Cops have no constitutional duty to protect you

Into the Night said:
Learn what 'fact' means. It does not mean 'Universal Truth' or 'proof'.

The 2nd amendment applies to the States as well as the federal government. It always has.
ALL of the remaining States echo the 2nd amendment in their own constitutions as well.



The right to self defense is inherent. It does not come from a piece of paper. Even an animal has this right of self defense. No matter how oppressive a government is, the right cannot be taken away.

The 2nd amendment discusses this right; both the right of an individual to defend himself by keeping and bearing arms, and the right of a State to defend itself by forming a militia (an army).

This right is not be infringed, by either the federal government nor by any State.

In the Washington State Constitution, the 2nd amendment is echoed:


Every State that joins the Union must agree to this.

The BATF is unconstitutional when it attempts to ban or limit any gun.
Gun control laws that limit or ban any type of gun or it's accessories is unconstitutional.
Any law banning or limiting any weapon is unconstitutional.

Arms is a weapon. It can be a club, a sap, a dart, sword, a bow and arrow, any type of gun, any type of explosive, any type of missile, or any type of bomb. ANY WEAPON.

Every animal has the right to defend itself with whatever means it has. So do people.

That said, you ARE responsible for the storage and use of that weapon. If I want to manufacture explosives, for example, I can. I am responsible for storing them safely, and manufacturing them safely. I do both. My storage magazine isn't near any road or someone else's house. My manufacturing facility is not near the magazine, any road, or someone else's house. They are transported only by authorized personnel and in accordance with DOT rules.

If I want to manufacture a gun and even the ammunition for it, I can. I am responsible for safely manufacturing it, testing it, storing it, and using it. I always treat the thing as loaded. I don't point it at anyone except someone about to commit a felony act against my person, my family, or my property.
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everything you've said is true, except for the bolded part. The founding fathers wrote and ratified the US Constitution as a limitation on their new federal government, ONLY.
 
evince said:
The SCOTUS just destroyed America’s entire civil structure folks
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How goes Christian Nation SCOTUS Fourth Reich July Bicentennial & Fourth Reich July "what is 9/11" Freudian slip ethics of Christiananality pedophilia more perfect union to Mohammed Valhalla pedophilia martyrdom......
 
SmarterthanYou said:
everything you've said is true, except for the bolded part. The founding fathers wrote and ratified the US Constitution as a limitation on their new federal government, ONLY.
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You are denying the content of all remaining State constitutions??
You agree with me but disagree with me on the same statements???
 
SmarterthanYou said:
how am I denying the content if that content doesn't exist? Take California, for example, they have no provision in their state constitution that denotes a right to keep and bear arms.
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California is not a State of the Union. They do not recognize the Constitution of the United States nor their own State constitution. I call it the SDTC now.
It's current form of government is dictatorship. They shouldn't even have representation in Congress.

Even with that, the right to self defense is inherent. The SDTC cannot take it away. They can try to make it illegal, but they cannot take it away.

When California WAS a State, they were bound by the 2nd amendment just as all States are.
 
Hermes Thoth said:
this is technically an irrational statement.

the existence or not of government tyranny is not dependent upon whether or not a specific person does or doesn't "do something about it"..

are you inciting violence?

maybe smarterthanyou still has faith that civilization and the system will prevail over you Marxist bloodthirsty zombies.
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This is the stupidest post I've read all year.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
like other irrational and emotional types, LV is so full of self loathing and hatred that even the slightest disagreement with her desired state of civilian subjugation to big government triggers her in to hysterics, causing her to lash out with the most extreme hyperbole she can muster in the hopes that it sets her bipolar and unbalanced mindset back in to her own focus.
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You have yet to make an argument for me to disagree!

Bottom line is that you are on record saying the reason you have guns is to protect from government tyranny, except that every single time the government has been tyrannical over the last 40 years you've defended that tyranny.

So you're full of shit, just like every other Conservative Nazi I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.
 
Hermes Thoth said:
no.

you said the dumbest thing, and I corrected you.
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What did I say that was dumb? That he says he has his guns to protect against government tyranny, except that every single time the government has been tyrannical over the last 40 years he defends that tyranny.

So it would seem that he's lying about why he has guns.
 
LV426 said:
All they care about are protecting themselves.

That's why none of them confronted the Uvalde shooter.

It sure seemed like they were doing more to help the shooter than stop him.

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/...ot-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
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The constitution is first and foremost the nation's announcement and description of incorporation.

It's NOT a comprehensive document outlining everything that we're required to do
and everything that we're proscribed from doing.

At least half the people posting on this forum seem to think that it is.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
The constitution is first and foremost the nation's announcement and description of incorporation.

It's NOT a comprehensive document outlining everything that we're required to do
and everything that we're proscribed from doing.

At least half the people posting on this forum seem to think that it is.
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I'm convinced most everyone on JPP has never actually read the Constitution in full.
 
LV426 said:
I'm convinced most everyone on JPP has never actually read the Constitution in full.
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I'm sure that most did in school.
Who remembers everything from school, though?

And there's no guarantee that the teachers presented it properly, either.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I'm sure that most did in school.
Who remembers everything from school, though?
And there's no guarantee that the teachers presented it properly, either.
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I always laugh whenever I hear someone say they carry a pocket version of the Constitution on them...that's usually clue #1 that they've never actually read it.

The Constitution and The Bible are the only two things that certain people say they've read but actually haven't.
 
Cypress said:
A lot of people imagine they could be a courageous hero.

Imagination and bluster are easy.

Just like a lot of "Second Amendment solutions" blowhards stayed home with their bang-bangs on Jan 6 rather than answer Trump's alarmist call that the republic was in grave danger.
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Comrade, there was no such "call," as we all know. Yes, you need to lie because November is going to be a blowout for you America haters.

In real time, in the fog of uncertainty, and not knowing any Intel about how many shooters were in the school building, I have serious doubts that any of the "good guys with guns" who post on this board would have
actually courageously rushed into the Uvalde school.
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You know nothing, you're just mindlessly flinging shit like a feral baboon.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
This is why every American should have one or more guns in their home - to protect themselves. No one else is going to.
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1. Most criminals are armed with guns that were first bought legally.

2. As many as 300,000 guns go missing every year, and 90% of the time, the authorities aren't made aware.

3. The primary means by which criminals get guns is via theft from people's homes or cars.

So you buy a gun to protect your home and car from criminals armed with guns they stole from homes and cars.

That's a cynical, bloody cycle that has done nothing to stem the flood of 40,000+ gun deaths every year.

It's not a question of IF you lose track of your guns but WHEN.
 
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