Did Trump enjoy what was happening on 1/6?

[Dutch Uncle]

Telling that trump didn't pardon the Jan 6 crowd

Agreed. Worse, he condemned them. One of the Proud Boy leaders even spoke out against him when he did. I'm very surprised the WSEs were so lame they let Trump get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/proud-boys-mock-trump/

 

[Bigdog]

2:38 p.m.: Trump urges people to "support our Capitol police and law enforcement," and tweets that "they are truly on the side of our country. Stay peaceful!"

At 2:44 PM the insurrectionists broke through the window and Ashli Babbitt was shot. Why didn't trump jump out of his seat and scream "this has gone too far" and demand that his people go home?

Nope, not a peep out of him after seeing one of his supporters killed. From 3:15 to 4:17, not a single mention of Ashli Babbitt. All he did was continue whining that the election was stolen.

Do you chuckleheads really think he cares about you? He didn't care about a woman who got herself killed because of his lies. Wake up already!

So at 2:38, he again told them to be peaceful and respect the law. Thanks.

Again, not everyone obeyed him.

I have no idea why you hate him so much. You need to wake up.

 

[QP!]

Telling that trump didn't pardon the Jan 6 crowd

Trump was consider a bunch of pardons for Jan6th and also for his Cabinet and those like Giuliani who worked on the election subversion and ruined their lives for him.

But trump was apparently advised by his lawyer that if they were pardoned, then they could not resist testifying against Trump. One by one they would all face jail time if they lied about what they did, for Trump.

Sure some could play the 'I cannot remember' game', but that is dangerous when you have so many others pardoned who might say you were in a key meeting, or part of a key discussion, etc. There is far more risk you will be charged with that lie when it involves so many people.

And few people, even Trump diehards, who saw how Jan6th went down, and are sitting at home fearing they might be indicted after, who suddenly get a pardon, and are free of legal risk, are going to put themselves willing back in legal risk by lying. Most will grab the lifeline and just tell the truth and move on with their lives. Especially since it looked like Trump might go down Jan6th immediate after, as McCarthy and McConnell both were condemning and blaming him.


So Trump screwed them all deliberately. He knew the best chance he had for them to not point the finger at him, was if they were at similar risk, forcing them to take the 5th instead.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Trump was consider a bunch of pardons for Jan6th and also for his Cabinet and those like Giuliani who worked on the election subversion and ruined their lives for him.

But trump was apparently advised by his lawyer that if they were pardoned, then they could not resist testifying against Trump. One by one they would all face jail time if they lied about what they did, for Trump.

Sure some could play the 'I cannot remember' game', but that is dangerous when you have so many others pardoned who might say you were in a key meeting, or part of a key discussion, etc. There is far more risk you will be charged with that lie when it involves so many people.

And few people, even Trump diehards, who saw how Jan6th went down, and are sitting at home fearing they might be indicted after, who suddenly get a pardon, and are free of legal risk, are going to put themselves willing back in legal risk by lying. Most will grab the lifeline and just tell the truth and move on with their lives. Especially since it looked like Trump might go down Jan6th immediate after, as McCarthy and McConnell both were condemning and blaming him.


So Trump screwed them all deliberately. He knew the best chance he had for them to not point the finger at him, was if they were at similar risk, forcing them to take the 5th instead.

Although it may take a few years for the dust to settle and all the facts to see the light of day, but my understanding is the same as yours: Trump refused to pardon anyone, even the non-violent trespassing protestors, in order to save his own ass.

What continues to amaze me is how many MAGAts continue to support a traitorous, back-stabbing pedophile and liar.

 

[QP!]

So at 2:38, he again told them to be peaceful and respect the law. Thanks.

Again, not everyone obeyed him.

I have no idea why you hate him so much. You need to wake up.

If you go into a crowded theater and scream 'fire' falsely, causing mayhem and chaos, you do not get a pass if you can show you also said 'but walk out calmly'.

Trump and others whipped the crowd up into being a furious mob and even as he saw that furry playing out with an attack on Congress he did nothing to help and instead threw even more fuel on to the fire by saying Pence betrayed them, showing he could INSTANTLY AGAIN direct that furry and rage which switch, on his words, to a murderous desire to kill Mike Pence.

There simply is no denying Trumps impact on mob and their attack.

 

[Bigdog]

If you go into a crowded theater and scream 'fire' falsely, causing mayhem and chaos, you do not get a pass if you can show you also said 'but walk out calmly'.

That is called a "fire drill".

The rest is conspiracy theory merda.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

That is called a "fire drill".

The rest is conspiracy theory merda.

^^^
MAGAt logic at work.

Still, pup, I highly enocourage you to scream "FIRE!" in crowded movie theater, calmly walk out and tell the police you only wanted to have a "fire drill".

Seriously. You should do this. Please do this.

 

[QP!]

That is called a "fire drill".
....

Which shows exactly how the Magat brain works.

Yes you could argue it was just a 'fire drill' and think that is a valid defense, but the rest of us, seeing the mayhem and harm caused know better.

