Judge orders Trump to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, it does for any developer in NY. Since the state was not a party to any of Trump's business loans, or contracts, and suffered no loss along with none of the parties (eg., Trump and the banks) suffering any loss, what this ruling effectively does is say to any other developer If you do business in New York state, and secure loans with real estate or other property, you can be held libel by the state and penalized to the tune of potentially millions, many times over what you may have borrowed or invested, on the whim of a zealous prosecutor who has a hard on to get you.

New York, by this ruling, no longer needs show a loss or other issue with a contract between a developer and a loan source like a bank. All the state needs do now is disagree with the value a developer places on their own assets like real estate, or other real property where the value can only be estimated. This means any prosecutor in NY could potentially bring a case against any developer for almost any reason and have precedent in case law to get a judgement in their favor against said developer.

The best thing any developer in the state of NY could do following that ruling is run as fast as they can out of the state taking all their assets with them, and selling off any that they can't take along.
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As always Terry nothing you say is relevant to the NY law i have posted many times.

The law is designed to protect the integrity of the various corporate interactions that could bring harm to the State and its citizens.

If you have a Mortgage Brokerage writing all NINJA fraudulent loans, and even if not one of those loans has defaulted yet, the State of NY, thru the AG can sue you and shut you down.

You DO NOT have a defense in saying 'but all the people are paying the mortgages thus i am guilty of no crime'.

Do you understand why Terry?
 
QP! said:
The State is not fine with it. And they should not be. See my prior post.
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QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, derp, derp, derp Why is the state not fine with the fact Trump and the banks were satisified? not to mention they will continue to do business with the Trump organization.
Don't bother to answer fuckwit because this is just another in a long list of ways the democrat party is trying to stifle the opposition.
Derp, Derp, Derp!
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, it does for any developer in NY. Since the state was not a party to any of Trump's business loans, or contracts, and suffered no loss along with none of the parties (eg., Trump and the banks) suffering any loss, what this ruling effectively does is say to any other developer If you do business in New York state, and secure loans with real estate or other property, you can be held libel by the state and penalized to the tune of potentially millions, many times over what you may have borrowed or invested, on the whim of a zealous prosecutor who has a hard on to get you.

New York, by this ruling, no longer needs show a loss or other issue with a contract between a developer and a loan source like a bank. All the state needs do now is disagree with the value a developer places on their own assets like real estate, or other real property where the value can only be estimated. This means any prosecutor in NY could potentially bring a case against any developer for almost any reason and have precedent in case law to get a judgement in their favor against said developer.

The best thing any developer in the state of NY could do following that ruling is run as fast as they can out of the state taking all their assets with them, and selling off any that they can't take along.
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Bingo. New York is only destroying itself due to its TDS. New York will lose A LOT of business over this (in fact it's already happening).
 
gfm7175 said:
Wow. Just wow.

Obviously I can't help you then. Your TDS clouds all ability to reason.
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Biden is the evil one? hahaha

2016 - $25,0000,000 to resolve Trump University lawsuit.

2019 - $2,000,000 fine for using “Trump charity” money on himself.

2023 - $5,000,000 for lying about it after raping E.Jean Carrol

2024 - $38,000,000 for again lying about having raped E. Jean Carrol.

2024 - $355,000,000 for submitting fraudulent loan applications and false business documents.

This list does not include two impeachments, or however many criminal indictments from various prosecutors.

The fact that he is barred from conducting business in the State of New York. The number of bankruptcies… pending lawsuits by police officers injured on January 6, and a new lawsuit from his prostitute Stephanie Clifford, and a list from Michael Cohen.

Still feel this many people are engaged in such a conspiracy?
 
Jarod said:
NOt for what they may have borrowed or invested, only if they commit fraud in the application. If you do not lie in the application, you have nothing to worry about.

This actually helps business in NY.
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All they'd have to do is put a number / value on some piece of real estate that the prosecutor or judge disagrees with and they're found libel. That is EXACTLY what the judge and prosecutor in Trump's case did--EXACTLY.
 
