Many careers were damaged or ended for the crime of questioning or contradicting the Regime.
NY Times Upshot: What the Data Says About Pandemic School Closures, Four Years Later
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Many careers were damaged or ended for the crime of questioning or contradicting the Regime.
Covid is possibly the largest upwards transfer of wealth in history. Americans are too divided over this to prevent it from happening again. Turns out that woke is another word for authoritarian.
Yeah, I got COVID from my grandsons who got it at school, asymptomatic, gave it to their parents and to me and my wife. I thought she would need to be hospitalized for a bit.
Both decisions, to open or not, were political. And the disease still is, isn’t it? DESPITE the current science, we still have Trumpers on this forum calling the vaccination the death jab and attributing everything from hemorrhoids to heart attacks to the vaccine.
cawacko
Well-known member
Short of never leaving the house there was always going to be risk of someone getting COVID. The whole point of lockdowns wasn't that no one would ever get it but we manage the spread and not overwhelm the hospitals at first. If we wanted zero COVID no one would have ever left their home or interacted with anyone but no one was going to do that.
You are correct in that it was a political decision by definition because it was the gov't that decided when to close, then reopen, the schools. That said, a lot of the rhetoric at the time was 'follow the science' and on this hugely important issues many didn't.
If Americans were going to resist the chains designed by the New Slavers it would have happened by now.
This son of a bitch is going down.
Geeko Sportivo
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Sir, you always have a nasty way to plug your Political Narratives here in the forum you politically motivated snoberish ASSHOLE- ALWAYS POINTING YOUR LITTLE FINGER AT EVERYONE BUT YOURSELF.
You are literally politicizing, criticizing, and misrepresenting the mitigation efforts of one of the most deadly worldwide pandemics in history!
The Goal was to save lives, and not try to capitalize on an opportunity to score some cheap political points for Donald Trump.
FUCK YOU AND SHAME ON YOU!
I despise people like you- who turn everything in the world into a political argument.
You are just as evil as Donald Trump for politicizing the pandemic!
When are you going to stop kissing Donald Trump's ass? YOU PHONY FUCK! You criticize the idiot- yet you are no different than him!
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Yep, the THEORY of lockdowns was not a bad one, but the PUBLIC POLICY of that theoretical situation just didn’t work. People still gathered in groups, which destroyed any benefit the lockdown isolation provided.
cawacko is one of the most polite posters on this forum.
Your contempt and discourse is more evidence that you are not sincere when you say you don't hate. Then you wail TRUMP!
That said, the point (that obviously flew miles over your head) was the fact that keeping kids home was detrimental to their
education. They only had to spend 2 or 3 hours online 4 days a week (here) and they probably just signed in and opened another window to play games.
WTH?????? He is one of the more polite and reasoned posters this forum ever had. Some of you LWers have really gone way over the edge . You see every small difference of opinion as if it is pure evil. Wake up,....this is America,...EVERYONE has a right to their own opinions without being persecuted for them. We are people,....not lemmings. Some of you took the very same tone toward Nomad in another thread. You DEMAND absolute fealty to all things Left wing with zero deviation. That attitude btw is what is going to get your party's ass whopped this upcoming election .
SmarterthanYou
rebel
overreaction is shutting shit down, locking the businesses down, preventing normal daily lives without knowing anything about it. I get that you, as a nazi leftist, wants that total government power to control everyone like the little coward you are, but that isn't 'freedom'.....it's tyranny.
Geeko Sportivo
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I am all for the investigations of how we can do a better job, should another deadly world wide pandemic come along. The problem with the investigation, has been the Republitards running the House investigations, and their constant blaming the shutdowns and any consequences the shutdowns caused on Democrats. When that is total BULLSHIT!
There are over 13,000 Public Schools Districts Across America, and over 33,000 private schools, in just k-12 alone, and everyone of them had their own unique set of circumstances, in which decisions were made for them to close or open by State Governors and Local City and County Governmental controls.
So, it is preposterous to blame the shutdowns on Democrats! And all of the shutdowns happened long before the 2020 election, and to blame Biden for them is TOTALLY out of line. But that has been the thrust of the Republican led House to blame him, and even Teachers Unions, OF ALL THINGS, for the shutdowns! Biden inherited the presidency with the schools shutdown already, and made a National Goal on day one, to have them all back open following the Easter Holidays, and they all were just 3 months after he took office.
So get the FUCK out of my face, you totally unreasonable finger-pointing idiot!
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The information at the time was muddled in all kinds of distortion, we had gargling bleach to wiping down groceries, my point being, when is came to children, most sided with over caution. And sure it eventually had an effect on education, but most of the resulting shortcomings can be rectified, your niece can make up for the lost time
What a crock of shit, generalizations, sweeping statements, cliches, and sophomoric abstractions amounting to nothing
Appears you missed the new virus few knew anything about other than there existed zero natural immunity nor vaccines and it spread rapidly thru social conduct, and I know, certainly remember hearing that closing down the Golden Coral took away the right and freedom of Americans to enjoy the Sunday buffet
You refused to address what I was actually talking about in my post. WHY?
Geeko Sportivo
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Perhaps to you he is, but I find him to be true to his very name- CALIFORNIA WACKO- always using this forum in making snide accusations and opinions about the Democrats, everywhere he can squeeze them in, between all the other wild and crazy TRUMPTARDIAN CONSPIRACY THEORIES your side keeps bringing to this forum EVERY SINGLE DAY!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Hindsight is always 20/20. The bottom line is this: balancing the number of lives saved against the loss of a year of education.
If the US, under Pedo Don, hadn't denied the existence of a problem, wouldn't the US have been 6 months ahead of the world instead of 6 months behind?
Once again proving you're incapable of adult conversation.
cawacko
Well-known member
What’s done is done obviously at this point but if you go back and look, when the science/data said it was safe to go back to schools with proper precaution many places chose not to. That’s just fact.
You notice this article isn’t coming the gateway pundit or breibart. This is from the New York Times. The fact that they are writing this tells it’s bad. This has had huge negative effect on kids and their growth and behavior, and will continue to do so.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
The alternative would have been much worse. The problem wasn't just a few extra dead kids, but a lot of dead parents and grandparents as the graph below indicates.
In reality, when dealing with the unknown, it's best to be cautious. If the President at the time hadn't denied the existence of a problem, the US could have gotten ahead of the problem. Time will tell, but the last I read was that over 150,000 American deaths could have been prevented had the problem been properly addressed by the administration.
Note that school age children had a 0.1% COVID death rate, which seems small, but when it's also noted that there are 26M kids age 12-17 in the US, that means 26,000 dead kids. Obviously if the schools opened earlier, that rate would have gone up a bit, but mostly it would have impacted their older relatives. https://www.statista.com/statistics/457786/number-of-children-in-the-us-by-age/
