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its within biden's purview to fire homeland security heads until he gets one that will enforce laws on the books.

but biden wants massive immigration of the poor and desperate, to replace citizens who know their rights (and also may be poor and desperate).

Are you aware of the old expression 'Elections have consequences'? And do you have any idea what was meant by it?

I can concede that you Magats believe there is a way you want the border run and Biden to act.

Can you concede that Biden and the Dems have different views on how to run it and get results (ie the way Obama better results than Trump)?


The LOSER (minority) DOES NOT get to say, we will block any and all attempts of you to try to do it your way, as we disagree with it, and we will DEMAND you do it our way, and if you do not, then we will impeach you for failing.


If you do not understand why the above 'minority rule' would be stupid that can only be because you are stupid.

Biden, like Obama, gets to try his way, and if THEN if results come in that the voters do not like, they vote him out and put in the minority who suggested the other way. That is because 'Election have Consequences'.
 
I can quote whatever I think is necessary... it's fact that he's caused the Border problems and it's his responsibility to fix them... and if he can't remember what he did with the wrench then he better go looking for it... who leaves the water running for 3 years anyway? And never does a thing.. Never even goes and looks at it? Puts someone else in charge of the repair and they don't go either...smh

No you CANNOT, not if you do not want people to RIGHTLY call you a liar.


If a neighbor says "I can take your son to the State college in the next State, for you, so he will not miss the 1st day, if you loan me your car to drive him'


And you refuse to loan the person your car.

And when it comes up that 'your son never made it there in time' and you blame he neighbor telling others 'he said he could get my son there in time... why did not he not follow thru and do it', and you deliberately cut out what he said he needed, YOU ARE LYING.

It does not matter if you hold a view 'that are methods he could have used to get my son there'.


You DO NOT get to cut out his crystal clear modifier of what he said he needed simply because you hold a different opinion. Not if you want to claim any honesty.
 
Are you aware of the old expression 'Elections have consequences'? And do you have any idea what was meant by it?

I can concede that you Magats believe there is a way you want the border run and Biden to act.

Can you concede that Biden and the Dems have different views on how to run it and get results (ie the way Obama better results than Trump)?


The LOSER (minority) DOES NOT get to say, we will block any and all attempts of you to try to do it your way, as we disagree with it, and we will DEMAND you do it our way, and if you do not, then we will impeach you for failing.


If you do not understand why the above 'minority rule' would be stupid that can only be because you are stupid.

Biden, like Obama, gets to try his way, and if THEN if results come in that the voters do not like, they vote him out and put in the minority who suggested the other way. That is because 'Election have Consequences'.

yes you're a traitor.
 
No you CANNOT, not if you do not want people to RIGHTLY call you a liar.


If a neighbor says "I can take your son to the State college in the next State, for you, so he will not miss the 1st day, if you loan me your car to drive him'


And you refuse to loan the person your car.

And when it comes up that 'your son never made it there in time' and you blame he neighbor telling others 'he said he could get my son there in time... why did not he not follow thru and do it', and you deliberately cut out what he said he needed, YOU ARE LYING.

It does not matter if you hold a view 'that are methods he could have used to get my son there'.


You DO NOT get to cut out his crystal clear modifier of what he said he needed simply because you hold a different opinion. Not if you want to claim any honesty.

I can quote anything I want to and it's your right to call me anything you like as well... I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with what I post and what I think... but come on Joe created the problem and then he ignored it for 3 years and actually added to it by sending in someone even more incompetent than he to deal with things... you can't ignore a flood for 3 years... and then try to blame someone else... no one's going to buy that story and no one is...
 
No you CANNOT, not if you do not want people to RIGHTLY call you a liar.


If a neighbor says "I can take your son to the State college in the next State, for you, so he will not miss the 1st day, if you loan me your car to drive him'


And you refuse to loan the person your car.

And when it comes up that 'your son never made it there in time' and you blame he neighbor telling others 'he said he could get my son there in time... why did not he not follow thru and do it', and you deliberately cut out what he said he needed, YOU ARE LYING.

It does not matter if you hold a view 'that are methods he could have used to get my son there'.


You DO NOT get to cut out his crystal clear modifier of what he said he needed simply because you hold a different opinion. Not if you want to claim any honesty.

wow this post is stupid.
 
Are you aware of the old expression 'Elections have consequences'? And do you have any idea what was meant by it?

I can concede that you Magats believe there is a way you want the border run and Biden to act.

Can you concede that Biden and the Dems have different views on how to run it and get results (ie the way Obama better results than Trump)?


The LOSER (minority) DOES NOT get to say, we will block any and all attempts of you to try to do it your way, as we disagree with it, and we will DEMAND you do it our way, and if you do not, then we will impeach you for failing.


If you do not understand why the above 'minority rule' would be stupid that can only be because you are stupid.