Chinese Sleeper Cell said:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...rdict-new-york-business-governor-kathy-hochul


New York governor seeks to quell business owners’ fears after Trump ruling
Kathy Hochul says law-abiding businesspeople have ‘nothing to worry about’ after question on state’s commercial climate.

you people are destroying the nation with your bullshit.
:truestory:
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Or -- now hear me out -- Trump should stop breaking the law and you should stop eating his ass. Find a real hero.
 
gfm7175 said:
Bingo. New York is only destroying itself due to its TDS. New York will lose A LOT of business over this (in fact it's already happening).
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New York is trembling.

"The economy of the State of New York is reflected in its gross state product in 2022 of $2.053 trillion, ranking third in size behind the larger states of California and Texas. If New York State were an independent nation, it would rank as the 10th largest economy in the world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_New_York_(state)
 
T. A. Gardner said:
All they'd have to do is put a number / value on some piece of real estate that the prosecutor or judge disagrees with and they're found libel. That is EXACTLY what the judge and prosecutor in Trump's case did--EXACTLY.
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I didn't correct you the first time because I thought it was a typo. The word you are trying to use is "liable", not "libel".
 
Lionfish said:
QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, derp, derp, derp Why is the state not fine with the fact Trump and the banks were satisified? not to mention they will continue to do business with the Trump organization.
Don't bother to answer fuckwit because this is just another in a long list of ways the democrat party is trying to stifle the opposition.
Derp, Derp, Derp!
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Asked and answered already more than once LyingFish. Here is the last time i answered it to Terry.

QP! said:
As always Terry nothing you say is relevant to the NY law i have posted many times.

The law is designed to protect the integrity of the various corporate interactions that could bring harm to the State and its citizens.

If you have a Mortgage Brokerage writing all NINJA fraudulent loans, and even if not one of those loans has defaulted yet, the State of NY, thru the AG can sue you and shut you down.

You DO NOT have a defense in saying 'but all the people are paying the mortgages thus i am guilty of no crime'.

Do you understand why Terry?
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gfm7175 said:
Bingo. New York is only destroying itself due to its TDS. New York will lose A LOT of business over this (in fact it's already happening).
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It is not happening and no they will not.

Business people like honest markets were fraud is punished. Allowing fraud to go unpunished is what harms markets.

That is why the US generally, and its stock markets are seen as better than third world country markets because the investors have confidence that fraud will be tackled, charged and adjudicated.

So as always you Magats get things backwards claiming allowing Trump to get away with fraud would inspire more confidence in the market place when the opposite is true.

But then you are stupid.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
All they'd have to do is put a number / value on some piece of real estate that the prosecutor or judge disagrees with and they're found libel. That is EXACTLY what the judge and prosecutor in Trump's case did--EXACTLY.
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FALSE AND LIES as always Terry.

They would have to put two different numbers on two different filings of great and disparate difference in value to be found libel.

That is Trumps fraud, cited and quoted to you over and over EXACTLY .
 
QP! said:
Asked and answered already more than once LyingFish. Here is the last time i answered it to Terry.
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QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, derp, derp, derp,
Who is harmed?
You fucking moron, just admit it is nothing more that attacking someone you hate and removing them from the race.
Derp, derp, derp.
 
Lionfish said:
QPeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, derp, derp, derp,
Who is harmed?
You fucking moron, just admit it is nothing more that attacking someone you hate and removing them from the race.
Derp, derp, derp.
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NYS business market place is harmed you simple minded twit.

YOu cannot open a Mortgage Brokage tomorrow and advertise you will get everyone loans when no one else can. And that is then because you change all their info to remove anything derogatory from their file and you lie and make up assets and income for them (NINJA loans).

If you do that, and some Bank finds out based on the mortgages you submitted to them, and reports you, even before any bank has funded a penny on those fraudulent applications, YOU ARE STILL GUILTY OF FRAUD.

Can you understand that, you simpleton? The Fraud exists even if not one penny was put out. The Fraud is the documents submitted.
 
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