CDC now advises people to treat COVID same as the flu and other respiratory illnesses

Doc Dutch said:
You made the effort which is a lot more than 85% of Americans. I have friends who were mustered out for medical reasons; blown knees and high blood pressure were the most common.

Thanks for serving. :flagsal: You are light years ahead of those who served longer but broke their oaths.
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Thank you for your thank you... But I really do not feel like I served served... If you know what I mean.

I really would not have commented so adamantly on most aspects of serving, but I have had a lot of real experience on the medical aspects of serving. I can speak to that.

I am a bit of an armchair general, and freely admit that I am just an armchair general. I got involved with it back when I was in JR ROTC, and have never been able to completely shake it.

The Ukrainian War is fascinating, because Ukraine is really an extension of the Northern European Plains. The same environment stretches from the Netherlands, through Germany and Poland, and into Ukraine. The Russians are using the weapons and strategies of the USSR, and the Ukrainians are testing out the weapons and strategies of NATO.

It is the great test of the war we spent half a century preparing for. The war where the USSR attacked Western Germany and tried to drive to the sea. Vietnam and Iraq were totally different environments and very different enemies. This is the sanity test to all the plans and all the weapons systems.

I am going to quit my job soon, and might take a few months off to just nerd out at being an armchair general before starting something productive again. I doubt I would be useful to the Ukrainians, but it is a fascinating thing to study.
 
Walt said:
Thank you for your thank you... But I really do not feel like I served served... If you know what I mean.

I really would not have commented so adamantly on most aspects of serving, but I have had a lot of real experience on the medical aspects of serving. I can speak to that.

I am a bit of an armchair general, and freely admit that I am just an armchair general. I got involved with it back when I was in JR ROTC, and have never been able to completely shake it.

The Ukrainian War is fascinating, because Ukraine is really an extension of the Northern European Plains. The same environment stretches from the Netherlands, through Germany and Poland, and into Ukraine. The Russians are using the weapons and strategies of the USSR, and the Ukrainians are testing out the weapons and strategies of NATO.

It is the great test of the war we spent half a century preparing for. The war where the USSR attacked Western Germany and tried to drive to the sea. Vietnam and Iraq were totally different environments and very different enemies. This is the sanity test to all the plans and all the weapons systems.

I am going to quit my job soon, and might take a few months off to just nerd out at being an armchair general before starting something productive again. I doubt I would be useful to the Ukrainians, but it is a fascinating thing to study.
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You made the effort, did your best and served honorably. Sure, I don't expect you to run around bragging about being a "vet" like some of our JPP MAGAts so often do, but you served with honor. Nothing more can be expected of you. They broke their oaths. They dishonored themselves. Fuck them.

Quit or retire? I have no idea how old you are. I recently turned 68. My military career didn't turn out as planned either. I wanted a full career but was RIF'd with 400 other Marine Corps pilots in the mid-80s. 300 of us crossdecked to the Navy where I served for another 6 years when the Cold War ended and Congress, in all their wisdom, drastically downsized the military turning "guns into butter". I went into the Naval Reserve and served another six years before retiring. If we do our best and serve honorably, I fail to see how anyone can legitimately fault us.
 
Doc Dutch said:
Quit or retire? I have no idea how old you are.
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53 years old. I want to get out of my current field and go to a similar field. I have the money to survive, the connections to thrive, and a good idea... But my old job is having trouble replacing me. As problems go, it is not a bad problem, but still a bit annoying.

So my idea would be to take a break between old job and new job, but I will probably never do it. Either I will need to switch jobs too quickly, or I will never leave the old job.

Doc Dutch said:
I recently turned 68. My military career didn't turn out as planned either. I wanted a full career but was RIF'd with 400 other Marine Corps pilots in the mid-80s. 300 of us crossdecked to the Navy where I served for another 6 years when the Cold War ended and Congress, in all their wisdom, drastically downsized the military turning "guns into butter". I went into the Naval Reserve and served another six years before retiring. If we do our best and serve honorably, I fail to see how anyone can legitimately fault us.
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Now that is real service. Thank you for your service. Being a pilot(or aviator) is dangerous even in peace.

Around the same time, I had a lot of friends who started out studying aerospace engineer during the Cold War, only to find no jobs available in the field when they graduated after the Cold War. As with any good time, it was not a good time for everyone.
 
Walt said:
53 years old. I want to get out of my current field and go to a similar field. I have the money to survive, the connections to thrive, and a good idea... But my old job is having trouble replacing me. As problems go, it is not a bad problem, but still a bit annoying.

So my idea would be to take a break between old job and new job, but I will probably never do it. Either I will need to switch jobs too quickly, or I will never leave the old job.



Now that is real service. Thank you for your service. Being a pilot(or aviator) is dangerous even in peace.

Around the same time, I had a lot of friends who started out studying aerospace engineer during the Cold War, only to find no jobs available in the field when they graduated after the Cold War. As with any good time, it was not a good time for everyone.
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Thanks. It's good to follow your passion. Life is too short not to enjoy it.

