anonymoose
Classical Liberal
I’m hoping more and more fools buy EV’s. Hopefully Newsome will eventually realize his dream to outlaw ICE vehicles in CA. As demand for petroleum and ICE vehicles go down the less expensive they become. 
Top 10 Fastest Electric Cars From 0-60 MPH. MAGA soils diapers.
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TOP
Retired Teacher
What happens when you go from 0 to 60 and hit another car?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Agreed in normal situations.
It's a problem if you're driving more than a one day drive.
Flying has become so horrific that people may need to take long car trips.
Tesla model Y battery. It takes up all of the space under the passenger compartment of the car. To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for human rights.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Recharging IS a problem. It takes too long.
No. You fall asleep because of how long you spend waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for your vehicle to get refueled.
Wrong again.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
... if you consider falling asleep while waiting for your car to refuel to be sweet.
I don't miss the trips to the electrical outlet. So?
Exactly. Who wants to waste hours upon hours of time refueling when it could be spent on something much more fun? (E.g. time fellowshipping with family, time mini-golfing, time watching a movie, etc etc)
... which cost more than gasoline and STILL take much longer to refuel than squirting some gasoline into the tank.
A blatant lie. Even "superchargers" (level 3 chargers) don't charge that fast.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
And those are NOT 1/4 mile times, they are 0-60. There's a hell of a lot of distance between hitting 60 and the end of a 1/4 mile. Then, you have to stop, and heavier cars don't stop nearly as quick.
EVs are often quicker than gasoline cars, but they're not always faster. This means that they can go from, say, 10 to 40 mph far more quickly, but that their top speeds are often lower than gas cars'.
There ain't no EV more fun to drive than this
Joey wets panties
EV's have no soul.
PS, stop posting pics of that Cobra, just sitting there it makes me drool.
TOP
Retired Teacher
ExpressLane
Verified User
And those are NOT 1/4 mile times, they are 0-60. There's a hell of a lot of distance between hitting 60 and the end of a 1/4 mile. Then, you have to stop, and heavier cars don't stop nearly as quick.
EVs are often quicker than gasoline cars, but they're not always faster. This means that they can go from, say, 10 to 40 mph far more quickly, but that their top speeds are often lower than gas cars'.
There ain't no EV more fun to drive than this
Joey wets panties
One of the most sexy cars ever built.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
And those are NOT 1/4 mile times, they are 0-60. There's a hell of a lot of distance between hitting 60 and the end of a 1/4 mile. Then, you have to stop, and heavier cars don't stop nearly as quick.
EVs are often quicker than gasoline cars, but they're not always faster. This means that they can go from, say, 10 to 40 mph far more quickly, but that their top speeds are often lower than gas cars'.
There ain't no EV more fun to drive than this
Joey wets panties
Whereas I'm seriously thinking about getting one of these to replace the Europa
There isn't an EV that will stay with that on a hairpin filled winding mountain road... 1500 lbs. of skate on rails, a quarter the weight of an EV. No EV can match it because of that alone, let alone any other qualities.
ExpressLane
Verified User
Says the guy that constantly posts childish meme of Trump. And is too childlike to debate.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Accidents happen.
Joe Capitalist
Racism is a disease
Pretty sure not the same thing as with a real car...
Why Electric Cars Are Infinitely Better Than Fuel-Powered Cars
Electric vehicles have undergone a transformative journey and are now mainstream options for drivers, thanks to advanced battery technology, rapid charging infrastructure, and EV visionaries. We are at a pivotal moment in the world of electric cars.
Electric cars offer zen-like cabin conditions, exhilarating torque, and heightened safety. They are quieter, more efficient, and have superior handling compared to gas-powered cars.
EVs are better for the planet and our wallets. They don't require costly replacements or repairs like oil changes, engine air filter replacements, and brake pad replacements. As electric vehicles become more accessible and affordable, they will soon dominate the auto market.
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In addition, electric cars aren't putting out harmful carbon emissions, and with the rapid advancement of their batteries: we're seeing solid-state and even hydrogen technology become a center point of this movement. We're in the golden era of electric driving and design, with fuel quickly becoming a thing of the past.
As we head further into the 2020s and 2030s, electric vehicles will soon become a dominating majority within the auto industry. As nearly every major car brand focuses on cleaner, emission-free driving, fuel-based design is at a standstill. What has happened within the EV market in the past decade is revolutionary, bringing high-performance electric cars to market in record time (with record sales). Companies like Tesla, Nissan, Audi, Ford, Hyundai, and countless others have changed how we see electric driving: and it's all coming to a head.
