at night when they need to take a shit

LMFAO.... Carbon dioxide is "spewing shit?" Because the whole 'global warming' argument is about the carbon dioxide man is putting into the atmosphere. We have the Clean Air Act and the EPA to monitor our "spewing shit" into the atmosphere now, it's under control. The issue now, is carbon dioxide, not pollution.

Here's the thing... you can think that something is "bound to have" negative effects, but unless you can scientifically demonstrate that, you haven't made your case. It is a speculative opinion that something is "bound to have" a negative effect. I happen to believe the Earth is a very proficient self-cleaner, and there isn't much that man could ever throw at it, that Earth couldn't eventually recover from in time. Think about the billions of tons of ash, sulfur, toxic gasses, spewing from the volcano eruptions in just the past 1,500 years, and while these cataclysmic natural events did alter the weather on Earth, gave us the "Little Ice Age" in the days of our early nation, but the Founding Fathers certainly didn't have to raise taxes and bilk commercial enterprise to try and change the climate... and we survived! The Earth survived!

Carbon dioxide in higher concentration in the atmosphere, is probably not going to change the climate enough to cause any measurable effect on man. If anything, the increase in carbon dioxide, is fundamentally better for plant life. Do any of you pinheads who claim you believe in science, want to step up and refute that fact, or not?
 
Carbon dioxide in higher concentration in the atmosphere, is probably not going to change the climate enough to cause any measurable effect on man. If anything, the increase in carbon dioxide, is fundamentally better for plant life. Do any of you pinheads who claim you believe in science, want to step up and refute that fact, or not?

what "fact" is in that opinion of yours that could be refuted?
 
do humans?

We are currently at a level of 360 ppm... that's parts, per million parts. OSHA's mine safety requirements allow up to 1,500 ppm for safe working environments. It would take concentrations 10x this much to be seriously detrimental to our health. With the environment, we are talking about levels in the hundreds of parts per million, that isn't a lot. Carbon dioxide only represents about 4% of the greenhouse gases.

Imagine if NASA had discovered a planet, almost exactly like Earth, but the atmosphere is higher in carbon dioxide, and all the plants are lush and tall. People would be talking about how we had discovered Paradise!
 
The fact that plants thrive in rich environments of carbon dioxide.

Go ahead, refute it!

I'd like to add my observation to yours, Dixie. People breathe out CO2 so if I'm drinking with a crowd of people the ice in my glass should melt quicker than if I'm drinking alone, assuming CO2 is a warming (greenhouse) gas, but that doesn't appear to happen. When in company my scotch is frequently gone while the ice is still in the glass.

Now, one could say that's subjective as opposed to being objective, however, this has been observed throughout the years, countless times. So, between plants thriving and my ice not melting quicker you may be on something as opposed to being on to something.

What do you think? :confused:
 
I'd like to add my observation to yours, Dixie. People breathe out CO2 so if I'm drinking with a crowd of people the ice in my glass should melt quicker than if I'm drinking alone, assuming CO2 is a warming (greenhouse) gas, but that doesn't appear to happen. When in company my scotch is frequently gone while the ice is still in the glass.

Now, one could say that's subjective as opposed to being objective, however, this has been observed throughout the years, countless times. So, between plants thriving and my ice not melting quicker you may be on something as opposed to being on to something.

What do you think? :confused:

Dixielogic, perfected.
 

You should wear a helmet! I know, the others laugh at you, but it would keep you from bumping your head so much!

Let me take this opportunity to reiterate a few points, since you bumped it...

100 years ago: CO2 = 200/1000000
Today: CO2= 360/1000000
OSHA Safe: CO2= 1500/1000000
Dangerous to Health: CO2= 15000/1000000

All mammals produce CO2 when they consume oxygen.
All plants consume CO2 when they produce oxygen.

CO2 is less than 4% of the total greenhouse gases.
95% of CO2 in the atmosphere is naturally occurring.
Plant life thrives in higher concentrations of CO2.
 
I'd like to add my observation to yours, Dixie. People breathe out CO2 so if I'm drinking with a crowd of people the ice in my glass should melt quicker than if I'm drinking alone, assuming CO2 is a warming (greenhouse) gas, but that doesn't appear to happen. When in company my scotch is frequently gone while the ice is still in the glass.

Now, one could say that's subjective as opposed to being objective, however, this has been observed throughout the years, countless times. So, between plants thriving and my ice not melting quicker you may be on something as opposed to being on to something.

What do you think? :confused:

I think YOU are on something, or need to be! What sort of convoluted explanation was that? Do you even understand science? Ice melts when its temp rises above freezing, it has nothing to do with the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere!
 
I think YOU are on something, or need to be! What sort of convoluted explanation was that? Do you even understand science? Ice melts when its temp rises above freezing, it has nothing to do with the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere!

LOL
 
we live on a tiny little marble. for anyone to think that spewing tons of shit into the atmosphere for a century would have no negative effects is beyond ludicrous.

I can imagine that those folks don't even bother to get out of bed at night when they need to take a shit

LOL same old tired strawman argument.

Get some new material. CO2 doesn't drive climate. anyone who still believes that is willfully ignorant. The feedback effect of CO2 has been overestimated by nearly a third. Water vapor, cloud formation due to cosmic ray flux have been ignored and attributed to CO2 forcing.
 
You should wear a helmet! I know, the others laugh at you, but it would keep you from bumping your head so much!

Let me take this opportunity to reiterate a few points, since you bumped it...

100 years ago: CO2 = 200/1000000
Today: CO2= 360/1000000
OSHA Safe: CO2= 1500/1000000
Dangerous to Health: CO2= 15000/1000000

All mammals produce CO2 when they consume oxygen.
All plants consume CO2 when they produce oxygen.

CO2 is less than 4% of the total greenhouse gases.
95% of CO2 in the atmosphere is naturally occurring.
Plant life thrives in higher concentrations of CO2.


Brilliant argument. I'd be proud to be a flat earth climate denialist, and have you on my side.

Now, can you point us to one single, solitary piece of legitimate climate science research that has ever claimed that the risk of elevated CO2 levels is the asphyxiation of humans, or toxicity to humans?

I'll check back. And if you can't provide one single solitary example of this, we will assume this is another of your 1/3 threads; aka a thread totally devoid of reality and science, but chock full of hilarity and boneheadedness.
 
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