France & Germany still DO NOT PAY their NATO obligations - a middle finger to Ukraine

archives said:
Humorous, “copy and paste’s” point gets undercut and in rebuttal he offers the same post except larger and darker, like the kid who thinks if he yells louder it makes him right
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Poor anchovies,

Only 35% of NATO Countries Meet the Group’s Defense Spending Target
 
Lionfish said:
Only 35% of NATO Countries Meet the Group’s Defense Spending Target
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That isn't part of the treaty.
The treaty says
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
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https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm

Nowhere does the treaty say, the parties to the treaty can just ignore the attack if one of the countries hasn't spent more than 2% of GDP on defense.

Keep proving you are stupid. It seems to be the only thing you can do well.
 
Nordberg said:
Other nations have sent tons of money to Ukraine. The rightys are stopping us from doing the right thing. None of those nations are refusing to pay anything. The deal is that they will spend 2 percent of GDP on their military.
America is not footing anyone's bill. There is no fund and no paying.
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America has paid more on Ukraine and on NATO than any other country. Europe needs to step up and pay their fair share.
 
Lionfish said:
Only 35% of NATO Countries Meet the Group’s Defense Spending Target
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Keep proving you are stupid. It seems to be the only thing you can do well.

Bigdog claimed that failing to meet the 2% violated the treaty. I pointed out it doesn't violate the treaty.
You seem to want to keep proving you are stupid.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Bigdog claimed that failing to meet the 2% violated the treaty. I pointed out it doesn't violate the treaty.
You seem to want to keep proving you are stupid.
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Whatever, ... good reason for the U.S. to stop providing them 3.5% of the U.S. GDP every fucking year.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:

Keep proving you are stupid. It seems to be the only thing you can do well.

Bigdog claimed that failing to meet the 2% violated the treaty. I pointed out it doesn't violate the treaty.
You seem to want to keep proving you are stupid.
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I'll play, at least until dinner.


Only 35% of NATO Countries Meet the Group’s Defense Spending Target
 
QP! said:
Take your fake binary out of here that if they do not pay to up their own defense we should then push an enemy to attack them.

Trump continues to show he will betray each and every American ideal and he hates every foundation America was built upon.
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He's trying to encourage them to pay up ... Not leave. It's called negotiations.

Unless you like getting fucked in the Ass by Euro weenies that hate Americans, and fund Russia.

I doubt Putin was waiting, first, for Trump's go ahead.
 
Bigdog said:
He's trying to encourage them to pay up ... Not leave. It's called negotiations.

Unless you like getting fucked in the Ass by Euro weenies that hate Americans, and fund Russia.

I doubt Putin was waiting, first, for Trump's go ahead.
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I guess the US needs to stop spending defense money in the Pacific since we are talking about what countries spend to defend Europe.
 
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Bigdog said:
2 greedy European economic power houses. :palm:
Why won't Europe pay for its own defense?


"Two founding states – France and Germany – both missed the mark at 1.9% and 1.57%, despite being economic leaders in the alliance."

Countries that refuse to pay up ... and demand Americans foot the bill ...
France (1.9 %)
Montenegro (1.87 %)
North Macedonia (1.87 %)
Bulgaria (1.84 %)
Croatia (1.79 %)
Albania (1.76 %)
Netherlands (1.7 %)
Norway (1.67 %)
Denmark (1.65 %)
Germany (1.57 %)
Czech Republic (1.5 %)
Portugal (1.48 %)
Italy (1.46 %)
Canada (1.38 %)
Slovenia (1.35 %)
Turkey (1.31 %)
Spain (1.26 %)
Belgium (1.26 %)

https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/13/map-...ail-reach-2-minimum-spending-budget-20269340/
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France and Germany expect America to pay for their defense AND to send our sons and daughters to die for them if need be. Smaller countries pay what they are supposed to pay and so can Germany and France.
 
Bigdog said:
2 greedy European economic power houses. :palm:
Why won't Europe pay for its own defense?


"Two founding states – France and Germany – both missed the mark at 1.9% and 1.57%, despite being economic leaders in the alliance."

Countries that refuse to pay up ... and demand Americans foot the bill ...
France (1.9 %)
Montenegro (1.87 %)
North Macedonia (1.87 %)
Bulgaria (1.84 %)
Croatia (1.79 %)
Albania (1.76 %)
Netherlands (1.7 %)
Norway (1.67 %)
Denmark (1.65 %)
Germany (1.57 %)
Czech Republic (1.5 %)
Portugal (1.48 %)
Italy (1.46 %)
Canada (1.38 %)
Slovenia (1.35 %)
Turkey (1.31 %)
Spain (1.26 %)
Belgium (1.26 %)

https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/13/map-...ail-reach-2-minimum-spending-budget-20269340/
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Agreed; Allies need to pay their dues.

OTOH, only fucking morons, traitors and Russophiles encourage Putin to attack those countries who fall short.
 
What I always find ironic is Trump asking countries to pay up, while he still owes El Paso and Arizona for police protection during his 2016 rallies.
 
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