Biden, like Obama, gets to try his way, and if THEN if results come in that the voters do not like, they vote him out and put in the minority who suggested the other way. That is because 'Election have Consequences'.

biden can close the border now.

you're right. he doesnt want to.

this is a different argument than you have been making the entire thread.

you have capitulated.

you lost the thread.
 
No you lied as always.

If i say, i can stop the water flooding your basement if you give me the wrench.

And you refuse to give me the wrench, and yet you tell others 'he said he could stop the water... why did not he not stop the water'.

You are LYING by not saying i said i needed the wrench, you refused to give me.

but elections have consequences so if you don't want to stop the flow it's your right to experiment with flooding the apartment.
 
You would think that an actual teacher would understand how sentence structure works, and how to quote honestly instead of lying about what was said. She did the exact same thing years ago when one of Obama's quotes was parsed to mean something totally different. Toxic insisted that he said ____ when he really said __________. Remember the "You didn't build that" nothingburger?

You know you belong to the wrong party when you have to make up lies about the opposition because yours has nothing good.

"you didn't build that" was a true sentiment of obama's.
 
I can quote anything I want to and it's your right to call me anything you like as well... I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with what I post and what I think... but come on Joe created the problem and then he ignored it for 3 years and actually added to it by sending in someone even more incompetent than he to deal with things... you can't ignore a flood for 3 years... and then try to blame someone else... no one's going to buy that story and no one is...

it is not a disagreement.


You lied.


If a coworker says to TOP "I will go get the needed thing and bring it back to the office, if i can get the keys to the company car you have".

And TOP refuses them those keys.

And then at the company meeting the boss asks 'where is the thing i asked i be here' and TOPS reply is "the coworker said he would pick it up. Why did not pick it up?" YOu are lying TOP. Full stop.

We do not get to edit core content from things others say in quotes, because we think it is unnecessary. You provide the full quote and instead point out you disagree with it. Not exclude it.
 
wow this post is stupid.

I get that Magats think that as Magats have made lying a core of their identity.

So Magats are now convincing themselves that they can selectively edit quotes and just say 'the person did say that' as defense, while never letting the person know that same person had core modifying other parts to the quote.


Person 1 : "I have enough time that i can fly to NY, and pick up the thing. if the company buys me a ticket"
Magat : "As the admin for the company I am not buying you a ticket"

At the meeting,

Boss :"Why was the thing not picked up and here?"
Magat : "Person 1 said they would fly and get it. They should have flown and got it".


Even if the Magat thinks the person should have driven to get it and that they have enough time, it is a lie (an attempt to deceive) to not include that they said 'if they get a plane ticket'. That the Magat thinks the plane ticket is unnecessary and thinks they have the time to drive, does not give them a pass.

I get Magats will never agree, as Magats live to lie.
 
it is not a disagreement.


You lied.


If a coworker says to TOP "I will go get the needed thing and bring it back to the office, if i can get the keys to the company car you have".

And TOP refuses them those keys.

And then at the company meeting the boss asks 'where is the thing i asked i be here' and TOPS reply is "the coworker said he would pick it up. Why did not pick it up?" YOu are lying TOP. Full stop.

We do not get to edit core content from things others say in quotes, because we think it is unnecessary. You provide the full quote and instead point out you disagree with it. Not exclude it.

Don't offer to do something if you can't do it on your own... especially if you're trying to resolve a situation that you created that is destroying an entire country... I didn't lie and your stories are silly... they have nothing to do with Joe Biden ruining a country and refusing to take responsibility for doing it and then blaming someone else...
 
I get that Magats think that as Magats have made lying a core of their identity.

So Magats are now convincing themselves that they can selectively edit quotes and just say 'the person did say that' as defense, while never letting the person know that same person had core modifying other parts to the quote.


Person 1 : "I have enough time that i can fly to NY, and pick up the thing. if the company buys me a ticket"
Magat : "As the admin for the company I am not buying you a ticket"

At the meeting,

Boss :"Why was the thing not picked up and here?"
Magat : "Person 1 said they would fly and get it. They should have flown and got it".


Even if the Magat thinks the person should have driven to get it and that they have enough time, it is a lie (an attempt to deceive) to not include that they said 'if they get a plane ticket'. That the Magat thinks the plane ticket is unnecessary and thinks they have the time to drive, does not give them a pass.

I get Magats will never agree, as Magats live to lie.

was hunter's laptop russian propaganda?
 
Don't offer to do something if you can't do it on your own........

What a depths of stupidity thing to say.

Person : "Sure i am happy to join you in Hawaii, as long as i can find a flight".

TOP: blames person when they check and find no flights stating 'Do not offer to join that person if you need a flight and cannot do it on your own.


Older Child : I can pick the sibling up from practice tonight as long as you parents leave me car to use.

TOP : blames Older child when younger sibling is picked up stating 'do not offer if you cannot do it on your own and need the car"



OVer and over TOP, the one thing you do, is showcase how stupid you are.

More often than not, a persons ability to do something is conditioned on them needing something to complete it.