Thanks. It's a family tradition. Both my dad and brother are retired Army pilots. I'm the black sheep for being Marine Corps/Navy. There are very few dangerous aircraft...mostly dangerous pilots. LOL My dad always taught me "there are old pilots and bold pilots but there are no old, bold pilots". :)

No jobs for engineers? Ouch. I could understand post-Cold War, but during the Cold War? Was this during the wind down before the Wall fell? Timing is all luck. My dad retired after 20 from active duty, but he was Vietnam, my brother from a different mother retired after 25ish just a few years ago during the WOT. I was in the middle with the Cold War and the service change plus reserve time. Those retiring off active duty start collecting pay and medical benefits immediately, those who retire out of the Reserves, like Civil Service, don't collect until after age 60.
 
Doc Dutch said:
No jobs for engineers? Ouch. I could understand post-Cold War, but during the Cold War? Was this during the wind down before the Wall fell? Timing is all luck.
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Exactly, they entered college during the Cold War, and graduated two to four years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. It was the most bizarre thing anyone had ever seen. I had almost gone aerospace, but when I was no longer going to be in the Air Force, I decided to do Computer Engineering. It was just dumb luck.

Doc Dutch said:
Those retiring off active duty start collecting pay and medical benefits immediately, those who retire out of the Reserves, like Civil Service, don't collect until after age 60.
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That is kind of rough, because many times they will move you off active duty against your will. I guess they figure Reservists will get another job.
 
Walt said:
Exactly, they entered college during the Cold War, and graduated two to four years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. It was the most bizarre thing anyone had ever seen. I had almost gone aerospace, but when I was no longer going to be in the Air Force, I decided to do Computer Engineering. It was just dumb luck.



That is kind of rough, because many times they will move you off active duty against your will. I guess they figure Reservists will get another job.
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C'est la vie! Best laid plans of mice and men and all that. :)

That's the way it works. All or nothing. Military retirement plans are not portable like corporate 401k's and such. This is one reason why some vets move to civil service such as mail or FAA; their time counts for retirement.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You made the effort which is a lot more than 85% of Americans. I have friends who were mustered out for medical reasons; blown knees and high blood pressure were the most common.

Thanks for serving. :flagsal: You are light years ahead of those who served longer but broke their oaths.
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You never served, Sock. That's obvious. Stop talking to yourself and making up stories.
 
Doc Dutch said:
You made the effort, did your best and served honorably. Sure, I don't expect you to run around bragging about being a "vet" like some of our JPP MAGAts so often do, but you served with honor. Nothing more can be expected of you. They broke their oaths. They dishonored themselves. Fuck them.

Quit or retire? I have no idea how old you are. I recently turned 68. My military career didn't turn out as planned either. I wanted a full career but was RIF'd with 400 other Marine Corps pilots in the mid-80s. 300 of us crossdecked to the Navy where I served for another 6 years when the Cold War ended and Congress, in all their wisdom, drastically downsized the military turning "guns into butter". I went into the Naval Reserve and served another six years before retiring. If we do our best and serve honorably, I fail to see how anyone can legitimately fault us.
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You never served, Sock.
 
Into the Night said:
I don't believe you. Stop telling stories about yourself, Sock.
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If I were to make up a story for myself, it would be far more exciting and heroic. Spending 6 months watching TV on a couch waiting for appeal boards to review medical records is hardly exciting.
 
Walt said:
If I were to make up a story for myself, it would be far more exciting and heroic. Spending 6 months watching TV on a couch waiting for appeal boards to review medical records is hardly exciting.
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To a mentally ill slug like Sybil, six months on his own couch watching TV is far mor exciting than the dayroom TV he shares with others. :thup:
 
Walt said:
If I were to make up a story for myself, it would be far more exciting and heroic. Spending 6 months watching TV on a couch waiting for appeal boards to review medical records is hardly exciting.
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So your story is more exciting then the way you really spend watching TV for 6 months.
 
Cypress said:
You seem to have purposefully neglected posting the part of the article that explains why there is less of a risk now



Years ago, MAGA morons told us to not get vaccines and not to worry about COVID. If we had listened to you, vaccines and antiviral treatments would not have been developed, because MAGA morons claimed COVID was just like the common cold
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Nobody proves guys wearing panties is "normal" like you Cypress. Seriously. STFU you sperm burping fag ass democrat;
 
Into the Night said:
So your story is more exciting then the way you really spend watching TV for 6 months.
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Yes, if I had to come up with an exciting story, it would not be me spending 6 months on the couch watching TV waiting for military medical reviews. It was objectively boring.
 
Sailor said:
Nobody proves guys wearing panties is "normal" like you Cypress. Seriously. STFU you sperm burping fag ass democrat;
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^^^
Once again Sailor waves his gay flag from the closet.

Why are you hitting on Cypress, Popeye? He's straight. Why not try one of the other MAGAts in the closet?
 
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