In the real world, America has one of the best economies on Earth

T. A. Gardner said:
That's your example?

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That's rhetorical...

Even there, the government has failed. The USPS is unprofitable compared to UPS, FedEx, DHL, and other package services proving my point. Government doesn't do things better.
Aside from that, postal service is hardly a "socialist" thing.
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Dear fucking idiot


The founders didn’t expect it to make money


Go read history

They also didn’t expect the post office roads to make money

They were socialist ideas shit bird


Fuck you very much
 
T. A. Gardner said:
How much better would it be if the government wasn't regulating and taxing the shit out of it?
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T. A. Gardner said:
Typical emptyheaded Leftist bullshit.
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Your post is the typical empty headed bullshit.

You have nothing to say,. that is wrong about the economy because it is soaring. So instead you just say some version of 'it could be better'.


Terry : sure you won the SuperBowl but you could have done better so you get no credit.
/TerryStupidity
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Ad hominem.

What do you expect, an article on how massive taxation of the rich doesn't work written by Karl Marx? (One of your favorite authors, I hear...)
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So are you ok with articles from Karl Marx and any extreme left wing sources as rebuttle?

You will accept them without judgment as you want people to do with wingnut rightwing sources?
 
The facts are the founders found some socialistic ideas a good fix for some of the things needed to keep us a free nation

Their ideas were a mix of everything that had come before


A hybrid designed to avoid the downfall of democracies and republics of the past suffered from

So much so that their ideas and success changed the worlds definition of Democracy


Lies can’t compare to the beautiful creation the founders invented
 
QP! said:
So are you ok with articles from Karl Marx and any extreme left wing sources as rebuttle?

You will accept them without judgment as you want people to do with wingnut rightwing sources?
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Yes, articles by Marx are fine with me, but that wasn't my point. I was using ironic sarcasm to make a point. Of course, you being a Leftist, humor goes right over your head.

I have no problem with you or anyone else, quoting TYT, Vox, Salon, The Nation, or whatever. I don't dismiss sources simply on the basis of their political positioning. Sure, I might think some of those sources are simply insane rantings from the far Left, but I will rebut them with other sources, etc., and not simply dismiss them out-of-hand with ad hominem, like evince in this thread keeps doing, as one example.
 
Nordberg said:
Taxes on the wealthy have dropped from Ikes times to now. The wealthy are being taxed at under a third of what they were. Corporate taxes have been slashed.
America's problem is the lack of revenue that those tax breaks caused.
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Taxing high incomes is a small fraction of what it was then. The country was never more prosperous.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Yep, economists do agree with me...

History has demonstrated that tax rates above 24 percent tend to result in reductions of revenue collected. Like everyone else, affluent citizens will not continue to behave the same way they did before after their taxes are raised.
https://fee.org/articles/the-roarin...,they did before after their taxes are raised.

America taxes lower- and middle-income families at a substantially lower rate than other major economies. Decades of refundable child tax credits, earned income-tax credits, increased standard deductions, and lower marginal tax rates have essentially moved half of all families off the federal income-tax rolls. America’s non-wealthy families also benefit from lower payroll-tax rates than other nations and, most important, the lack of a VAT.
https://manhattan.institute/article/the-limits-of-taxing-the-rich

No, Raising Taxes on the 1% Will Not Lead to “Surprising Amounts” of Revenue
https://taxfoundation.org/blog/no-raising-taxes-1-will-not-lead-surprising-amounts-revenue/

Lessons from history: France’s wealth tax did more harm than good
Most European countries that had wealth taxes have scrapped them over the past couple of decades
https://www.investorschronicle.co.u...-france-s-wealth-tax-did-more-harm-than-good/

If a Wealth Tax is Such a Good Idea, Why Did Europe Kill Theirs?
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/...s-such-a-good-idea-why-did-europe-kill-theirs

The rich didn't get rich by being stupid. They will react to what they perceive as unfair taxation by taking steps to avoid it. The Left doesn't get that. They think the rich will simply knuckle under, bow to their whims, and pay the tax. Nothing could be further from the truth or reality. All massive tax hikes on the rich get you is decreasing tax revenues and economic hardship.
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I am shocked that the links to the right-wing and libertarian think-tank websites oppose taxation, and that rich people and corporations want to get richer.

Next, you're going to try to convince me that there's gambling in casinos :)

Comedy gold, my friend!
 
Cypress said:
More than three years ago, Trump practically guaranteed that if Americans dared to elect Biden there would be an unprecedented and apocalyptic economic depression.
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trump is just wrong on every single thing he could be right or wrong about.
 
LurchAddams said:
I am shocked that the links to the right-wing and libertarian think-tank websites oppose taxation, and that rich people and corporations want to get richer.

Next, you're going to try to convince me that there's gambling in casinos :)

Comedy gold, my friend!
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I'm not shocked your response is ad hominem.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1758532035843641421

Why are Americans so down on the economy when official numbers say jobs, GDP, and consumer spending were holding up?

Simple: The statistics aren't designed to inform, they're designed to hide the truth.

Accounting for the games they play, joblessness is near 2008 levels, consumers are barely above water, and our productive economy is being gutted for government programs.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Mainly because we were the only major national economy that hadn't been tanked or destroyed by that thing called WW 2...
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Well, it hasn't been tanked now by WWII.

Taxes were higher on the rich back then...and we were okay. The taxes on the rich should be much higher right now.

Right now, TA, the top 10% own 66.6% of the wealth of the nation...while the bottom 50% own 2.6% of the nation's wealth. Do you honestly think that the low 50% just are lazy and do not contribute to a better degree than their share of the wealth? Do you honestly think the top 10% do so much work that they rightly own 2/3's of the wealth?

When will you become concerned about the disparity? When the top 10% own 90% of the wealth? 99%? When the top 10 people own 75% of the wealth?

When, TA?
 
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