Israeli archaeologist ; No evidence to support Israelites. Old Testament is a myth.

Doc Dutch said:
Disagreed as the remainder of your post proves.

Agreed on belief since anything beyond the physical, or "before" the Big Bang is all "belief".

Nice flip-flop from atheist to agnostic. You say one thing then post another.
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Haha and now you resort to blatant lies.

I said nothing about my belief system prior. I said one single thing that 'death is death' and somehow you then called me an atheist.

I am not bounded by your stupidity.

But by all means QUOTE anything i say suggesting i was an atheist.
 
QP! said:
Haha and now you resort to blatant lies.

I said nothing about my belief system prior. I said one single thing that 'death is death' and somehow you then called me an atheist.

I am not bounded by your stupidity.

But by all means QUOTE anything i say suggesting i was an atheist.
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Thanks for the emotional response totally lacking on facts. :thup:
 
QP! said:
No emotion in my post, sorry.

"Majority of humans" is not a scientific standard, otherwise we have a real problem with all the conflicts between the Muslim religion and the Catholic religion because if 'beliefs' alone equal proof, they are both right in all their conflicting beliefs. I am talking about the disagreements in belief, not where they agree.

Also i don't need scientific evidence anything is 100% wrong. That is a stupid thing people who do not understand science say. "prove 100% Xeno and Scientology are not true..." "oh you cannot prove Xeno is not real. Then my science is as good as yours".


Again the above argument you are using is anti science stupidity that people who cannot support or prove their belief say.

The ONLY evidence we have on the topic of 'people who dead being dead", is to the affirmative. We can confirm they are dead by testing their bodies with science to affirm that.

The ONLY thing anyone can offer to counter that is a BELIEF, and not science.


I am agnostic with regards to a God, intelligent Aliens, Xeno, and the Spaghetti monster. We have no facts or evidence to prove any of them exist and if evidence ever presents and is proven i will accept it.

But that DOES not mean that is an equal position to the 'BELIEVERS' position. Just because Tom Cruise BELIEVES in Xeno, and has FAITH he exists, is, in no way equal to the agnostic position.

Religion is foundationless, outside 'belief' when it comes to a god like being. It is fairy tales, as unsupported as Lord of the Rings, belief in Sauren existing.

Death being final is supported.
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dutch believes the bible is a theocratic real estate deed to the holy land for his spiritual superiors.
 
JesusAI said:
all the republican candidates are anti-groomer.

desantis has been best on that specific issue, but alas, he's a deep state ingrate jibber jabber.
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anti-groomer = homosexual pedophilia.

The Pedo Party supports raping underage girls. Examples: Trump, Roy Moore, Matt Gaetz.
 
JesusAI said:
you don't know enough words and its embarrassing for you.
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Trump is a well-known pedophile. He bragged about it like he did about stealing US classified documents.

Is there any denying that both Roy Moore and Matt Gaetz raped 15 to 17 year old girls?

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moon said:
Israeli archaeologist ; No evidence to support Israelites. Old Testament is a myth.
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That is not what he is claiming, and that is not a logical claim.

The Kingdom of Israel definitely existed, and therefore its inhabitants, the Israelites, definitely existed. There are a lot of things that are extremely questionable, but that is not. The Israelites definitely existed.

Their origin story is up for debate. Is the Exodus story from Egypt real, or did they drive the Egyptians out of Canaan? No one doubts they were in Israel, and had carved a kingdom out of the old Canaan, but where they came from is in question.

And where they went to is also in question.

There was definitely a Kingdom of Judah with Jews in it to the south of the Kingdom of Israel. There is little evidence that it was ever united with Israel, like the Old Testament claims. When the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, possible well educated refugees came south to Judah and spread their origin myth of an Exodus. That might have become the origin myth of the Jews.

But the Jews were definitely in the area around Jerusalem before the Babylonian Captivity. The Babylonian Captivity definitely happened in some form. And the Jews definitely repopulated Judah.

Jews expanded out to almost all of Israel, and the West Bank(but not so much Gaza) by the time of Jesus. That is without doubt. What is in doubt is whether the actual Jewish People expanded out, the surrounding peoples were converted into being Jewish People, or whether they were conquered and forced to be Jewish People. Jesus, as a Jew, felt comfortable in both Bethlehem(West Bank to the south of Jerusalem), and Nazareth(today Northern Israel). In fact, he is most identified with North Israel.

Finally, we know that Jews live in Israel now.
 
Walt said:
moon said:
Israeli archaeologist ; No evidence to support Israelites. Old Testament is a myth.
https://noahkennedy.net/zeev-herzog-and-the-historicity-of-the-bible/

....but Israeli Jewish fascism is not.

Rise up and smite them, prosemitic dumbasses
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That is not what he is claiming, and that is not a logical claim.
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Agreed. Moon is a moonbat and exemplifies why radical Islam is doomed to die....or he's a MAGAt troll proving Poe's Law. Either way, he's wrong and an immoral person.
 
Walt said:
That is not what he is claiming, and that is not a logical claim.

The Kingdom of Israel definitely existed, and therefore its inhabitants, the Israelites, definitely existed. There are a lot of things that are extremely questionable, but that is not. The Israelites definitely existed.

Their origin story is up for debate. Is the Exodus story from Egypt real, or did they drive the Egyptians out of Canaan? No one doubts they were in Israel, and had carved a kingdom out of the old Canaan, but where they came from is in question.

And where they went to is also in question.

There was definitely a Kingdom of Judah with Jews in it to the south of the Kingdom of Israel. There is little evidence that it was ever united with Israel, like the Old Testament claims. When the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, possible well educated refugees came south to Judah and spread their origin myth of an Exodus. That might have become the origin myth of the Jews.

But the Jews were definitely in the area around Jerusalem before the Babylonian Captivity. The Babylonian Captivity definitely happened in some form. And the Jews definitely repopulated Judah.

Jews expanded out to almost all of Israel, and the West Bank(but not so much Gaza) by the time of Jesus. That is without doubt. What is in doubt is whether the actual Jewish People expanded out, the surrounding peoples were converted into being Jewish People, or whether they were conquered and forced to be Jewish People. Jesus, as a Jew, felt comfortable in both Bethlehem(West Bank to the south of Jerusalem), and Nazareth(today Northern Israel). In fact, he is most identified with North Israel.

Finally, we know that Jews live in Israel now.
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It's detestable when people like Hitler, Stalin, and Moon rewrite or cherry pick history to serve a political agenda.
 
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