YOur position that NO PERSON should ever say 'I can do X, as long as i get Y' and that only a person who can 'do it on their own with no outside should speak up' is just Lauren Boebert level stupidity.
 
I can quote anything I want to and it's your right to call me anything you like as well... I don't have a problem with you disagreeing with what I post and what I think... but come on Joe created the problem and then he ignored it for 3 years and actually added to it by sending in someone even more incompetent than he to deal with things... you can't ignore a flood for 3 years... and then try to blame someone else... no one's going to buy that story and no one is...

Link
 
was hunter's laptop russian propaganda?

It was tampered with by people who instead of returning the property to the actual owner they kept it and let many examine it and tamper with the contents


Your lies about what the laptop contained is Russian propaganda
 
It was tampered with by people who instead of returning the property to the actual owner they kept it and let many examine it and tamper with the contents


Your lies about what the laptop contained is Russian propaganda

this is why you're losing.

you sound like a lying retard.
:tardthoughts:
 
biden can close the border now.

you're right. he doesnt want to.

this is a different argument than you have been making the entire thread.

you have capitulated.

you lost the thread.

Then Why didn’t trump close the border?
 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy





Forensic analysis
In March 2022, The Washington Post published the findings of two forensic information analysts it had retained to examine 217 gigabytes of data provided to the paper on a hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey, who represented that its contents came from the laptop. One of the analysts characterized the data as a "disaster" from a forensics standpoint. The analysts found that people other than Hunter Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed and written files to the drive, both before and after the New York Post story.[4] In September 2020, someone created six new folders on the drive, including with the names "Biden Burisma", "Big Guy File", "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents". One of the analysts found evidence someone may have accessed the drive contents from a West Coast location days after The New York Post published their stories about the laptop.[4]

Using cryptographic signatures, one analyst verified that 1,828 of the roughly 129,000 emails on the drive came from the indicated email accounts of origin, suggesting they were authentic and had not been tampered with. The other analysis verified nearly 22,000 emails using similar methods, after overcoming technical issues the first analysis could not resolve. The analysts said emails from Burisma, where Pozharskyi was an advisor, were likely authentic but cautioned that if Burisma had been hacked, it would be possible for hackers to use stolen cryptographic signatures to forge emails that would pass as authentic. The New York Times reported in January 2020 that Russian military intelligence had hacked Burisma beginning in November 2019; a co-founder of the firm that discovered the hacking said Russians were stealing email credentials. Both analysts acknowledged that cryptographic signatures are not a perfect way to authenticate emails, as some email services do not implement the technology as rigorously as others. About 16,000 of the 22,000 emails carrying cryptographic signatures came via Google, which rigorously implements the technology. The analysts noted that cryptographic signatures can only verify that an email originated from a certain email account, but not who controlled that account; there are other means for hackers to commandeer email accounts. According to the Washington Post, "Some other emails on the drive that have been the foundation for previous news reports could not be verified because the messages lacked verifiable cryptographic signatures."[4]

Among the emails that The Washington Post was able to authenticate was the Pozharskyi email that formed the basis of the New York Post's original article. An email referencing "10 held by H for the big guy?", a possible reference to a rejected proposal to give Joe Biden a 10% share of a Chinese deal his son was negotiating, was not authenticated, though a recipient of the email publicly vouched for its authenticity.[4]

One of the analysts found that timestamps on documents and operating system indexes matched, though he noted hackers could forge timestamps in undetectable ways. The analysts also noted that repeated access to the drive resulted in logs and other files used by forensic analysts to examine system activity being deleted. Neither analyst found evidence emails or other files had been manipulated by hackers, nor could they rule out that possibility.[4][62]

In reference to a cache of emails allegedly coming from the Hunter Biden Laptop, Matt Tait, a former information security specialist for the GCHQ (UK's Government Communications Headquarters), told CyberScoop, "it is clear the cache isn't in its original form".[63][64][65]

In November 2022, CBS News published the results of a forensic analysis they commissioned of a copy of the laptop data Mac Isaac initially handed to federal investigators in 2019. The analysis, conducted by Computer Forensics Services, found data, including over 120,000 emails, "consistent with normal, everyday use of a computer", found "no evidence that the user data had been modified, fabricated or tampered with", and found no new files created on the laptop after April 2019, when Mac Isaac received the laptop. The chief technology officer of Computer Forensics Services added: "I have no doubt in my mind that this data was created by Hunter Biden, and that it came from a computer under Mr. Biden's control".[3] Also on November 21, CBS News published the first photograph of the damaged Macbook Pro, which had been provided to them by Hunter Biden's legal team.[3]

According to reports on January 16, 2024, new filings by the U.S. Department of Justice's special counsel, headed by David C. Weiss, appear to be the first public confirmation of the laptop's authenticity by the DOJ. The filings refer to the laptop connected to Hunter Biden stating, “the defendant’s Apple MacBook Pro, which he had left at a computer store.”[66]
 
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