Not only are EVs better for the planet, but they're better for us and our wallets. Without having a traditional fuel-powered engine, you don't have to go for oil changes or tune-ups each year, saving people hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. On top of that, many consumers enjoy the interior volume of an electric car versus one with an engine, as EVs prove to be quieter and smoother on the road. Safety is another top priority in electric vehicles, as it holds your car together. Through cutting-edge design, we have electric supercars driving themselves, alerting owners of issues, and redefining our safety protocols on the road.
Here are some monetary savings you might have by driving electric:
Oil changes per 5,000 miles (est. $45 each) $675 (15)
Engine air filter replacements $50
New brake pads $330
New fuel filter or replacement $100
Radiator hoses/system flush $150
You can see how much this adds up while owning and driving a gas-powered car. In contrast, you would save this money by driving an EV, as they don't require these replacements or repairs. Even better: Electric vehicles also have a lower center of gravity, which improves handling, responsiveness, and safety. This can make a world of difference in inclement weather and during an accident for those behind the wheel and in the passenger seats.
Another reason electric vehicles are better than fuel-powered ones is that they'll soon be a major part of the global auto market, if not the majority. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, S&P Global Mobility forecasts electric vehicle sales in the United States could reach 40 percent of total passenger car sales by 2030. Even more hopeful projections point at 50 percent of total passenger car sales by the early 2030s, with 100 percent into 2050/2060. We're witnessing the death of fuel-powered cars, which up until recent years, were our only way of transportation.
Of course, this isn't a doomsday article meant to hate gas-powered design or manufacturing. We're all aiming toward EVs, while gas got us this far. It wouldn't be progress if humanity stayed in the same situation for eternity. EVs are the much-needed switch we and the planet need heading into the next chapter of the car industry and life as we know it. Electric cars are making incredible strides in performance, range, safety, and even price: all things that will shift the needle further in that direction. If we all had access to a $20,000-ish EV that could go 500+ miles: we'd buy it.
The more accessible these supercars become, the more we'll see them on the road. They're better in nearly every way than a gas-powered alternative, so it's not if, but when EVs take over the world
EVs Can Easily Outperform Cars With Engines
One of the more surprising details regarding EVs is that they often perform better when tested against regular gas-powered cars. For instance, EVs convert over 77 percent of the electrical energy to power at the wheels, compared to 12–30 percent from traditional vehicles. This is a staggering figure, adding to the mass-scale fight for EVs. It's also worth noting that EVs are often quicker than gas-powered vehicles, which can entice someone to purchase them.
After all, you're not waiting for an engine to rev up but rather for energy from your car's battery to kick into high gear. That is incredible, especially because zero emissions are being created while an electric car races down the highway. In contrast, a gas-powered car will generate carbon emissions during speed tests, which nobody wants at the end of the day.
Electric cars often gain speed faster than fuel-powered cars, and they do it with zero emissions. EVs convert roughly 77+ percent of electric energy to power at the wheels, versus fuel-based cars use closer to 12-30 percent.
Electric Cars Could Become Much Cheaper Than Gas-Powered Ones In The Next Decade
As batteries become longer-lasting and cheaper to manufacture, auto brands will lower their MSRPs on new EVs.
In 2023, Tesla and Ford slashed electric car prices, indicating a shift in the sector.
As we see electric cars quickly become more readily available to the masses, this also comes with the benefit of lower prices across the sector. For example, electric vehicles were once only seen as toys for wealthy drivers wanting to be a part of the future, while everyone else had to buy a hybrid. However, in recent years, brands like Chevy, Nissan, Tesla, Hyundai, Volkswagen, etc., have begun rolling out plans for $20,000-$30,000 EVs that are more suited for middle-class working consumers.
That in itself is a significant win for clean driving efforts, as one of the largest issues pressing the industry was a lack of affordable models. Additionally, total costs associated with owning an EV are expected to fall as batteries become longer-lasting: with solid-state batteries being a key indicator of cheaper manufacturing. Many automakers, including Tesla and Ford, dropped prices on their EVs in 2023.
There is power in numbers, and with EV manufacturers seeing better response as they drop prices across their lineups, this only means good things for the rest of the market. As electricity fuels us into the next decade, EVs will start popping up in record numbers we couldn't have fathomed even five or ten years ago.
TOP soils diapers
Note the common transmission replacement shops, engine replacement shops, muffler shops and so many others waiting to cheat ICE drivers. Walk through the automotive section at Target and see all the crap that fails and needs replacement.