John Fetterman: "It's time for the GOP to get their...

Did you miss his speech in South Carolina? I'm happy to find it for you...
...there's nothing in the bill though that he doesn't have now to shut it down...

No I did not miss it. I just did not misquote it and lie about like you are doing.


You left out this first part "if that bill were the law today",

When you keep saying 'Biden said in he could stop the flow today' and then you ask 'why isn't he.

As I predicted in the other thread where you spread this same lie and i quoted this speech as the one i thought you were misrepresenting, you now prove me correct.


When Biden says 'if that bill were law today, I would shut down the border' does not mean you can say he has that power without the first part of that sentence. If you are anything resembling honest.
 
And Biden could fall over dead or have ANOTHER stroke. Who are you going to pin your hopes on then ? Cackling Harris? Trump is going to be on the ballot in November and so will be the oldest person ever to run for the office of the Presidency. BTW: Biden has A Fib which is a HUGE risk for stroke and dementia.

This thread's not about Biden and the election. Private citizen trump is meddling in the work of Congress and the craven MAGAts are allowing it. You people have no shame.
 
because it's not trumps fault if agencies have gone rogue.

So you admit both Trump and Mayorkas had rogue agencies shirking their duties and say that is why Mayorkas should be impeached.

But you give Trump a pass on being impeached as you believe a POTUS simply is not smart enough or powerful enough or motivated enough, to do what you expect Mayorkas to have done?


If the Trump loving Border Patrol wants these new tools to better deal with the border issue why are you against that?
 
Biden knows they can not vote for anything regarding the border

The Republicans are getting outed and played by Biden
 
no.

because the border patrol is being used merely as functionaries to process them in.

funding that would INCREASE illegal immigration, ya dumb twat.

but thats what you want right?

you want more illegal immigration.

you're a globalist traitor.

False. Halfwit

Migrant Asylum claims ARE NOT immigration applications. And if a person is found to have made an invalid migrant claim, and sent home, then they cannot simply switch and apply for immigration to get in.

This is about people claiming Asylum, and the current US laws DEMAND they be processed and allowed to stay during that time, if they set one foot on US soil, legally or illegally, while making the claim.

Biden wants to counter that law, in the way Obama did by rapid processing and sending them home.

Magats want to keep them here and send them on buses across the country.
 
Then Biden will do what he can with Executive Orders


And when they complain they will be strangled with their own duplicity
 
No I did not miss it. I just did not misquote it and lie about like you are doing.


You left out this first part "if that bill were the law today",

When you keep saying 'Biden said in he could stop the flow today' and then you ask 'why isn't he.

As I predicted in the other thread where you spread this same lie and i quoted this speech as the one i thought you were misrepresenting, you now prove me correct.


When Biden says 'if that bill were law today, I would shut down the border' does not mean you can say he has that power without the first part of that sentence. If you are anything resembling honest.

I didn't misquote it ...that's exactly what he said... he doesn't need the bill to shut down the Border...
 
They were executive orders, and he can. There is a thread here listing 64 of the 94 executive orders he generated negating things like "Stay in Mexico" and other policies of Trump that he disliked.

Biden, in his 3 years has signed 535 immigration actions (executive orders).

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/art...tion actions,of President Donald Trump's term.

Right,

As i thought. EO's which the Magat decries the use of and sue Biden over to block constantly, and have been screaming for decades to 'fix the problem with legislation', are often tied to something specific.

So the covid related EO's for migration were ordered via court order to end.

So why now are Magats against legislation and only for EO's or the POTUS to act solo?
 
I didn't misquote it ...that's exactly what he said... he doesn't need the bill to shut down the Border...

You lied and misquoted.

The full quote is this...

"Biden Says He Would Shut Down Border ‘Right Now’ if Congress Sends Him a Deal’ if Congress Sends Him a Deal"

You said Biden said this "Biden Says He Would Shut Down Border ‘Right Now" and then you asked 'so why isn't he'.

You never provide the rest of the quote which answers your question "...if Congress sends him the deal'.
 
False. Halfwit

Migrant Asylum claims ARE NOT immigration applications. And if a person is found to have made an invalid migrant claim, and sent home, then they cannot simply switch and apply for immigration to get in.

This is about people claiming Asylum, and the current US laws DEMAND they be processed and allowed to stay during that time, if they set one foot on US soil, legally or illegally, while making the claim.

Biden wants to counter that law, in the way Obama did by rapid processing and sending them home.

Magats want to keep them here and send them on buses across the country.

stfu.

:truestory:
 
You lied and misquoted.

The full quote is this...

"Biden Says He Would Shut Down Border ‘Right Now’ if Congress Sends Him a Deal’ if Congress Sends Him a Deal"

You said Biden said this "Biden Says He Would Shut Down Border ‘Right Now" and then you asked 'so why isn't he'.

You never provide the rest of the quote which answers your question "...if Congress sends him the deal'.

he could do it now.
 
Right,

As i thought. EO's which the Magat decries the use of and sue Biden over to block constantly, and have been screaming for decades to 'fix the problem with legislation', are often tied to something specific.

So the covid related EO's for migration were ordered via court order to end.

So why now are Magats against legislation and only for EO's or the POTUS to act solo?

Well, Magats seem to be for taking positive action using the current laws to bring the flood down to a trickle before working on adding new laws. They seem to believe that deliberately breaking the system and then saying, "You need to fix it!" to folks you don't like seems to be the current "plan" and it isn't working. Even Biden, whose representatives and appointees (Mayorkas) have been telling us the "border is secure" for 3 years now, now wants you to believe he sees it is a crisis and wants to fix what he deliberately broke (over 535 executive orders just on immigration alone) and spent 3 years sending out appointees to tell you that the "border was secure".

I, personally, don't like either plan. I prefer something that favors the folks who legally entered the nation and opening that up (legal pathways to immigrate) to far more folks than ever before, but if you enter without the legal checks at any point in the border necessary to ensure we at the very least know who you are you get to go back to wherever you came from and cannot reapply. Just do it the right way. Simple. Direct. And doesn't require walls and/or for "Mexico to pay for it". Let Border Security get back to securing our border rather than just being paper pushing bureaucrats filling out entry forms and decades long waits for courts for folks entering on an other than legal path.
 
Well, Magats seem to be for taking positive action using the current laws to bring the flood down to a trickle before working on adding new laws. They seem to believe that deliberately breaking the system and then saying, "You need to fix it!" to folks you don't like seems to be the current "plan" and it isn't working. Even Biden, whose representatives and appointees (Mayorkas) have been telling us the "border is secure" for 3 years now, now wants you to believe he sees it is a crisis and wants to fix what he deliberately broke (over 535 executive orders just on immigration alone) and spent 3 years sending out appointees to tell you that the "border was secure".

I, personally, don't like either plan. I prefer something that favors the folks who legally entered the nation and opening that up (legal pathways to immigrate) to far more folks than ever before, but if you enter without the legal checks at any point in the border necessary to ensure we at the very least know who you are you get to go back to wherever you came from and cannot reapply. Just do it the right way. Simple. Direct. And doesn't require walls and/or for "Mexico to pay for it". Let Border Security get back to securing our border rather than just being paper pushing bureaucrats filling out entry forms and decades long waits for courts for folks entering on an other than legal path.

but damo.

even legal immigration suppresses the wages of american citizens.

why dont you care?

restricting and opening up immigration seem to be at odds.
 
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