But indeed you show how you would never take responsibility for any action or words.

 

[Bigdog]

Which shows exactly how the Magat brain works.

Yes you could argue it was just a 'fire drill' and think that is a valid defense, but the rest of us, seeing the mayhem and harm caused know better.

But indeed you show how you would never take responsibility for any action or words.

Your analogy was stupid.

Some people disobeyed Pres. Trump. Period.

Your insurrection conspiracy theory is stupid.

 

[RB 60]

If you go into a crowded theater and scream 'fire' falsely, causing mayhem and chaos, you do not get a pass if you can show you also said 'but walk out calmly'.

Trump and others whipped the crowd up into being a furious mob and even as he saw that furry playing out with an attack on Congress he did nothing to help and instead threw even more fuel on to the fire by saying Pence betrayed them, showing he could INSTANTLY AGAIN direct that furry and rage which switch, on his words, to a murderous desire to kill Mike Pence.

There simply is no denying Trumps impact on mob and their attack.

If you pull a fire alarm lever expecting to delay a vote in the senate, nothing happens to you.

A couple of unorganized and unarmed idiots storm the capitol, mill around for a few hours and leave, and you people want them shot.
Yet, you allow our borders to all but be open to the trash from 20 some countries to come here by the millions.

 

[QP!]

If you pull a fire alarm lever expecting to delay a vote in the senate, nothing happens to you.

A couple of unorganized and unarmed idiots storm the capitol, mill around for a few hours and leave, and you people want them shot.
Yet, you allow our borders to all but be open to the trash from 20 some countries to come here by the millions.

Do you think anyone should take your post as anything but satire when you describe Jan6th as 2 unorganized, unarmed idiots milling around the Capital for a few hours?

Congratulations RB. You show your idiocy and that your indoctrinations is complete.

 

[RB 60]

Do you think anyone should take your post as anything but satire when you describe Jan6th as 2 unorganized, unarmed idiots milling around the Capital for a few hours?

Congratulations RB. You show your idiocy and that your indoctrinations is complete.

Where did I say two? You group the other 70 million who voted for Trump in the same group. so yeah, in comparison, that was a few.

Now, who's the indoctrinated idiot? Sure looks to be you, doesn't it.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you pull a fire alarm lever expecting to delay a vote in the senate, nothing happens to you.

A couple of unorganized and unarmed idiots storm the capitol, mill around for a few hours and leave, and you people want them shot.
Yet, you allow our borders to all but be open to the trash from 20 some countries to come here by the millions.

^^^
If the protestors were black or brown, the MAGAts would be screaming that all of them should have been shot before breaking through the police barrier.

 

[RB 60]

^^^
If the protestors were black or brown, the MAGAts would be screaming that all of them should have been shot before breaking through the police barrier.

Projection. Stupid projection at that

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Projection. Stupid projection at that

^^^
Says the MAGAt supporting the traitorous pedophile Trump instead of the sane, experienced "brown" woman.

 

[QP!]

Where did I say two? You group the other 70 million who voted for Trump in the same group. so yeah, in comparison, that was a few.

Now, who's the indoctrinated idiot? Sure looks to be you, doesn't it.

Seriously?

...

A couple of unorganized and unarmed idiots storm the capitol, mill around for a few hours and leave, and you people want them shot.
....

Read the definition here for what constitutes a "couple", RB and realize you are the indoctrinated idiot.

 

[christiefan915]

So at 2:38, he again told them to be peaceful and respect the law. Thanks.

Again, not everyone obeyed him.

I have no idea why you hate him so much. You need to wake up.

I don't know why you're ignoring the fact that Babbitt's death and all the destruction would not have happened if trump had just called off the pack when it went rogue.

 

[Bigdog]

I don't know why you're ignoring the fact that Babbitt's death and all the destruction would not have happened if trump had just called off the pack when it went rogue.

Babbitt was murdered by the State.

The violent actors did not obey Pres. Trump's words. Period.




"Ashli Babbitt's family files $30 million lawsuit over Jan. 6 ...

CBS News
Jan 5, 2024 — The family of a 35-year-old California woman who was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer during the Jan. 6 insurrection has filed a $30 ..."

 

[Nordberg]

I don't know why you're ignoring the fact that Babbitt's death and all the destruction would not have happened if trump had just called off the pack when it went rogue.

It was going what he wanted. Why stop a plan that is working? Eventually, it began to fade away. That is when he started thinking about staying out of jail for organizing an insurrection.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Do you think anyone should take your post as anything but satire when you describe Jan6th as 2 unorganized, unarmed idiots milling around the Capital for a few hours?

Congratulations RB. You show your idiocy and that your indoctrinations is complete.

IQ 60 is another MAGA moron in the cult. His post isn't just laughable.

It's downright unAmerican.

Describing Jan 6 as a couple of unorganized and unarmed idiots is like saying 9/11 was a simple plane crash.

MAGA look like fools everytime they try to gaslight Jan 6.
Thank God they were kind, or stupid enough to provide all that video evidence.