You believed Fauci....
No, Terry. I believed common sense, the US medical community and the world health organization. The fact you find fault with that tells me how far over the edge you have traveled.
You believed Fauci....
No, Terry. I believed common sense, the US medical community and the world health organization. The fact you find fault with that tells me how far over the edge you have traveled.
The judge relied quite heavily on the testimony of experts. The problem for Trump is the experts put on by the state were much more convincing than the "experts" presented by Trump.
The judge lays out the facts for why the state's experts were much more convincing. For instance, they used actual math to show the difference in interest over the life of a loan if the loan interest was 25 basis points higher. Trump's 'experts' admitted they didn't even look at the appraisals.
Probably nothing, perhaps a slight reduction in the fine, but no way they overturn the fraud conviction, he broke the law, committed Fraud, no one to deny that fact, all the “no one complained” bullshit is irrelevant
And appealing the case sounds easy to you, perhaps cause Trump appeals and delays everything, but he doesn’t walk free, he has to either deposit that money in an account while the appeal takes place, or, bond for it at higher rates. Either way, your Messiah ain’t happy
You do the crime, you pay the fine
No, "The ACTUAL LENDERS" (please excuse the omission of your ever present bf) do not typically use their own assessment. They rely on appraisals furnished by the borrower. That they should never have relied on data furnished by Donald Trump goes without saying.
The fraud was perpetrated on everyone that plays by the rules and every taxpayer. fuck the lenders they were not the victims of his crimes.
You are ignorant. he broke the law and a fucking bank is not the one who can determine who broke the law. Trump may have some fines reduced but he will never get the final verdict changed, he was guilty.
He did not ignore them. Trump cheated like the MFer he is. He lied to banks and the IRS with his properties varying dramatically determined by whom he was giving the info to. His evaluations were multiples in difference.
Again, for the hard headed, it doesn’t make a difference what the banks said, Trump committed fraud, he took an advantage that others didn’t have to benefit himself, Trump flat out broke the law
And again, if a person runs a stop sign and no one gets hurt, and others waiting to take their turn say they did not care, does that mean the cop can not issue the guy a ticket for breaking the law?
You don't seem to understand the basics of a commercial loan. You especially don't understand the principle of a personally guaranteed commercial loan.
This has nothing to do with the value of the property on which the loan was taken out. It has to do with personal financial statements required to be submitted annually as part of the loan agreement.
When I submit a financial statement to a bank, I don't get to decide that my 100 shares of APPLE are worth $1,000,000 anymore than I get to claim my house is now worth $10,000,000 when I bought it 5 years ago for $500,000. My home likely is worth more than the tax appraisal but it certainly isn't worth 2300% of the tax appraisal. My home also isn't suddenly 3 times its actual size.
The problem for Trump isn't that he just inflated the value a little. He made claims that were clearly false like claiming he had already built on land which was vacant and claiming he could subdivide the land into 3 times the number of lots allowed by the local authorities. That isn't just an opinion of value. That is lying about what is actually owned.
I understand that ALL REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE ARBITRARY, and are finally determined by hoiw m uch lenders will loan on them.
Everything else is bullshit.
NYC SSR better start arresting car dealers, art dealers, anyone selling anything with an arbitrary value.
Please don't tell me that you really believe bullet-proof armor is really bullet-proof, Terry. I'd have to lose all respect for you as a military man.Common sense proved to be ignoring both. Masks ended up proven ineffective. The vaccines proved ineffective. Social distancing proved ineffective. The fact that you are willing to believe "experts" unquestioningly proves you have no common sense and have already long ago gone over the lemming cliff.
No luck of the draw...you know that..
This was all carefully orchestrated...just ask 'Tish...and Al...Hand him the election...silly Dems...
Please don't tell me that you really believe bullet-proof armor is really bullet-proof, Terry. I'd have to lose all respect for you as a military man.
I understand that ALL REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE ARBITRARY, and are finally determined by hoiw m uch lenders will loan on them.
Everything else is bullshit.
NYC SSR better start arresting car dealers, art dealers, anyone selling anything with an arbitrary value.
Something you and Bill Clinton have in common; "It depends upon what the meaning if "is" is."Depends on what you're calling "bullet proof armor" doesn't it?
Bullshit. The "experts" put on by the state were morons dealing in fantasy.
The actual lenders involved said that they used THEIR OWN APPRAISALS, as does every other lender.
Your confusion about how real estate works is the same as the state's "experts".
Real estate values are NEVER FINITE. They change by the day.
Trying to get a favorable loan is not a crime anywhere, except i the NYC SSR.
I understand that ALL REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE ARBITRARY, and are finally determined by hoiw m uch lenders will loan on them.
Everything else is bullshit.
NYC SSR better start arresting car dealers, art dealers, anyone selling anything with an arbitrary value.
appraiser
The appraiser considers and compares all possible differences between the comparable properties and the subject property that could affect value. Objectively verifiable market evidence should be used to determine these items.
NOT A FUCKING JUDGE, THE STATE, OR ANYONE ELSE.